Wow! :lol:

Each time I see his picture on the catalog after reading your experience with him I think of the people in the world who tell the "I caught a fish this big..." stories.

The picture and last line are like a subliminal message of impending danger.

Wow:hairpullout:

Can't wait to see the progress here. Hopefully Blake keeps the thread updated with pics!

Damn, that trans is so bad ass!!!!!

Here’s a good question....


Who puts a 40 pound 3.5” STEEL drive shaft in a car using a 8” triple disc clutch??

Asking for a friend.






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What a fuggin mess!
I can confirm that's not 2,000* coating.
I'm really curious what the tune looks like...betting it's "lean and mean"
Kurt will probably throw half of the engine in the trash and start over.

This would not be the first time a customer of Sutton has discovered he sold them something and it was not installed/included in their "goods".... :twak:

Color me shocked....NOT.... :shakehead::shakehead::shakehead:

For those few customers of Sutton who have been defending him til the end, I don't see how they defend this kind of utter dishonestly and complete lack of integrity. Selling people something and NOT providing it is pretty damn black and white.

Good luck with that new business, Sutton...... :EmoteClueless:

I get f'in lied to constantly in the real estate business. I was telling my assistant last week that this life is pretty damn simple. TELL THE TRUTH. It will keep your ass out of countless places you don't belong.

WTF — Only “half” the engine.... I’m beginning to wonder if he can even save the block!! LOL

The entire car is a SShow..........

I shoulda just bought a HOWE....

The greatest thing I learned from 34 years of AA —— HONESTY. Plain and simple.

When I shake a mans hand - that means something - say what you’re going to do - and do what you said you were going to do. Everything goes well when that happens.




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It does say "open at your own risk"

Yeesh this is just awful.
Reminds me of the Three Stooges "We always get it right the second time"

Sooo if I was asked by your "friend". I would have told him to consider a carbon fiber driveshaft...????!!

Dynotech driveshafts pup.

It most likely would be a 40lb steel shaft with a carbon fiber wrap....secret sauce! What a dick.

Mark Williams makes the Finest drive shaft I have EVER seen. We use them Exclusively on the builds in the shop.

They are works of art almost too nice to put under a car. we use the Accubond 7075 3.5 or 4" and the one i put in my c10 was like 52" long 4" and could not have weighed 6 lbs (i am guessing) the moly yoke was just as heavy and get this the balance weight.............. was a 10-32 button head bolt!!!

They also make Carbon Fiber ( I have not seen one but can imagine how nice they are) but say that they would normally recommend the 7075. this is prostock quality stuff

I’m only spending 10% of what it cost to build TUX.... so that’s probably why I got such a quality build from the douche nozzle....

LOL

Sorry Stuart! Couldn’t resist! LOL

Lol. All good buddy. Speed tech will get the POS turned around.

I think the bottom line for me is who would build something in that condition for a great friend and guy, and with the dough to be a great ally. Mind blowing.

Sauced!
 

Sorry to see the "sauce" turned out even worse than imagined my friend!

Maybe when Blake and his guys are done with the Dirt Missile we can ship them the F!r'd-bird :waveflag:

Keep digging and sharing pics of the quality workmanship you paid for buddy... it'll make the light at the end of the tunnel even brighter when you arrive and can drive this thing!

SpeedTech has a pretty nifty fix for the front “folding taco” lower control arms....

I’ll post up some pics when the work is done and I get pics that show what they’ve come up with.

Gotta love it when a good shop does good things!!

Hey Greg, maybe you know or Blake. What was the purpose of the independent links? How does it differ than having a one piece lower?
Seems a simple tube tying the two links together would solve the issue, but there must be a reason they don't?

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Maybe Sutton ISN’T a suspension designer after all..... LOL

The way it is set up when you adjust the caster by lengthening the rear bent tube it pivots on the joint that is out at the ball joint so it needs to be independent or it will just bind.

Greg...dude. I’m shocked about two things. First, that Sauceboy is still pimping his wares...and, two...how much junk he installed in your track Stang. My mind goes to “what the hell do you do to someone who won’t pay, who you don’t like?, much less a dude like Weld who bent over backwards”

Dayuuum

I’m the idiot —- I trusted him......

Gregg, as long as we are musing, I was putting my shirt on this morning. (Hey it's still a comfortable shirt, and I definitely can't wear it in public anymore) and something struck my funny bone.

How can one have a book tour without ever publishing a book?

It (the non book) must have been being optimized!! The PRE book tour! Yeah that’s it....

You mean I'm not getting my book?

Now I'm pissed! :sieg:

That sucks, you could have used it for kindling to get the fireplace started. :secret:

Maybe he spilled all of the secret sauce he was was always talking about on the rough draft, and the publisher walked...

agreed

And the reason is?? Pick one!!

1 - I’m busy

2 - I’m on another call let me get back to you

3 - I’m moving

4 - I’m groving

5 - I’m working on it

6 - I’ll have it just as soon as I finish this next project

7 - I’m making it up

8 - It’s being Optimized

9 - Shhhhh Secret Sauce

10 - It’s Weld’s fault

Its #10 :bitchslap:

Greg-Good to see that you are getting the race car done right. Hope to see you once the family is healthy !:thumbsup:

No but there are probably a sh!t load of 2" thick Summit Racing wannabe catalogs available ! :computer:

Greg I think we both know this just doesn't exist anymore ! I'm never accepting a hand shake ever again!:rules:

There are a few honest people in the world whose hand shake is still a good thing. The problem is finding two of them to make the deal who haven't been jaded. Like chivalry, the handshake deal isn't quite dead yet - but it is on life support. :(

I was able to get a copy of the email Ron sent out, and thought I would share it...with the appropriate translation.



I'm excited to announce I'm going to continue my business on a smaller scale, offering tech services & a full line of chassis, suspension & brakes.

Because the "larger" scale business is in bankruptcy

It will be just me. So I will be working with a smaller group of clients I chose to work with. Those of you that have worked with me for a few years, know I can be slow to respond as I get buried with projects. I'm going to take on less projects & work on improving my response time, but it still can take a week or so sometimes. Please be patient with me. If you need quicker responses, I'm probably not a good fit.

People just beating down the door to work with you, I bet. So if your lucky enough to be "chosen" by Ron, you'll be rewarded with one week response times when your issue comes up with his stuff. Wow, sounds great, sign me up

I'm not "open for business" yet. I still have to move & set up my inventory, as well as re-setup credit card processing. It will probably be the 2nd week of December before I'm "up & running".

Take this as he hasn't finished with the bankruptcy on the previous business. He got paid for parts he was drop shipping, but is not paying the vendors for the products he sold, instead filing bankruptcy. Needs to set up credit card processing in the new business name and start this all over again...

7 Key things coming:
1. I will be running "Holiday specials" in December & January. I'll email you once I'm "open for business" with what they are.

Will be from vendors he actually paid


2. No Workshop tour, trade shows or track displays. I hated being away from my family 12 times a year, so I'm eliminating those.

His sponsors paid him to maintain his sticky forums and to do the workshop. No more sponsors, means no more workshop, trade shows, track displays. Yeah, this was his decision...

3. I am launching my own blog & forum website where you can learn & ask tech questions online. I'll email you when it is "live."

He was removed as a forum sponsor by LateralG and Pro-Touring. Because he can no longer sell on these sites or get paid to maintain his forum stickies, he will just make his own. What a guy, just giving back...

4. Mid-January, I will update my online catalog to show we no longer sell engines or turn key cars. But we will continue to sell rolling chassis, build-your-own Track-Warriors, Clips, etc. Otherwise, my entire product line will be available.

This means because he didn't pay SDPC Raceshop for previous engines, had engines built for customers without the parts that were spec'd and paid for, no one will build or sell him engines. As to the no longer selling turn key cars, well, kinda built only one and it was a disaster.

5. I am adding a new line of suspension packages I call AutoX-Star, as well as a lower cost weld-on Track-Warrior front clip package.

This means his Howe copy stuff will only be twice as expensive than from other vendors, instead of three times more.

6. Also in the updated catalog will be a lot of new trick parts for building up your muscle car with factory frames & clips.

Brought to you by the same fab shop that built Greg Welds Dirt Missile...

7. I will be adding a ton of "Tech-Helpers" & better instructions to help with your build.

But do "tech-helpers" and instructions help when you screwed up the design originally. No amount of instructions or tech helpers would have helped with the mistakes you made on my parts


I hope you & your family have a wonderful Thanksgiving. Best wishes !!!

Ron Sutton