Funny that guy is alway's at local cruise night. He even has a flat screen tv on the hood or is it a bonnet ??

Awsome car Bob, good luck with the sale. Any plans for what you are going to build next?

David

Just to reinterate some of what has already been said by Steve R and others.


Did you read this thread??
https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=6111
One, the car stacked up pretty well against the competition at that event,
Two, he DID actually put it on the track, both there and here. Sadly, the output shaft broke on the dragstrip so no autocross the next day. However, it was brought here to run and be beat on.
Three, I followed the car for three days on the Power Tour and watched it run all day long, all speeds and all conditions, including rain and do fine, then go to Indy Goodguys that weekend and do fine there.
Four, it ran the Autocross in Nashville and came in second there.
Five, did I forget to mention it DID win SMOTY?
Six, Chip Foose pick of show at Chip's deal at Year One earlier this year.
This car has been all over the map this year, will be at the Playboy mansion later this month, then at SEMA and who knows where else before it goes to BJ. I am not sure how much more it needs to prove to Bob, and since it is his dime, I doubt he cares what anyone else thinks. Like everyone else, he has been there done that now, and I am sure already planning the next car. Bob has no problem telling you he can ONLY have one million dollar car at the time, however, how many can say that?
One other thing, Cody, he does have the full race deal for the car, and has changed all the windows, etc out more than once. He also has a spare frontend (value 100K) just in case he breaks the c/f front end. So the new owner will not only get the Cuda but will need another trailer for all the spare parts.

I am not sure about the 180 speed but I KNOW it has been 160 (on the interstate) :yes:

oh snap! That's the flux capacitor

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how do we get tickets to see the girls i mean car at the Playboy Mansion

Totally hypothetical since I haven't heard anything about the other car being for sale:

I wonder what the final price difference might be between Johnsons Cuda and Poteet's Barracuda, given that Poteet's car actually did make it to the competitive event that it was ostensibly built for, ran, has a time slip and a world record.

I have never paid much attention to B-J. How do cars with competitive histories or world record holders fare against show cars/street cars?

The Cuda is a very cool car and has taken home some awesome awards. I hope Bob sells the car for a price he is happy with.

If Bob wants to drive a 750K car like he stole it then go right ahead. I just hate when people equate money with reality. If the car was worth 50K then people would say nothing about how it was driven. People should not be amazed when cars of high investment get driven and should not judge them as better or worse for it. Some people would probably have a cow thrashing a 100K camaro also. The Mule is not cheap and it also has had some fun miles on it.

Build what you like and enjoy it, SEMA soon baby.

You are absolutely correct Stuart. The mule is not the only car Charley owns and enjoys either. Car art is ok for some I guess, but I love it when people thrash their stuff whether it cost $10K or $1M. Of course everytime the mule is out on the track, it gets the same controversy. "Why didn't it do this" and "Why didn't it make that hp......" blah blah blah. Instead of people just "getting it" and understanding that the owner has nothing to prove to anyone but himself. The mule has done what now? 4 complete Power Tours? yet some still want to know why it will not run 9sec quarter mile times on street tires, 1.5g on a skidpad and get 50mph. :willy:

Don't be dragging the Mule into this discussion. The Mule is low buck compared to Bob's Cuda.......

But it is so cool. It inspired me when it first came out.

https://www.security-order.com/mcg/playboy.html

It drove an earlier auto-x event.. I'm sure I saw the video. It did not drive the last one at PF since it broke on Saturday..

SEMA has a few playmates walking around also.

750 for a ticket.

Only $750 a ticket to hang out with Bob. I would be there if I wasn't under the SEMA gun.

Bob should just sell it to Hef and bypass BJ!!

I personally think that you do what you want with your car because its yours and no one elses. Its easy to ridicule someone when its not your hard earned money OR time and effort.

On the other hand, when the Cuda was being finished up last year. I heard a lot of talk about the car being built for competition and doing the 0-200-0, Road racing and other stuff. That is why I mentioned having all that extra stuff, I was told that it was going to be swapped out for real duty. SO, you kinda open yourself up to gossip and opinions especially on the internet when you make plans like that. Especially when people are calling it "the best muscle car ever built".

I have my own opinions on it, but hey its not my car. Bob has all the right to sellt the car, and who can reall blame him? In the end its all really just for fun. Sounds like he had his fun............................................... .................................................. ....fixing it :wow: :willy:

we should start a contest on what the car will sell for at BJ.
I don't think it will hit $750k

they have cut the price to $500.00...i've got an extra ticket

"I suspect those numbers are more important to keyboard heroes, mathematicians and data collectors..."

There are plenty of those around here.

I bet $550,000.

:hail: Now there's a quote that bears repeating. :thumbsup:

Sorry CHarley, did not mean to "drag" the mule into the frey, it was just a good example of what I was saying, that and it is still out of the price reach of most of us here. :yes:
It might as well be the cuda as far as my check book is concerned. :lol:

i've been tied up with my daughter visiting and taking care of my elderly mother and father...The Cuda broke the output shaft on the trans, which attaches to the transaxle..it tore both all to pieces..breaking the rear end case etc. Rockland has a new heavier duty output shaft they are putting in a new transmission with the G-Force gears etc in it...building a new rear end with a new case etc..we have a carbon on carbon 3 disc clutch going in it and Center Force is building us a new flywheel for it. Bilstein is changing the valving on the shocks and we're increasing the rear spring rate to stop the wheel hop. The independent rears are prone to the hop and it just tears the hell out of them. All the gears are out being rimmed and the trans/and rear will ship out Tues. or Wed from Rockland. I'm more than disappointed that we didn't make Maxton. We've built all the race set-up stuff for it and haven't used it. Scott Pruett figured out what was making it push so hard..his engineer and he were discussing what it was doing and they concluded that the posi unit was locking up under power and the inside tire was trying to turn at the same rate as the outside tire thus making it want to go straight. I called Rockland when we got home, and they told me to put some posi additive in it..We had been told by Amsoil not to put any in it..that their formulation already had some in it. I called them to see what Amsoil recommended. They said to go and put some in it that it wouldn't hurt anything. We never got to use it...broke it on the drag strip before we could put it in the turns. Scott said it would be turning in like crazy, then he would hit the throttle and it would immediately go straight so we were looking forward to see how it responded. People are wondering what i'm going to build. I saw Josh's 58 Buick @ Putnam Park and it flung a craving on me. So I bought me a 1 owner 58 Buick Century Caballero Estate Wagon..it came factory equipped with air suspension..Gonna get Air ride to build me a modern set up for it. It's over at Alan's now...I have Doan Spencers last car he was working on when he died...It's a 66 GT 350 Mustang...It has a set of Spencer 16" 3 piece Kidney Bean wheels on it. I want to put a SOHC Ford Cammer in it(427 mid sixties kind)...As far as buying your own car back at Barrett...it now cost you 18%..The buy fee is now 10%..By the way, it's against the law to buy your own car at a no reserve sale...lot of people don't know that...There was an article about it in the legal files in the Sports Car Market a few months ago. Chandelier bids are also illegal...you can buy your car if it has a Reserve..but not no reserve. Barrett is probably going to crack down on it...they can't stop it...but one of their competitors runs cars at no reserve..they only charge you 5% total if your car is bought back...they better watch it. lawsuit happy people are going to sue over this and stand a shot at getting damages to boot... Barrett is not going to agree to anyone buying their car...no law against getting a friend buy it though...but at 18%...OUCH...We have to be at the Playboy Mansion on the 20th...leave here on the 15th..We will be back at SEMA in Mattel's Booth...We'll bring it back and throw the new clutch in it and see what we can get done...We have kept the cars vulnerable places covered in the clear plastic to keep road rash down...it will be as new when it goes to Barrett...as far as Barrett paying show money...not a chance in He**..it's a full 8% sell fee all the way to the sale price. I wish I hadn't committed to the Mansion deal...Maxton is having their last run and I will miss it because I have to be in California...

screw that, give me the playboy mansion anyday over a the maxton event :yes:

so what do all the vettes do to keep the rear from braking? I've seen plenty of vettes with more horsepower survive.

Really?

You have two choices. Hang with the boys and haul a$$, or pay a grip of cash to go stare at plastic chicks who won't go home with you.

Um...I'd be in Georgia.

Scott and I are from the same town. Morgan Hill, CA. He is about 3-4 years older than me. He had the hero hot-rod and used to flat school fools from San Jose and all over at Baylands Rcwy and on Bailey Rd.

horsepower is only part of the equation..the killer is the wheel hop..loading and unloading the transaxle just tears it up. That was the first time i had sat dead still and hit it hard...I had experienced some lesser wheel hop before and feathered it out..Alan has never had it hop on him...it was hopping at the drag strip..I eased out and hit it again..it hopped everytime I hit it again in first and second...The bigger output shaft and the new shocks will eliminate it I hope...We already have the good bushings etc in it...

Not really sure what the HARD ON or other stupid comments are about? You got to love that even the guy who posted the orig comment turned on me. Don't worry Bob will still be your friend. I have never met Bob and do not have a bad thing to say about him or anybody else. We are simply discussing a car's performance. Stop jumping down my throat to prove something to Bob and sit back and read my orig post. Nothing wrong said about anybody.


Guys, Bob's car is the best of the best end of story. I am not going to back track on anything that I said that in my orig post. The problem I have is guys just over exaggerating it's performance when if it was a different car that broke or didn't post it's performance as promised you would be all over it. If someone posted pics of their early 70's Implala sitting on 24's and gave the exact performance what would you be saying? Since it is Bob and he is a high profile guy you feel the need to defend the car's performance. This is also not saying that it isn't capable of hitting all its goals or maybe it has I have just never seen any follow up print in regards to that. By the way I have never seen Bob claim anything? I also have read a a lot of Bob's post and he does not hold back on anything.


So if I hop in my wifes Benz, Do a couple burn outs, half track passes and go on the PT and convince Bob to sit in the passenger seat I am the King of Pro Touring? This is something any car should be able to do. I agree that it is one of the few high end cars that has had any seat time but once again why treat it differently than a $25k car that everybody demands to see it back up it's claims. There is a guy on here with a turbo Chevelle that constantly claims to run a certain 1/4 mile and he gets hit with tons of replies demanding to see time slips. So what did I say that was so different? I think he is capable of answering for himself without the aid of the cyber tough guys with the comments.


This is a site about driving a car and it's performance. Sorry but as far as I know there are no other ways of proving performance than seeing numbers. I do not care if it is my own car or Bob's I am not going to say it is the best performing anything until I see it. If the car was built to be a unbeatable show car and killer driver it has more than met it's goals. The car has pushed the envelope in so many ways but if I remember right this site isn't just about looks.

Anybody who has ever met me knows I do not talk Sh-t about anyone. We are simply discussing a car. And before the attack on one of my cars start I will be the first to explain they are nice but the best or anywhere in Bob's league.

Again, nobody is saying that it's the "best performing car out there".. However you keep ignoring that it has seen track time. It ran hard and came in second at the Putnam event. That was against some pretty fast cars. Does that not count for some reason?

I also ran the auto-x event in PF and has tons of street miles. Last time it broke was at the drag strip, not being driven on and off a trailer at some car show.

I don't know why you continually ignore this even after it's been said to you. At least be accurate.

Bob, the wheel hop problem may not be a Cuda problem at all, but instead a track problem. I know of a half dozen cars that do not normally have wheel hop (Prodigy, Fuel, SteveO to name a few) that all suffered severe wheel hop at that track. Hell, my drag car had traction and wheel hop issues, and that car is known for hooking in mud! I think it had a lot to do with the concrete to ashphalt transition, pot marks, and spotty prep. So I would not be to stressed over wheel hop. After fixing Prodigy, Michael and I were playing on the street, me in the street racer, he in Prodigy on a 25MPH roll, when he matted it he burned the tires pretty hard, but no wheel hop like at the track.

Sound like some cool projects :cool: . Got any pics yet ;) ?

David

Definately NOT you Jody!!! :eek: I meant Cody, Yody or whatever his name is this week. Sorry I did not clarify my statement more quickly. I have not been on the site until now.

So.... for everyone:

I consider Jody (Bernard) absolutely, positively one of the very best people on this board !!!! :thumbsup:

...sorry about the confusion.

I'll have Frank hit me over the head with a club for you next time I see him..

"I consider Jody (Bernard) absolutely, positively one of the very best people on this board !!!! "


Now we know you are nuts.......

:ttiwop:

and while I agree with some of what you are saying. Your delivery sucks ;)

Fixed

:rofl: You crack me up! And Bruce, I knew it was an error, just giving you a bit of grief!

Jody

Is the cuda gonna be in it's race set-up at SEMA?

My comment was my car is "NOT" the best. There are pics on this site and in a few places if you need them.


Steve I have to ask you; Do you have nothing better to do than reply to EVERY post I make? You seam to go into attack mode whenever I voice an opinion about anything. What is the grudge? Read my post again what are you not getting? If you feel something has met your expectations that is great. By the way I didn't even make the original comment I just simply
agreed with his post. Do you notice that not even the owner took it wrong?

OK, It is the fastest bestest car I have ever seen. Are you happy? I also think Superman can beat up Batman. What is gainded from that? Maybe you simply had info regarding the car that most of us didn't. But you have no problem with some clown who has never even met me calling me a hard on?

Also guys stop the PM and emails if you agree post it here I am not the leader of any I hate Bob cult. Once again I have no problem with anyone including Steve.



This is just lite talk about a car. Come on!!

There is no car that is the best, there are just too many categories to deal with, i.e. one car might handle better but has crappy paint and one seat, etc, etc, etc. Bob's car is awesome but it will never be the best in all aspects like quarter mile, a cross, gas mileage, etc. Its awesome and just love it for what it is and enjoy the friendship along the way.

Lets be less harsh and see the good.

:lol: :lol: :thumbsup:

Damn! Now i have to find a new cult to find. Maybe we can start up a I hate Steve Cult!! Shouldn't be hard to find members :D :hail:

Nobody here has said that any car is the "best".. the Cuda is certainly the baddest looking car here but that dosen't make it "best".

And I did have info you didn't.. like the fact that it placed second at the Putnam track event.. or drove the PF autocross :p

I think Jake was just saying you were being a hard ass.. I guess I could see you taking it another way. Sorry, should have deleted it.

Hmmm.. actually.. nope.. nothing at all :)

I just pointed out that even after someone posted about it running (without breaking) at two events you went on like it never happened.

A. I never said it met my expectations.. mainly because I had none.

B. Why are you getting so upset? I just pointed out that it's done more than just a few burn outs and a drive on Power Tour.

For the record I have zero problem with you Brain. Also, if people send you any derogatory or "bashing" PM's you should let a mod know. You are entitled to your opinion just like everyone else.

Again, I only wanted to make sure you realized that Bob's car has driven in events and did pretty well. Your posts sounded like you didn't know this. Just putting out info.

How about a hug?