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Steve68 08-20-2023 10:43 AM

10lbs in the 1/2 bag,

Those are tight cars,

ProTouring442 08-23-2023 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhutton (Post 723861)
No fan shroud and only one fan? I hope it’s something that pulls a lot of air. Honestly I don’t see that being an effective cooling strategy.

Don

Yeah, those little fans don't pull that much. I agree wholeheartedly.

kwhizz 08-24-2023 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhutton (Post 723861)
No fan shroud and only one fan? I hope it’s something that pulls a lot of air. Honestly I don’t see that being an effective cooling strategy.

Don


I didn't have any room to do anything else ........The Holley power steering pump sticks out 2.5" and took away any room left for dual fans..... I know that could be a problem ...The fan that I put in is a 16" fan...the car is going to the exhaust shop next Monday and after that I will be able to drive the car and see what the next issues are......A shroud will definitely be in the future......Got my fingers crossed....

Ken

kwhizz 08-25-2023 04:03 PM

Good and another minor issue today.......Again, the car is going to the exhaust shop on Monday....I put another 5 gallons of 93 Octane in the tank and started the car and let it idle for about a 1/2 hour....Temp went up to 195 and the 16" Spal fan kicked on.....The temp came right down to 185 and stayed there.....I'll have to check the fan settings on the Dakota Digital Fan controller......But the car didn't get hot......Good thing....But....The alternator worked perfectly on the initial start-up......But now it won't charge......The Alternator body is grounded correctly so I now have something to occupy my time tomorrow.... LOL....Always something !!!!!

Ken

syborg tt 09-01-2023 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwhizz (Post 723872)
Good and another minor issue today.......Again, the car is going to the exhaust shop on Monday....I put another 5 gallons of 93 Octane in the tank and started the car and let it idle for about a 1/2 hour....Temp went up to 195 and the 16" Spal fan kicked on.....The temp came right down to 185 and stayed there.....I'll have to check the fan settings on the Dakota Digital Fan controller......But the car didn't get hot......Good thing....But....The alternator worked perfectly on the initial start-up......But now it won't charge......The Alternator body is grounded correctly so I now have something to occupy my time tomorrow.... LOL....Always something !!!!!

Ken

Ken where you able to figure this out ??

kwhizz 09-02-2023 04:11 AM

The Holley alternator comes with a single wire harness..... After failing to get it to work I called Holley and they think the harness (that has a resistor wire in it to bring the voltage down to 7.8 volts) is bad.......a new one is on it's way....Hopefully that will solve the problem....

kwhizz 09-03-2023 05:54 AM

A little more to the story .........Last week when I took the car out for a ride to check out the cooling system and any other problems that might pop up....Remember that the Alternator wasn't working so I had the battery fully charged and I wasn't going very far...So, after driving the car a couple of miles in traffic everything was good except for the Alternator, as I was heading home all of a sudden the check engine light came on.... Now what.....I was almost home so I pulled the car in the garage and shut it off....I went back after about a 1/2 hour and started it up to see what was going on..... The check engine light was still on and the Volt meter was just above 10 volts and as I looked at the oil pressure gauge in the Dakota Digital display the oil pressure dropped to zero.....I shut it off and was freaking out.....A couple minutes later I started it again and the gauge showed "0" oil pressure.... At that point I had it and went in and didn't want anything to do with cars....Because it was a brand new engine under Warranty I called the GM tech line the next day and I was told to take the car to a local dealership and they might decide to get involved.....but because it was a old car they had no obligation to get involved.....I could see where this was going.....So, that night I was thinking about how do I figure out exactly what was going on.....So I went out and bought a manual Oil Pressure gauge and hooked it up.....Hit the Key and Boom...60 lbs pressure.....Hummmm!!!......Shut it off and put the Battery charger on....Let it charge to it was full and I disconnected the battery cables.......Hooked them back up again and started the car and the check engine light was off and the oil pressue gauge showed the same pressure as the manual gauge.....Hummm!!!.....Then it dawns on me that the problems all started because of the low voltage situation that happened when I was driving the car.......Thru a fault into the system.....I'm still waiting for the new harness to arrive from Holley to get the Alternator working...... But... we had a big car show in Kenosha and my grandson wanted to drive his car there.......So I fully charged the battery and took my fully charged Battery Jumper and hooked it up to the battery in the trunk of the car....Even though the show was only a couple of miles away he basically now had two batteries supplying power to is car.....It never ends with this car stuff......Here's a picture of the car at the showhttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/xjc0zR.jpg

camcojb 09-03-2023 08:59 AM

Love that car!

kwhizz 09-12-2023 01:36 PM

Finally got the new harness from Holley......Before I put it in I took the Alternator back to the Alternator shop to be checked out again....when he put it on the test rig and hooked it up with a standard 4 pin plug everything checked out O K except he said the red light didn't come on before he started the test......I asked what red light, he replied that it was the red light in the dash cluster that turns off when the alternator starts charging and if it quits working in a normal dash the light would come on and let you know it wasn't charging.......After thinking about it with my limited knowledge about how these things work I thought that maybe there was a problem with internal regulator in the alternator.......So... When I re-installed the alternator and put in the new harness and it still didn't charge.........I called Holley and asked if I could order a new regulator just to see if that was the issue......I was told they don't sell replacement parts......So.... I ordered a new Alternator.....Should be here tomorrow...Just want the problem to go away as I am sick of this simple problem that is so complicated..Got my fingers crossed

ScotI 09-12-2023 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kwhizz (Post 724050)
Finally got the new harness from Holley......Before I put it in I took the Alternator back to the Alternator shop to be checked out again....when he put it on the test rig and hooked it up with a standard 4 pin plug everything checked out O K except he said the red light didn't come on before he started the test......I asked what red light, he replied that it was the red light in the dash cluster that turns off when the alternator starts charging and if it quits working in a normal dash the light would come on and let you know it wasn't charging.......After thinking about it with my limited knowledge about how these things work I thought that maybe there was a problem with internal regulator in the alternator.......So... When I re-installed the alternator and put in the new harness and it still didn't charge.........I called Holley and asked if I could order a new regulator just to see if that was the issue......I was told they don't sell replacement parts......So.... I ordered a new Alternator.....Should be here tomorrow...Just want the problem to go away as I am sick of this simple problem that is so complicated..Got my fingers crossed

Is the Holley stuff proprietary & not GM late model based so you could use a local parts store alternator or regulator?

kwhizz 09-13-2023 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ScotI (Post 724051)
Is the Holley stuff proprietary & not GM late model based so you could use a local parts store alternator or regulator?

I don't know, but I'm going to go back to the alternator shop today and have him take it apart and see.......If he can use one off the shelf and it works I will send the new one back.......

With all the issues I had with this swap and this simple issue (which should be a Non-Issue) ended up being the biggest and most time consuming problem...

dhutton 09-13-2023 05:56 AM

Are you referring to the Holley alternator harness that is a single yellow wire? It’s just a simple 270 ohm resistor if it is. The other end should be connected to switched 12 volts. You can test the harness with an ohmmeter. It should read 270 ohms between the two ends of the yellow wire.

Don

kwhizz 09-13-2023 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhutton (Post 724053)
Are you referring to the Holley alternator harness that is a single yellow wire? It’s just a simple 270 ohm resistor if it is. The other end should be connected to switched 12 volts. You can test the harness with an ohmmeter. It should read 270 ohms between the two ends of the yellow wire.

Don

Finally figured it out.....Took the Alternator to the shop again along with the Holley harness ........ he used the Holley harness added 12 volt power to the harness......put the alternator to the test and Bingo 15 volts...Again he asked me how I had it wired up......told him keyed 12 volt power right into the harness...With the key on the connection check 12 volts into the harness.....So...He tells to check everything in the failed condition......Checked again (12 Volts) and started the car.....No charging so I check the voltage at the harness connection and it said "0" volts......ended up the wire I tied into had 12 volts power till the engine started then it dropped power......Don't know how or why......I changed to a different keyed power source and started the car and Bingo....15 volts.....everything is working perfectly now.......Sheesh !!!!!!!.... Drove the car about 50 miles and temp stayed at 185 and alternator charged perfectly......This Car stuff is hard sometimes........LOL

camcojb 09-13-2023 05:07 PM

:thumbsup:

dhutton 09-14-2023 04:43 AM

For future reference any pink wire will be ignition switched 12 volts.

Don

Cramer4918 09-14-2023 05:23 PM

I’m glad you were able to get it figured out. It always seems like the small things in the end that take the most time and give the most frustration.

I am wiring mine up following the info from Dirty Dingo https://www.dirtydingo.com/shop/mobi...path=4&pID=108

I bought a 4-wire harness and am using the C & D wires since I do not have a warning lamp. I also want it to sense the draw when my fans kick on.

How does your ride feel with the new setup?

kwhizz 09-15-2023 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cramer4918 (Post 724070)
I’m glad you were able to get it figured out. It always seems like the small things in the end that take the most time and give the most frustration.

I am wiring mine up following the info from Dirty Dingo https://www.dirtydingo.com/shop/mobi...path=4&pID=108

I bought a 4-wire harness and am using the C & D wires since I do not have a warning lamp. I also want it to sense the draw when my fans kick on.

How does your ride feel with the new setup?


Insane.......More than enough power for a street car.......Yet, keep your foot out of it and it rides and drives very good !!!!!!

Ken

Cramer4918 09-15-2023 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwhizz (Post 724075)
Insane.......More than enough power for a street car.......Yet, keep your foot out of it and it rides and drives very good !!!!!!

Ken

Sweet!! Just how it should be! Very happy for you! :thumbsup:

kwhizz 05-24-2024 04:26 AM

Update.......No pictures but everything is finished......A/C charged and works perfectly.......Had a couple water leaks, all fixed.........then the car went for Tuning........Larry at ASSC did a great job.......he had some issues that he resolved getting the 4L70E trans computer and ECM to work together......The biggest issue we had is when driving the car normal everything is perfect.....But.....when he got the car on the Dyno, and put it under load.....the 2 small intercoolers (all I could fit in the space available) weren't enough to keep the AIT under control and the ECM pulled timing from the engine due to the water getting hot..........even with that the car made 544H.P. at the tires.....Since it's just going to be a street car I think it will be fine the way it is........my only other option is to put another intercooler under the car with a fan........

Ken

camcojb 05-24-2024 08:43 AM

:thumbsup:

kwhizz 05-31-2024 01:28 PM

Pulled into the parking lot at the shop today and seen this beater in the lot.....It gets driven as it should......Runs and drives great......


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/8HrlmN.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/jaZWoa.jpg

WSSix 05-31-2024 06:02 PM

It's a great looking car!


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