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waynieZ 08-02-2016 09:46 PM

Moving along............

You certainly are, and at a good clip too!!

TomM 08-03-2016 03:38 AM

Great job as usual Ken, damned if these motors don't look like they are right at home in there....

T,

Sonar Chief 08-03-2016 08:00 AM

Looking good Ken ... question, who's intake kit are you installing?

Thanks,
Michael

kwhizz 08-03-2016 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonar Chief (Post 642534)
Looking good Ken ... question, who's intake kit are you installing?

Thanks,
Michael


Pieced together parts from Ebay............

kwhizz 08-05-2016 02:56 PM

O.k.........Update......Got the fuel line completed......new spark plug wires to clear the headers.....upper and lower Radiator hoses pieced together and installed.....and the air inlet system is completed and installed.......Steam line and heater hoses will be completed today........PCV system and Power Steering hose are about all that's left to do in the engine compartment other than wiring.....Here are some pic's

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waynieZ 08-05-2016 03:20 PM

Very Nice. The intake came out great.

kwhizz 08-05-2016 04:13 PM

I have been asked by a few people to compile a list of parts required to to a "B" body LS swap.......I'll try...............LOL.....

GM Connect and Cruise assy or equivalent ........The GM set-up consists of mostly everything needed (engine , trans, torque converter, sensors, harnesses, engine and trans controllers, O2 sensors and Bungs, Etc)

Motor Mount adaptor plates that raise the engine 5/8" to clear the cross member (made by me.....If interested PM me) generic plates won't work

Holley 302-1 Pan

Kwik Performance front drive set-up

GM starter

I like to use a 2006 GTO 140Amp alternator (jumper cable 4 pin to 2 pin) from Speartech

Classic Auto Air heat and A/C retro kit

Recommended to get a Aluminum LS Radiator assy with dual fans (your choice)

Dakota Digital VHX gauges

Dakota Digital Fan Controller

Dakota Digital OBD module to feed the gauges directly from the ECM

you will need to move your Trans Cross member frame mounts back to suit

your drive shaft will need to be shortened or made new

A new fuel system will be needed......Tanks makes an economical set-up including Tank, Fuel Pump, Fuel level sender, and filter regulator....or you can go with advanced technology using a Ricks tank set-up with a Vaporworx pump controller

New fuel lines and fittings

Probably forgot a lot but I will update as I remember

Zoomin 08-05-2016 05:43 PM

Your radiator hose doodads? Shift linkage? Credit card?

Won't ecm control fans? Headers optional?

andrewb70 08-05-2016 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoomin (Post 642692)
Your radiator hose doodads? Shift linkage? Credit card?

Won't ecm control fans? Headers optional?

I am guessing that the radiator hose doodad is there as a coupler to make a custom hose.

ECM will control the fans.

I got nothing else...

Andrew

dontlifttoshift 08-06-2016 06:03 AM

With the Dakota Digital fan controller it is way easier to run two fans with separate on/off temperatures and tie into the AC system. Since the fan controller runs off of the OBDII port (CAN) that gets a signal from the CTS anyways you have the same accuracy with more adjustability for the end user.

If you have a single, one speed fan, use the ECM and tie the trinary switch into the relay.

If you have easy access to tuning software and can add some wires to the EFI harness, use the ECM, PWM, and an AC pressure switch.

gofastwclass 08-06-2016 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dontlifttoshift (Post 642716)
If you have easy access to tuning software and can add some wires to the EFI harness, use the ECM, PWM, and an AC pressure switch.


I prefer the third option and build my cars that way. Less modules and the function is already in the PCM.

andrewb70 08-06-2016 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by gofastwclass (Post 642735)
I prefer the third option and build my cars that way. Less modules and the function is already in the PCM.

This option is discussed in great detail here:

https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=40215

Andrew

kwhizz 08-08-2016 06:25 PM

So........We did a lot of driving back and fort to the hydraulic hose shop......first to find the correct fittings.....(11/16-18 flared at the box and 16MM "O" ring on the pump) then fit the line and then Crimped....Got the pressure side installed then installed the reservoir and return lines.....added fluid and again......no leaks.....

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Then I made a mount for the GM fuse panel and got it mounted...........then installed the modules.......the mess of wires is starting to disappear.....

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kwhizz 08-13-2016 01:42 PM

Getting near the end.......Got all the Dakota Digital modules in and wired....the GM connect and cruise set-up takes about 30 minutes to hook up......LOL.....I have to install the dash assy and wire in the cooling fan relays and get the console and shifter installed......that's about it........Here's a video and it should be going for exhaust next week



http://vid13.photobucket.com/albums/...CC2E5F58AA.mp4

Zoomin 08-13-2016 03:06 PM

Couldn't tell in the video, Ken - how many times did you pump it before turning the key?

:lol:

waynieZ 08-13-2016 06:54 PM

Nice work guys it sounds good. You guys have this stuff down pat.

gofastwclass 08-14-2016 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewb70 (Post 642749)
This option is discussed in great detail here:

https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=40215

Andrew

Oh, I'm aware of that thread. I also have the software and I realize MOST people can't justify the price and learning curve. Long story short: Factory PCM's are easier, but it CAN be done on the connect and cruise PCM.
Thanks for the update on the Fusion fan controller. That is an excellent score. :)



Quote:

Originally Posted by kwhizz (Post 643419)


I love your last comment in the video. Hahaha! That is why everything I own has that family of engine. :)

kwhizz 08-14-2016 05:25 PM

Got pretty much all the Dakota Digital inside wiring finished today.......The car had a 4 speed and console in it.....Prior to bringing it over Keith covered up the hole for the shifter and bought a Shiftworks cable operated shifter assy........so....It was time to get it installed, but......it seems there are some adjustments needed to get the neutral safety switch adjusted correctly.......I'll get that set tomorrow along with getting the Gas Pedal installed..........then one step back.....found a leaky fuel line fitting at the gas tank.......and the lower dash A/C vents don't fit the under dash mounts......need to call them tomorrow and get the correct parts.........Going for the exhaust next Monday..............

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gofastwclass 08-14-2016 11:04 PM

Ken, why do you have all four lock washers between the bracket and the shift base?
Besides, aren't lock washers a bit redundant with nylock nuts?


Quote:

Originally Posted by kwhizz (Post 643513)


kwhizz 08-15-2016 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gofastwclass (Post 643541)
Ken, why do you have all four lock washers between the bracket and the shift base?
Besides, aren't lock washers a bit redundant with nylock nuts?



That's the way the instructions say to do it.......the star washers help keep the mounting pads in position.......

gofastwclass 08-15-2016 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwhizz (Post 643549)
That's the way the instructions say to do it.......the star washers help keep the mounting pads in position.......

I wondered about that. Cool. :)

bonecrrusher 08-15-2016 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwhizz (Post 642892)

Man that PS tank mounting is very trick!

Is that something that you came up with?

On my C6 Corvette it is right on top of the ABS block and is a total pain in the rear to work around!

kwhizz 08-15-2016 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bonecrrusher (Post 643582)
Man that PS tank mounting is very trick!

Is that something that you came up with?

On my C6 Corvette it is right on top of the ABS block and is a total pain in the rear to work around!


Yes.........Just a simple bar that screws into the alternator ..........then I cut off the original mounting tabs and drilled a hole in the mount .........and it screws into the bar.......the beauty is that is swings on an Arc so you have some room to hit the sweet spot !!!

kwhizz 08-16-2016 05:28 PM

Got the Trinary switch and all the A/C wiring finished today........then I moved on to the Fan Relay's.....That open area next to the Battery sure filled up fast......LOL........Done !!!........one of those stupid little things that was a little problem was the Brake Booster Vacuum line......the Power Booster had a hole size larger than most and I couldn't find a Check Valve to fit with the new sizes needed.....so....I made up a adapter and blended the large and small hoses together........Started to put the dash assy in.......I'll finish that up tomorrow and then the last thing (hopefully) to do is to drop the Gas Tank and reseal the pipe thread fittings that leak one drop at a time......Darn.......Gotta fix it....

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kwhizz 08-17-2016 04:45 PM

Pulled the gas tank out today and got the leak fixed (Teflon Tape instead of pipe joint compound......Lesson Learned-AGAIN !!!!!)......Then I finished the Dash install......Started programming the Dakota Digital system and got a few issues........I'll call them tomorrow and their Tech Support will walk me thru the programming sequence........LOL.......Also.......the neutral safety switch is fighting back.........waiting for a call from Shiftworks to resolve that issue.....

Here's a pic of the dash.........(engine off , key on, lights on)Check engine light is on because the O2 Sensors aren't installed yet..........Going for the Exhaust on Monday........

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kwhizz 08-19-2016 05:06 PM

Beater ....................

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Had to wash the Garage floor to clean up all the Dust that fell off the Beater

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GregWeld 08-20-2016 10:12 AM

Hahahahahaha I've had to do that after volunteering to help someone else...and spend the rest of he weekend cleaning the grease and crud....



Coming together pretty well Ken!

kwhizz 08-22-2016 08:49 AM

The lower seal in the power steering box is leaking........Sheesh.......First the Dust and Dirt......Now this mess to clean up.........LOL........The Beater is off to the Exhaust shop (hope they don't charge extra for cleaning up the mess ) and then tomorrow we get the A/C system charged.........Then off to Keith's house.......

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waynieZ 08-22-2016 09:33 AM

Sweet! We will definitely need a video with sound.

kwhizz 08-22-2016 05:15 PM

The Exhaust system just needs some finish welding and it is done........Going to Ricchio's tomorrow for A/C charging.......then back home to Keith's........

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DKz Garage 08-22-2016 06:46 PM

Great story on this build! Car Guys helping Car Guys........ You work fast and did a great job on the install. I'm sure the owner will love the power of the LS motor!!

kwhizz 08-24-2016 06:07 AM

Sorry I couldn't post yesterday.....had some computer issues.........Anyhow......The Exhaust system got finished and the A/C system got charged.......I was so excited to get that "Pile" out of the Garage that I forgot to take a bunch of pictures on the delivery of the car to Keith.....I had Keith keep the Hood at his house so I wouldn't have to worry about scratching it while working on the car, so.....I drove it back to his house without the hood..........(Lot's of honks from the truck drivers along the way as they could see what was powering the car).......LOL..... Gary followed me to give me a ride home.........any how.....we met Keith, Bob and Keith's wife Kathy at the house and delivered the car.......Explained a lot of the features to Keith that are now built into his "Heap".......LOL......Just glad to be able to help out a fellow Car Guy............

Here's a short Video of the drive to Keith's House

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Keith, Kathy, and Bob

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Gary with the car

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All Done......Now I can go home and get the Garage cleaned up.......LOL

GregWeld 08-24-2016 06:27 AM

Having done stuff like this before --- I know how you feel..... SO happy to have something turn out and bring so much pleasure... and so glad you did it and that it's DONE!


I always tell Gwen "never again" == and she just laughs and says - "until the next time". She's right.


Good for you Mister! :military: :military: :military: :military:

clill 08-24-2016 07:02 AM

This thread and project started July 18th.:trophy-1302:

1in1969 08-24-2016 09:46 AM

Good job Ken!

Nice flag in the garage!

Shawn

SBDave 08-24-2016 12:05 PM

Very impressed!

Zoomin 08-24-2016 04:43 PM

Ken, congrats on getting that puppy knocked out. Keith's car is up to the next level, now that you've gotten all that dust out of there! :)

Thanks for doing this thread - it's a great how-to on everything that goes into an LS conversion.

bonecrrusher 08-25-2016 04:17 PM

Nice build Ken - car looks great and that swap is clean!

Sonar Chief 08-25-2016 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bonecrrusher (Post 644431)
Nice build Ken - car looks great and that swap is clean!


X2 Great job!!!!

kwhizz 08-26-2016 04:47 AM

Thanks Guy's............


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