Yeah it escalated quickly for sure. It will be more smack talk than car related, but a lot of fun none the less. :lol:

You know what they say about excuses...:lol:

actually if you read the contract ........................:action-smiley-027:

NEWS FLASHIE THINGY

The Cortex '66 coupe will be the "model" for the '65.....






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same plan as before... LS7 and all?

that part hasn't changed

The day is still young...Bruh


:P

I'm glad you went with the 65,but why not just buy another body instead of hacking up yours?

And what purpose would that serve?

Welcome back Gregor. :bigun2: :thumbsup:

I guess in my eyes if your going to be pretty much building a car from scratch why cut up a running car?

Your changing motors,suspension,cutting things up etc etc. Your pretty much building a new car anyways?

Your Mustang just seems well sorted for what it is. To dive into it when you can start from scratch. It just seems like a waste of your current Mustang.

Not questioning your plan,just more curious as your thought on it more then anything. Either way it'll be a cool build to watch.

I live to mess up a perfectly good thing--rock on, Greg!

Do you feel a need for IRS in this new revision of 'Yeller?

isn't THAT the TRUTH!! :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea:
i think that Emoji sums it up

Title of the thread hasn't changed yet ... :goggles:

oh, and no pics so really G-Dub could be cutting up a GT40 for all we know.

Totally Fing up a really, really good car. But its his really really good car, and with the crew that is on board, it will be a really really better car. Just glad its a vintage car and not an 07 Mustang.

If it worked as good as it did on leaf springs, (and it did work), cant wait to see what they come up with. And I have a soft spot for LS7 Mustangs

BRILLIANTER!!

Greg showed he is somewhat human for about 48 hrs there....

He has been talking about flares for a few years now...and if you're going to do flares you might as well do everything else.

Don't forget Maier's Mustang. That's a seriously badass gen 1 mustang, too.

Sounds like fun, Greg. Good luck on the build.

Good question - I guess.... not really.... but I'll try to make the case for you ("you" is a group you not you personally although you asked the question it's a question many would ask).


Anyone that has ever built or bought a car to build would tell you about the issues lurking behind the pretty paint of the perfect car they bought. And then they proceed to spend budget busting amounts of money (or years of project languishing) trying to fix the rotting pile of junk....

I know exactly what the Mustang is -- have all the photos of it when it was purchased and stripped down. The car was flawless - rustless - perfection. This is a KNOWN.

Buying a Dynacornhole body is always an option -- until you get it and find out what crap they are -- and how many OTHER PARTS AND PIECES you need to make it an actual car (track or otherwise).

I have two killer - known commodity - track cars. Both have all the basic requirements and are already set up as track day cars -- One I paid $35K for - the other (the '65) I paid $40K for. So let's use that dollar figure as my base. From here - I don't have to buy trim - Lexan - hood latches - wiring - taillights - or any of the other zillion small pieces that are required. Both have full fire equipment already install - dashes and gauges - and on and on - things like fuel safe tanks and pumps and and and....

It's not the parts and pieces that cost much -- but they cost plenty when you start spending $95 an hour (or whatever) on the labor to install and plumb and wire - and hot rod... THAT and the TIME it takes -- doing nothing for me except to further delay the project and add costs.

Just taking the '65 --- the body is flawless - has shaved drip rails - perfect paint - lexan - fuel tank - lights - wiring - headliner - steering wheel and blah blah blah

Now --- it has great brakes - worth something either to give away or sell - ditto an awesome motor and trans - expensive wheels and tires that would work on any similar Mustang.... In other words - there is a possibility of recouping a little money from parts sales....

I don't have to spend time and money making stuff fit - waiting on delivery - waiting on parts that come and don't fit or are wrong - and nobody has to "source" all these little items etc. Time is money - time is time - time is labor and effort.

When I'm all done - the car will need a wrap or a SCUFF AND SHOOT -- it won't need hours of blocking and primer and blah blah blah blah.

Is budget an issue for me.... yeah - NO. Is time and effort an issue -- yes. Both together make sense.

There are several cars that we've looked at for modeling.... Maiers - (we'll most likely use the fenders or flares from his family's business


https://www.maierracing.com/


I also love the shape and look of my buddy Ron Schwarz's' Mustang (he posted above) -- but those are custom built by him - I really don't care to pee away time and money on something that doesn't make the car faster or safer.... it's a track car - not a DOOM Ridler build.... If they work - and look "decent" - then it's done. SpeedTech will have to look at it and see what works best -- "mold on" or custom flares. If it was in my shop (before cancer) I'd cut to cure... but Mikes car looks pretty bad as s -- using his mold on stuff - or their 5" flared fender set ($950 for a PAIR of fenders -- that's 10 hours of labor for a PAIR of flared fenders - pretty sure you can't cut to cure a stock fender in 10 hours!).

The build is about doing some things that I just "want" to do.... it's not about anything other than that. I want a motor that doesn't need valve lash adjustment.... or that is so snotty that it should be rebuilt every year or every other year (I've chosen to have it rebuilt it every year).... I just "want" a trick sequential tranny..... I just "want" wide by huge tires.... But the finished look is just "race car". Low - wide - mean..... it's easy to get on these cars.

It WON'T be Italian Stallion... or "Eleanor" LOL

I woulda just had the '65 sprayed in every nook and cranny with that Rick Simpson Oil instead.

Ya coulda got a whole new Stang in a few hours...and maybe even cost ya less money.


:D

Really? I was thinking bed liner.....

Yeahbutt with the car coated in Rick Simpson Oil, everybody workin' on the build would be feelin' good...all the time!

:goofy:

:snapout:

lol

Speed and aeromatics! Lol

I love being gone for a few daze to come back to this!! Entertaining Sunday morning read. Move along people, nothing to see hear.

Greg, I totally love your comment about the "cars going back for more work", as I've lost a total of 14 months in the last 2.5 years of "It'll just take 2 months", between the respray and heads n cam . Sometimes I wonder why ima car guy #carcrazy dumas.....good luck with build. I've heard good things about this Ron guy lol

Yeah ---- mine won't be a lifted truck.... Good gawd that thing is FUGLY!

Just hung up with Sieg --- and I made several points..... I live in Sun Valley -- soon to be spending months on a new boat cruising to Alaska etc.... and then wintering somewhere.... regardless - the car is in one location and I'm in "other" locations....... So ---- I don't want to have to pull the motor every season -- I want to be able to buzz into the track - change tires/wheels - pads - nut and bolt and get hammering on it.

With 335's squared -- I'll go thru less tires (maybe) than I am now with the 245's and running the way I do.... I won't have to adjust the solid lifters -- It should be faster and more of a challenge... and that's what all of us are about to begin with isn't it?? Pushing the envelope?

It's fun to work with people that are IN SYNC --- Sutton & SpeedTech.... He can design - SpeedTech are also racers - so they can design build AND drive.... which means -- you can get a race car to be a race car -- not some show car builder that's never driven on a track before. These guys understand what parts and pieces are needed - what the driver needs and all the other little details.

Plus - I like 'em.

Yep. They are. Got to spend some time with them and dr Ron in Columbus. Most likely the next mod to my Camaro (to square up too) from Speedtech NEXT year or two.
Hope you get it done Oct? Or spring fling, either way, enjoy

Fixed that for ya there.

U kold Bruh...


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I remember posting before when you were doing an update on the car about Mike running 315's f/r on his 66 and you adamantly said your not running that big of wheels and tires. Guess your plans have changed. Should be interesting to see it completed.

Oh by the way, Mike is no long affiliated with maier racing. He has his own shop in Livermore (closer to home) Mike Maier Inc.

Yes plans changed -- I didn't want to cut up the Yellow car to get that big of a tire and wheel under it -- but now I'm going to.

I know that Mike has his own shop and isn't a part of Maier Racing.

Good luck on the new build Greg! I can relate with the direction you are taking. I sold a really nice '69 Corvette original 427 numbers car because I wanted to do a flared C3. It would have been WAY less time and work to flare the car I already had, but I couldn't bring myself to do it. I'm a huge fan of flares, but the '65 Mustang is one body shape that's hard to get right with flares. The black Roadster Shop car turned out nice and there are a few others out there with more integrated flares which look 'right'. I know you're doing a race car and I'm sure you and your team will turn out something awesome. Keep us posted.

It's just a mustang, slice that POS up. :D

:lol:

Mike Maier? Who dat?:action-smiley-027:

I've got the old Maier racing flared fenders if you need them....asking 35k--or we could probably work out a trade. :hello:

I'll see you, Mike and the rest of the motley crew this weekend. :cheers:

65 Stang
 

Greg,
I like the move of doing the 65... I sometimes think
I should have kept the car I sold Chet but was thinking
why cut up a good car... after years of thinking about it
that would have been the way to go.. light car... easy to
do things...

Let the build begin

Bob