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Stielow 06-29-2017 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NAPA 68 (Post 661382)
Mark,

If you can elaborate (at this point), what you did for the fuel system? Additionally, does the FED fit into the subframe any better than your experiences with the LS7 / 9 combo?

Looking forward to seeing more. Always enjoyable to follow your builds.

Tim

The fuel system is fairly easy. The GM crate engine harness comes with a fuel engine pump controller. Use a Gen 5 ZL1 fuel pump in a Ricks tanks and your done.

On the FEAD we are using a Holley adaptor for the A/C. Then the DSE subframe need notched a little bit

Stielow 06-29-2017 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 661449)
The fuel system is fairly easy. The GM crate engine harness comes with a fuel engine pump controller. Use a Gen 5 ZL1 fuel pump in anRicks tanks and your done.

On the FEAD we are using a Holley adaptor for the A/C. Then the DSE subframe need notched a little bit

Quote:

Originally Posted by PTAddict (Post 661443)
Mark,

Great build again. I'm working on my own LT4 upgrade, on track for later this summer. Did you change out the supercharger for the 2017 version, or just the lid? And any hints as to what you did for that power steering pump?

Thanks, Scott

The GM crate engine is a 2016 based engine so the old bricks and lid. Once I know my power steering system works I'll post the details.

momsnova 07-05-2017 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 661448)
The LS 7 pan and the dry sump LT4 pans are very close so from that data I would say the LT4 dry sump pan will not fit the stock Fist Gen Camar subframe. But, Holley is doing a LT wet sump pan that should fit.

Mark, thanks for the info! I read the Super Chevy articles online and personally it's good to know Sled Alley, Holley and yourself are working on solutions to simplify an LT based swap. The LT-4 is hard to beat for the :G-Dub:

Stielow 08-27-2017 04:48 PM

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I finally got this car running.

The LT4 runs great. Lots of power easy to drive.

Still some issues to refine, but overall it is a great car.

Mark

Build-It-Break-it 08-27-2017 05:48 PM

Any close ups of it? Interior,engine bay,brake set up etc?

Stielow 08-29-2017 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Build-It-Break-it (Post 664710)
Any close ups of it? Interior,engine bay,brake set up etc?

http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/pro...t-1969-camaro/

http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/cha...nsion-upgrade/

http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/eng...-camaro-build/

http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/eng...-camaro-build/

http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/eng...a-1969-camaro/

preston 08-29-2017 02:29 PM

Excellent.
I love the OEM look and feel, no one does it like you.

Building this all under good patina is my dream car come true.

Appreciate all you share, even if I'm not a GM guy.

randy 08-30-2017 07:05 AM

how do you like the ultimate headers? If i ever switch i might go with them. Im using stock position mounts though and i didnt know if the steering column shaft would interfere.

YAMATHUMP 08-30-2017 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLDFLM (Post 652304)
I still want you to do a 2nd gen... :beathorse

You and me both!

Ed.Capen 08-30-2017 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 664707)
I finally got this car running.

The LT4 runs great. Lots of power easy to drive.

Still some issues to refine, but overall it is a great car.

Mark

Looking forward to seeing this on the Hall of Fame Tour Next month...
Looks to be a lot of camaro's going this year.
Goodguy Ed

clill 08-30-2017 06:57 PM

If we could just ditch Ed and Greg Weld.....

hersheys69z 08-31-2017 09:34 PM

Sema 2017
 
Will gunner or hellfire be at Sema?
Going for the first time and really want to see a stielow camaro in person.
They are such a inspiration. I love all the modern gm stuff worked into a old car.

fleet 09-01-2017 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clill (Post 664844)
If we could just ditch Ed and Greg Weld.....

https://s20.postimg.org/bef9ssizh/IMG_4778.jpg


:P

Stielow 09-01-2017 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hersheys69z (Post 664895)
Will gunner or hellfire be at Sema?
Going for the first time and really want to see a stielow camaro in person.
They are such a inspiration. I love all the modern gm stuff worked into a old car.

It will be in the Holley booth at SEMA. It smells better now that we got the 11 dead rats out of it..

GregWeld 09-01-2017 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clill (Post 664844)
If we could just ditch Ed and Greg Weld.....




I'm going to stick close to Ed - his credit card works......

Ketzer 09-01-2017 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 664899)
It will be in the Holley booth at SEMA. It smells better now that we got the 11 dead rats out of it..

The 11 that you found...

NAPA 68 09-10-2017 09:55 AM

Now that you have some track time on your car (and I suppose some street time as well)............what are your thoughts on the LT4?

I ask the question for the simple fact you have built some pretty outrageous combinations for comparison.

Additionally, what did you use for an intercooler?

Thanks,

Tim

kwhizz 09-12-2017 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 664905)
I'm going to stick close to Ed - his credit card works......






LOL..........

frankv11 09-14-2017 12:35 AM


quite a bit of info for sure, got to read it again, awesome work as always Mark....

Stielow 09-14-2017 05:29 AM

Lt4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NAPA 68 (Post 665427)
Now that you have some track time on your car (and I suppose some street time as well)............what are your thoughts on the LT4?

I ask the question for the simple fact you have built some pretty outrageous combinations for comparison.

Additionally, what did you use for an intercooler?

Thanks,

Tim

Bag for the buck the LT4 is great. I feel it makes a solid 700 HP with headers and open exhaust. For about $14k you get engine, harness and controller with a cal. To build a LS7 that makes 700 HP you will be way over that and not have a warranty. Mine also idles at 650 RPM find a LS7 that will do that.

The Thomson 427 LS9 based engine are wicked. But will run around $40K. But if you want 900 HP and 900 Ft*lb they are the best. We have ran those very hard with NO issue. But we developed that package for 10 years.

I feel the LT4 program will get stronger over the years. The LS9s were only in Corvette ZR1s for 8 years. Not a lot of cars or spare parts. The LT4 is in stock in Corvette Z06s, ZL1 Camaros, ZL1-1LE Camaros and CTS-V Caddys and will be for a while. It is also available in wet sump and dry sump. I also have the luxury of seeing the future products. So I felt it was time to jump to the new engine.

Mine is all stock and works very well. (A stock LT4 powered a 3800 lb Camaro around the Nurburgring in 7:13, it also crushed the Car and Driver's Lightning Lap times) The Camaros have way better cooling than the Corvettes.

Now the downside. The LT4 is all new and we had to prototype:

Engine mount
Headers
A/C mount
Power Steering Mount
Trans Cross member (Same as LS)

I worked with Holley on all of that so Holley will have a kit in the spring.

The rad and intercooler package is from C&R racing. Top shelf parts and people, but not cheap.

Over all this is one of my favorite builds. No painters or engine builders so no drama. My only outside shop was Sled Alley and Matt did a killer job. Best guy I have ever worked with.

We have all been there where the painter or engine builder is saying "it will be ready in 2 weeks" or "we have more time in it than we thought we would". :warning:

Mark

fleet 09-14-2017 06:57 AM

Pro-patina touring at its best!

Great info Mark. :thumbsup:

NAPA 68 10-02-2017 09:52 AM

Mark,

I cannot say I can find what rear gear you chose. Was it the 3.25 you have used before? Curious if you duplicated OE in terms of cruise RPM.

Thanks,

Tim

Haulin-A 10-09-2017 06:58 PM

Looking forward to seeing this car in person at SEMA this year. Protina

Stielow 10-23-2017 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haulin-A (Post 667054)
Looking forward to seeing this car in person at SEMA this year. Protina



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The car is all tuned up ready to go to SEMA. If your going look for it in the Holley booth then OUSCI.

We had a chance to chassis dyno the car. It made great power for a stock engine with Hooker Headers, Large inlet tube and a Cal.



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l2azorback 10-23-2017 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 665649)
Bag for the buck the LT4 is great. I feel it makes a solid 700 HP with headers and open exhaust. For about $14k you get engine, harness and controller with a cal. To build a LS7 that makes 700 HP you will be way over that and not have a warranty. Mine also idles at 650 RPM find a LS7 that will do that.

The Thomson 427 LS9 based engine are wicked. But will run around $40K. But if you want 900 HP and 900 Ft*lb they are the best. We have ran those very hard with NO issue. But we developed that package for 10 years.

I feel the LT4 program will get stronger over the years. The LS9s were only in Corvette ZR1s for 8 years. Not a lot of cars or spare parts. The LT4 is in stock in Corvette Z06s, ZL1 Camaros, ZL1-1LE Camaros and CTS-V Caddys and will be for a while. It is also available in wet sump and dry sump. I also have the luxury of seeing the future products. So I felt it was time to jump to the new engine.

Mine is all stock and works very well. (A stock LT4 powered a 3800 lb Camaro around the Nurburgring in 7:13, it also crushed the Car and Driver's Lightning Lap times) The Camaros have way better cooling than the Corvettes.

Now the downside. The LT4 is all new and we had to prototype:

Engine mount
Headers
A/C mount
Power Steering Mount
Trans Cross member (Same as LS)

I worked with Holley on all of that so Holley will have a kit in the spring.

The rad and intercooler package is from C&R racing. Top shelf parts and people, but not cheap.

Over all this is one of my favorite builds. No painters or engine builders so no drama. My only outside shop was Sled Alley and Matt did a killer job. Best guy I have ever worked with.

We have all been there where the painter or engine builder is saying "it will be ready in 2 weeks" or "we have more time in it than we thought we would". :warning:

Mark


Mark,
Did you do any tuning at all? Or just use the Connect and Cruise kit with the factory tune? I am currently working with V8 Speed and Resto on swapping my 540 BBC over to a GenV LT4 and purchased the Connect and Cruise kit. I purchased the Ultimate Headers and Drive Junky kit for the Dry Sump LT4. Awesome build!

Regards,

Larry

frankv11 10-23-2017 10:16 AM

Love al of the builds but this one is definitely my favorite 👍

JON Q 10-23-2017 02:35 PM

Hi Mark, you are not using ZR1 CC brakes? What braking system are you using, how would you compare them in stopping and weight? Gunner looks pretty awesome in original paint.

JD67SS 10-23-2017 06:16 PM

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...e9deb8f4b2.jpg[IMG]

Great pic! Love the flat hood...

JD

Stielow 10-24-2017 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NAPA 68 (Post 666598)
Mark,

I cannot say I can find what rear gear you chose. Was it the 3.25 you have used before? Curious if you duplicated OE in terms of cruise RPM.

Thanks,

Tim

I used a 3.5 rear axle gear ratio and at 80 MPH I'm at 2000 RPM in 0.5 6th gear.

1 - 5 are tight and 6th is a big overdrive.

My best mileage on the Goodguys Hall of Fame tour was 24 MPG rolling at 80.

Mark

Stielow 10-24-2017 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by l2azorback (Post 667702)
Mark,
Did you do any tuning at all? Or just use the Connect and Cruise kit with the factory tune? I am currently working with V8 Speed and Resto on swapping my 540 BBC over to a GenV LT4 and purchased the Connect and Cruise kit. I purchased the Ultimate Headers and Drive Junky kit for the Dry Sump LT4. Awesome build!

Regards,

Larry

If you follow the instructions the calibration with the kit is very good. I did a custom induction tube, swapped to tilted supercharger bricks, Did the 2017 "Big Lid" and did a PWM (Pulse Width Modulated) fan. If you stay with a 4 inch induction tube it should work great.

Mark

Stielow 10-24-2017 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD67SS (Post 667719)
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...e9deb8f4b2.jpg[IMG]



Great pic! Love the flat hood...



JD



https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...d77c6f10cc.jpg

Another cool photo by Robert McGaffin.



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nicks67ca 10-24-2017 05:11 AM

I love the sign Doc Stielow for mayor!


Quote:

Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 667737)


GregWeld 10-24-2017 06:29 AM

Having followed this car for many 100's of miles..... I came to realize that in my humble opinion -- it was way cooler in it's natural patina than the three high zoot painted cars in the group..... That's not baggin on them at all - because I've never driven a car that I liked more than HellFire... It was just that this car is such a sleeper.... and to me that has an undeniable appeal. Once again "the man" has laid down tracks for others to follow.

l2azorback 10-24-2017 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 667736)
If you follow the instructions the calibration with the kit is very good. I did a custom induction tube, swapped to tilted supercharger bricks, Did the 2017 "Big Lid" and did a PWM (Pulse Width Modulated) fan. If you stay with a 4 inch induction tube it should work great.

Mark

Mark,
Can you expand on the "Tilted" Supercharger Bricks? I've read the magazine articles on your build, but don't remember seeing this.

Regards,

Larry

Stielow 10-24-2017 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicks67ca (Post 667738)
I love the sign Doc Stielow for mayor!

That's my Dad Don Stielow and he is Mayor of my old home town, North Kansas City Missouri. He is in his second term and doing a great job.

Mark

Stielow 10-24-2017 10:29 AM

Rojewski
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 667742)
Having followed this car for many 100's of miles..... I came to realize that in my humble opinion -- it was way cooler in it's natural patina than the three high zoot painted cars in the group..... That's not baggin on them at all - because I've never driven a car that I liked more than HellFire... It was just that this car is such a sleeper.... and to me that has an undeniable appeal. Once again "the man" has laid down tracks for others to follow.

Weld

Always fun to hang out with you. I hope to be chasing your '40 next year! Thanks for the kind words.

I had a lot of fun building this car but I kind of copied Gordon's Rojewski's blue Camaro. With out doing paint and custom engine build this projects can go fairly fast.

Mark

Stielow 10-24-2017 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by l2azorback (Post 667743)
Mark,
Can you expand on the "Tilted" Supercharger Bricks? I've read the magazine articles on your build, but don't remember seeing this.

Regards,

Larry

See the attached link for photos.

https://goo.gl/images/XyZqgH

It shows the "tilted Bricks" and the bigger intercooler lid. The big bummer is you can't just buy the bricks you have to purchase a whole new blower.

Mark

JON Q 10-24-2017 12:48 PM

?????
Quote:

Originally Posted by SIXX (Post 667714)
Hi Mark, you are not using ZR1 CC brakes? What braking system are you using, how would you compare them in stopping and weight? Gunner looks pretty awesome in original paint.


GregWeld 10-24-2017 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 667755)
Weld

Always fun to hang out with you. I hope to be chasing your '40 next year! Thanks for the kind words.

I had a lot of fun building this car but I kind of copied Gordon's Rojewski's blue Camaro. With out doing paint and custom engine build this projects can go fairly fast.

Mark

LOL ---- that would take some doin' on my part!

I'm not sure the poor old '32 Sedan will ever recover..... HAHAHAHAHA. You have no idea what I just spent having the original Danville Dukes plaque repaired!

I just jacked up the crate LS3 in the '40 to a Don Hardy 550hp..... mostly in hopes that I can keep within sight of your tail lights!

Stielow 10-24-2017 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIXX (Post 667771)
?????

I used Stop Tech brakes on this car. I have used them before on Red Dehilnand they worked great. Iron rotors have more pad compounds available and do not need as much cooling as CCM. If you run CCM you NEED big cooling ducts.

The Stop Tech stuff is great. No issues. Great brake feel and they look great.

Mark


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