Thats a tuff one - i agree if you don't show the finished project to the Net then you should be okay. I have about 800 pictures of the build of the Grandmaster prior to it being unvailaled at Detroit. If you want to play it safe post all of your pics up till the completion and debut it at the show.

Your goal was to debut it at the show and i am certain that has not changed. If you play it safe and don't show the world the finished product then you could argue that you want to be considered.

this is my understanding unfortunatly.

Have you ever been to detroit Bob? In all honesty what you have done is very cool and most would never think to do anything like it. You have executed it very well, and should be proud of what you have built. But even if the car was allowed to be entered it isn't going to be anythng the judges will be interested in.......looking back at the last 5 cars that have one...they have all been 750k + purpose built street rods that have taken years to complete that are only designed for one thing to win the riddler! However it is your decision I do hope to see it at detroit but if it were mine i'm not sure I would sign it up as a riddler entry...

Hi T,

Thank you for the kind words.

I agree with your comment about "But even if the car was allowed to be entered it isn't going to be anythng the judges will be interested in" I have looked back over the winners over the past 25 years and custom street rods are king.

I really did not have any expectations as far as actually winning. But I have noticed that they do tend to select a car other than a street rod for the great 8. That would be my greatest achievment to date. For examples sake, the car that won the Good Guys street machine of the year was a Ridler finalist.

Also, I love custom street rods as much as the next guy, but honestly, isn't there a 60's 70's 80's 90's custom car built that has just as much "creativity, engineering and workmanship". As far as the Autoramma is concerned, only two cars (a pro street Grand Am and a custom Mercedies <sp>) were deserving of the award.

It is time for builders of our types of cars to push the envelope. Our cars are just as creative, just as complex and exhibit just quality worksmanship. Isn't part of "creativity" coming up with something different. Breaking new ground. Taking a different slant on old trends.

How about building a street rod that meets all of todays production requirements. If Detroit were produceing street rods today, what would they be like? If WWII never happened, what would the cars of the 50's been like. If the fuel crissis never happend, what would the cars of the 70's been like.

Regardless of cost, it is time for us to show that our cars can show just as "creativity, engineering and workmanship" as any 30's street rod.

Detroit did build a late model "street rod"...the Prowler. It didnt sell very well. I agree that muscle cars or sixties cars dont get any respect for the Riddler. If its not a street rod they dont get it. I think your car is a great out of the box example. I would love to see it in person someday. :thumbsup:

Hi S,

The Prowler. I had totally forgot about that car.

That is the perfect example.

Imagine if Dodge never built the Prowler. Imagine if, instead, that car were built by one of us. A car that incorporated all the functions and features of the Prowler and built in a way that simulated factory construction. A custom car that satisfies ALL of the current production car requirements. A custom car that in fact could actually be built on a production basis. Imagine taking it to the Autoramma making the great 8 and then taking the Ridler.

That would be something different. IMO that would be a car deserving of the Ridler.

Didn't Chip Foose build a street rod that was AWD here a few yrs back.. Looked similar to a Prowler red/silver if I remember correctly. Actually, I don't think it was Foose that built it. I don't remember..lol

Are you talking about Quadradeuce II ( I believe Quadraduece I was an AWD Roadster that was purple and yellow with yellow wheels). I believe it was built by Trepanier.

Hi All,

Today the glass goes in. I am really pumped. This is the last major item prior to installing the interior. Wish us luck.

Bob

PS: All this talk of the "Ridler" has been fun. But the Ridler is not something you actually enter, but something for which you are chosen. I hope that all the comments, both yea and nea, have given everybody food for thought. That maybe some of the comments here will inspire you to look at your car project a little differently than the current status quo. Be different, take chances. Just because everyone else does things in a certain way, does not mean that you have to.

I don't think so. I think this one was on the cover of Jegs or Summit at one time. I am pretty sure it was red/silver with billet wheels.. I may be mistaken. I will try to search for it.

i think the quadraduece was originally one of steilows projects, summit took it over and finished it in the purple and yellow paint scheme, rad rides refreshed the car a couple years ago, changing the 6 spd to an auto, adding billet wheels, and changing the paint to the 2 tone red/silver making it more "street rod" styled.