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HRBS 06-06-2007 08:17 AM

These will be the last 'sneak peak' pics untill that car is fully completed.
It should be 100% by Columbus.
(I hope) :willy:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...3_102_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...3_103_full.jpg

JohnnyGMachine 06-07-2007 08:26 AM

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHH MAAAAAAN! Steve - it looks AMAZING! Not sure if I will be going to Columbus this year but please oh please get me some pics.

Thanks for sharing!
J

Hdesign 06-07-2007 08:57 AM

I feel like I am being pulled over to the dark side. You're turning me into a Blue Oval fan...I may need to seek counseling.

That looks killer! Can't wait to see when it's done. The stripe looks awesome!:thumbsup:

RussMS 06-07-2007 09:02 AM

Absolutely Stunning! :hail:

Its hard to beat a Black Car for looking good. After Columbus please give us some more eye candy and thanks for the peek.

HRBS 06-07-2007 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hdesign
I feel like I am being pulled over to the dark side. You're turning me into a Blue Oval fan...I may need to seek counseling.

You and I both Ben !
Everyone who knows me, knows me as a die hard Chevy guy as well as building cars that are a combination of Pro-Touring and Pro Street.

But I gotta tell you.... this car has me thinking. It is so out of the box for me (ie: being a g-machine, BLACK, supercharged EFI and a Ffff...Ford).
I am more excited about this car than i had originally thought.

I lied and I will post some more pics tonight or tomorrow.... I am progressing faster than I thought.
The clock is ticking so if I get a break I'll snap some and post them.

thanks guys..... and John, You'll have some extra ones in your inbox !

HRBS 06-09-2007 07:02 PM

Engine is in :woot:
Have to do a little fabrication to the intake tube because it hits the shock tower (badly).
The engine mock-up done months ago was without the super-charger.
That's the only hiccup thus far !

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...3_104_full.jpg

RussMS 06-10-2007 08:53 AM

Hands down one of the nicest presentations on a mod motor I have seen. Gotta ask, what color did you paint the block? Pops really well in that black engine bay. Would love to see more pics as you have the time. :woot:

BC69 06-10-2007 10:52 AM

Awesome car! I haven't seen this post until now, but great progress! I really like the interior from earlier posts. :thumbsup:

Tim

HRBS 06-10-2007 02:40 PM

Here is a pic of the dash.
The gauge panel and the dash pad both took some finessing but fits 'ok'.
Alot left to do... I am starting to feel the heat !

Russ... its 2001 Prowler Orange.
BC... thanks ... the interior will be the very last thing to put back in... maybe at the hotel in Columbus :faint:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...3_105_full.jpg

HRBS 06-15-2007 06:48 AM

Engine Wiring and elec. almost completed.
Trim is Almost completed.
Interior started to be re-installed.
Conv. top will be stitched up next week.
A few things need to be fab'd like some intake tubing and a hood valance.... and alot needs to be sorted out but it should be good enough for Columbus i n3 weeks. If i get some time, I Should have pics up soon.

HRBS 06-15-2007 02:04 PM

Trunk-a-funk !
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...3_106_full.jpg

Rear Seats:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...3_107_full.jpg

jason@gmachine 06-15-2007 04:14 PM

very clean, im very impressed with the work.



Jason

RussMS 06-16-2007 05:18 PM

Man that rear seat and panels look clean as a whistle. Cant wait to see this ride finished. :thumbsup:

HRBS 07-02-2007 02:11 PM

After some long and hard thoughts, we have chosen not to complete the Mustang from Columbus. We encountered some last minute glitches and mishaps along with the timely backordered parts early on and decided we are too far behind at this point. I feel too strongly against sacrificing the safety and integrity of the car for a time restraint. I'd rather not go and finish the car correctly than rush it for the deadline, only to rebuild it afterwards at my expense.
At this time, it is not going. However, if things progress smoothly and timely in the next 2 weeks, we may reconsider but only as a last minute decision.

HRBS 08-18-2007 06:13 AM

Update:
Well... we figured out all the issues and have them all resolved.
Work since missing Columbus involved:
-New fuel Management system
-New fuel pump
-New larger lines
-Flash the ECM
-Installing a Blow Off valve
-intake tube fabrication
-air inlet tube
-new wiring
-new 35 lbs injectors
-fabricate a bracket for the trans shifter linkage (this was a BIG deal)

Should see dyno time on Monday / Tuesday !

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...3_117_full.jpg

JohnnyGMachine 08-20-2007 01:01 PM

Absolutely killer!!!!! Cannot wait to see it done!

J

HRBS 08-21-2007 08:37 AM

Thanks John....
As you know we mocked up the engine less the Blower (because it was backordered and I didnt want to have the project stalled) and THAT caused major issues later on.
Once paint and body were completed and the engine went in for final assembly we noticed the blower fit (barely) but the problem was with everything else associated. The blower sat way too close to the shock tower when mounted and the intake tube was such a tight bend I didnt think we would have been able to do it..... but we did. I have a K&N cone at the end of the tube at the drive side and the blow off is post the MAS air sensor so the air is already accounted for.
We had to cut a huge piece out of the blower mounting bracket, fabricate a new "straight" water neck out of the intake manifold and relocate the battery tray to the drive side for extra room on the pass side and it is still is tight.... but works.
Crazy amount of unforseen fabrication. This EFI setup proved to be too much for me so I enlisted the help of IDA Automotive. They really know their s#!% !

Dyno time is postponed due to poor weather here. But as soon as we get a nice day, we'll make a few pulls and tune this bad boy. Then get the top stiched up and detail it up for some nice outdoor shots. Hope to see some road course time before the end of the year.

andrewmp6 08-21-2007 08:31 PM

looks great so far id clean up the welds on the tubing and polish them. any thoughts on lighting you know h4 headlights led trun singals reverse lights and tail lights.

HRBS 08-22-2007 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewmp6
looks great so far id clean up the welds on the tubing and polish them. any thoughts on lighting you know h4 headlights led trun singals reverse lights and tail lights.

Come on Andrew... you didnt think I'd leave it like that did you ? LOL
We'll clean up the tubes and polish everthing after the dyno tune.
The intake needs a little extra polish too. the engine bay is a little dirty from all the work the last few weeks.
As far as lights... the rear lenses were tinted and I'm running red LED's.
The front has (HALO) Angel Eyes :unibrow:

Hdesign 08-22-2007 06:53 AM

I love the tinted/LED taillights and the angel eye headlights are going to look really slick! You guys did an amazing job so far!

Roger Poirier 08-22-2007 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hdesign
You guys did an amazing job so far!

You must be a hard sell.... :rofl:

R.P.

HRBS 08-22-2007 12:31 PM

Thanks Ben !
The light is at the end of the tunnel. (i think i can see it :D )

DYNO RESULTS ARE IN !!!!

The engine internals are basically a stock '93 5.0L (cam, heads, etc).
We changed the upper and lower intake to a Cobra set up and upgraded the injectors to 35lbs from the stock 19lbs. Also bolted on a set of JBA headers and thats it.
The supercharger is a basic Paxton Novi 1000 pushing only 5psi of boost.

Base line:
Stock engine at crank = 245hp
Stock engine at rear wheels = 195hp

New Set-Up:
RWHP = 270hp
Approx. hp at crank (based on 20% loss) = 350hp

HP Gain was a approx 105hp !!

BTW... The car only weights 3100.
Should be a FUN ride....:unibrow:

Sales@Dutchboys 08-22-2007 12:39 PM

Sweeet! lol :thumbsup:

Paul

HRBS 08-22-2007 03:47 PM

Here are some old pics from early July.
I'll have some new ones with the new mercedes canvas top and full interior within a week or so. But for now... here you go...

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...g/P0002336.jpg

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...g/P0002337.jpg

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...g/P0002335.jpg

andrewmp6 08-26-2007 01:27 AM

i never understood why ford used different quarter panels on the coupe/vert and the fastback in 69/70 when the rest of the years they all looked alike. but doing the quarter panels like you did gave you more room in the rear and they look alot better.

Ummgawa 08-26-2007 06:37 AM

Steve

Awesome car. Can you share with us how you did the fastback mods? Did you cut in a fastback trunklid with a coupe/vert lid and then add the quarter extensions ends from a fastback? I did a Boss 302 vert clone (obviously) way back in the day and wanted the look you have achieved, but I went on and used the Shelby stuff, filled in the back panel. Never was happy with the results. The dude that bought it loved it though (ha ha).

By the way you nailed what Ford missed in the fastback look you have done. I love convertibles and have owned a few 69-70's but that was always the weak spot design wise when you got to the back of the car, It's like they just gave up. Again, Shelby treatment looks great(perfect for a Shelby-mind you) But you nailed it for a stock body mod.. I am a GM man all the way, but seeing your finished product makes me wish had one of those 69-70 verts again.

Thanks again for the awesome pix!

HRBS 08-26-2007 04:21 PM

Thanks Andrew.

Ummgawa:
I too am a die hard Chevy guy myself.... but have to admit... this is one of my favorite builds. Its so different than anything I've done. I am not turning into a Ford lover.... but it has made me like these old Stangs alot more.
These pics show how and where we grafted the quarters on. They started as full quarters (not skins). We cut them off where we wanted in order to fit them properly.
These pics dont show (what I think) you were asking for.
But I'll try to explain here:
We bought fastback quarter extensions and a fastback trunk lid (just for the spoiler portion) The major differences between the two models are that the fastback trunk lid is about 4 inches shorter than the coupe/conv. and the quarter extensions are about 2 inches longer (per side). The other major problem is that the quarter extensions are pot (cast) metal in which is impossible to weld. So the major surgery (other than the obvious quarter panel change) is that we had to cut 2 inches out of the middle of the fastback extensions and used a panel bond adhesive to attached the end face to the remaining extention. That seemed easier than cutting the last 2 inches off and fab'ing a new end. Then after both sides were done we cut off the spoiler portion of the fastback trunk lid and cut it in half. We then welded it to the conv. trunk lid and fabricated a 4 inch "filler" peice in the center.
After all that was completed we had to modify the rear quarter window track assembly so that the windows would roll down with the fastback scoops in place. (fastback rear quarter window are stationary because of the scoops).
All in all, it really was an enormous undertaking. But obviously it CAN be done.

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...g/P0002305.jpg

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...g/P0002303.jpg

Ummgawa 08-26-2007 05:08 PM

Steve

My hats off to you dude. When I saw your build and the finished product, I thought about all of the 69-70 Stang verts that I have passed on because I could not achieve the look you have. The fastback quarters have what looks like a sweep at the top of the side profile where the Verts looks strait as a Preacher.I am certain it is an optical illusion due to the upsweep of the Fastback quarter extensions.

Do you have pix of the quarter extensions and how you modded them?

By the way thanks for the reply. Now if you'd come up brackets to install an LS motor in a 69-70....

Ummgawa 08-26-2007 05:15 PM

Well, I just noticed from the pix you posted that it appears that you grafted the entire fastback quarter onto the vert, sweeping over the top of the rear quarter. If I sent you a trunk lid and a pair of quarter extensions, could you do the mod for me? If you are like me, the first time is a pain, but the second time I'm alot better. Of course, you might not want the pain again. I tell you, that mod would make even the Grande coupes look good.

HRBS 08-26-2007 05:25 PM

They do have a bit of a bow. Its slight enough that its noticed more due to the scoop placement.
As far as doing another set..... it is nearly impossible to do anything of this nature without the actual car. Every piece is unique in its own way. If it were something to be done, I wouldnt be able to guantee the fitment because of the varibles in relation to the quarter extension fitting flush on the quarter and having the spoiler mounted so that the height is correct as well as it all lining up. Also gapping comes in play when triming the quarter extensions. The exact dimension of our set-up may not be the exact as yours. Then you may have a larger gap on one side than on the other. etc.
I think with the info provided, a experienced body shop with some custom work under their belt should be able to get the job done. But I can tell you this.... it'll be an open ended est due to the nature of the job and not being able to put an est. time on it !

BC69 08-26-2007 07:16 PM

Looking awesome! Great progress and great setup! :thumbsup:

Ummgawa 08-27-2007 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HRBS
They do have a bit of a bow. Its slight enough that its noticed more due to the scoop placement.
As far as doing another set..... it is nearly impossible to do anything of this nature without the actual car. Every piece is unique in its own way. If it were something to be done, I wouldnt be able to guantee the fitment because of the varibles in relation to the quarter extension fitting flush on the quarter and having the spoiler mounted so that the height is correct as well as it all lining up. Also gapping comes in play when triming the quarter extensions. The exact dimension of our set-up may not be the exact as yours. Then you may have a larger gap on one side than on the other. etc.
I think with the info provided, a experienced body shop with some custom work under their belt should be able to get the job done. But I can tell you this.... it'll be an open ended est due to the nature of the job and not being able to put an est. time on it !


Very Cool Steve, and I agree about the difficulty of the job. On the three I have owned, I took the idea (ten years ago) to a few body shops to have the work estimated and two flat out said "no". One said he'd try but would not guarentee the results. Yours is awesome, man excellent job.

By the way thanks for all the responses and the pix. Will it be at SEMA?

HRBS 08-27-2007 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ummgawa
Will it be at SEMA?

Trying to feel a few companys out.
Any takers? :lol:
We'll be there..... it would be nice if the car was too.

andrewmp6 08-27-2007 10:34 PM

nothing wrong with being a ford guy.i like most older cars no matter who made it. ill laugh if most people dont know you change the quarters like that. i have a 68 coupe thats a california special clone but i put the gt350 side scoops on since they are functional i only had one guy call me out on that. how much more you got left to do on it.have any thoughts about a rollbar like the shelbys had.

HRBS 08-28-2007 07:07 AM

Started the fabric Conv. top today.
Then we still have:
-power door locks and windows
-wire some misc items
-wire gauges
-install seats
-wire stereo
-fab some front bumper braces
-misc trim items
-fab some tailpipes
-install weather stipping and fuzzies

Thats about it. Basically alot of odds and ends like wiring.

The biggest item to do is repaint some panels. I am not happy with some of the finish on the front fenders. Slight sand markings in the prime coat are showing through the top black coat. Black is a bitch ! Nothing too major.

andrewmp6 09-04-2007 03:30 AM

if you dont have the power door and windows autoworksracing.com has both

HRBS 09-19-2007 10:59 AM

Thanks Andrew.... I've had them in boxes from day one.
The top is beautiful!
We used the Mercedes Benz Fabric (like denim).
I'll post some pics soon.
Working on a few wiring gremlins that seemed to pop up. (Actually I am just finding excuses not to give this back to its owner :lol: )
This car has been a blast building..... is this 'ol chevy guy turning ?
Naaaa, just diggin this car !

Lenie 11-13-2007 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HRBS
Here is a pic of the dash.
The gauge panel and the dash pad both took some finessing but fits 'ok'.
Alot left to do... I am starting to feel the heat !

Russ... its 2001 Prowler Orange.
BC... thanks ... the interior will be the very last thing to put back in... maybe at the hotel in Columbus :faint:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...3_105_full.jpg

Who makes the guages and what color are they, sharp!
Thanks


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