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Ketzer 05-13-2015 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 605261)
We have the 40 mm taller intercooler bricks and spacers in from C&R. We hope to dyno is in a couple weeks.

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...psvuh10qua.jpg

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...pseadmdu1j.jpg

I had to purchase 4 sets to cover the tooling so if someone needs/wants a engine set IM me.

Mark

Hmmm, I wonder if those would fit my CTS-V....?

Stielow 05-13-2015 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ketzer (Post 605300)
Hmmm, I wonder if those would fit my CTS-V....?

A CTS-V lid and a ZR-1 blower lid have the same bolt pattern.

So will it bolt up... Yes. I would need to look at the sealing inside on the bottom of the bricks to the blower.

Mark

GRob 05-13-2015 01:12 PM

Mark I'd be interested as well for an LSA.

Stielow 05-13-2015 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GRob (Post 605309)
Mark I'd be interested as well for an LSA.

I think there would be a better cost efficient solution for a LSA. By the time you buy an LS9 blower lid and the C&R parts it would be very spendy.

I'll look at a LSA system to see if a better intercooler could be made.

Mark

waynieZ 05-13-2015 03:11 PM

It won't fit, the LSA has a single brick and it sits right in the middle over the opening in the supercharger. I already asked if C&R was going to do something similar for the LSA and they told me not right now but you never know. They would probably sell a ton of them if they did.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps5rcnl2os.jpg

CarlC 05-13-2015 08:05 PM

We do have a RetroWorx kit for single modules. For duals it's usually best to make your own mounting plate.

http://vaporworx.com

Mark, are you using the full fuel system during the dyno runs for validation?

Bmf5150 05-13-2015 11:52 PM

Looks great

BigRedCamaro 05-14-2015 12:43 AM

This is a great thread. Amazing work on an already awesome '69. A lot of great ideas here. Keep it up Mark.

Stielow 05-14-2015 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CarlC (Post 605346)
We do have a RetroWorx kit for single modules. For duals it's usually best to make your own mounting plate.

http://vaporworx.com

Mark, are you using the full fuel system during the dyno runs for validation?

Carl

That is the plan. We will use the tank in the dyno cell and start with 100% gasoline then go to E85 then look at blends (E50, E25...) To make sure the flex fuel sensor is working correctly.

It is a bit more work to run the system in the cell but then you can control everything.

We will also A/B test the bigger intercooler bricks.

Still a lot of little details to work out.

Mark

On a side note we fired up the hoist last night. No more rolling around on the shop floor.

GregWeld 05-14-2015 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 605366)
On a side note we fired up the hoist last night. No more rolling around on the shop floor.



You'll never go back to jack stands and creepers. I used to refuse to go to my buddies houses to help them --- they HAD to bring the car to me so we could use my lift.

LXSS350 05-14-2015 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 605261)
We have the 40 mm taller intercooler bricks and spacers in from C&R. We hope to dyno is in a couple weeks.

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...psvuh10qua.jpg

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...pseadmdu1j.jpg

I had to purchase 4 sets to cover the tooling so if someone needs/wants a engine set IM me.


Mark

Mark what did C&R say is the expected efficiency gain with the 40mm larger bricks? Obviously the dyno results tell a story, but without knowing the base results on standard bricks such results don't give us mortals the relative cost/gain equation.

(Ignore as Mark already answered that he will be testing std and bigger bricks - colin )

Ketzer 05-14-2015 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 605313)
I think there would be a better cost efficient solution for a LSA. By the time you buy an LS9 blower lid and the C&R parts it would be very spendy.

I'll look at a LSA system to see if a better intercooler could be made.

Mark

A lot of the Cadillac guys are switching to the ZL1 lid which is supposed to have a slightly larger brick?


Jeff-

waynieZ 05-14-2015 07:56 AM

Yes it has more air volume. When I ordered my LSA I got a ZL1 lid to put on it. We have to be excited that Mark is doing these upgrades as they are trickling down so we get to have them too.

theastronaut 05-15-2015 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 602773)

Is there a part number available for the axle ends? Very interested in using a set for my '66 C10 build.

pro-touring.no 05-16-2015 10:06 AM

Allredy ordered... new rear from DSE with your floater stuff:) going to Norway soon.. Thanks for sharing with us Mark.. :G-Dub: :flag2:

jlwdvm 05-18-2015 07:18 AM

Always looking for ideas in your threads! A little off topic, but was there a 2016 Shelby GT350 at your house this weekend?

Stielow 05-18-2015 07:19 AM

Starting on ABS brake lines.

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...psv8vsydly.jpg

Mark

syborg tt 05-19-2015 08:12 AM

Mark,

I feel like I am watching the "Mule Build" in PHR all over again.

Your builds are truly inspirational and the fact that you share your knowledge and make parts available after you design them with the "Team/Small Army" of people you work with. Once again this build has lit the fire in me to get back on my car and start toying with it.

Thank you again for sharing your knowledge and experience.

aggie91 05-20-2015 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by syborg tt (Post 605901)
Mark,

I feel like I am watching the "Mule Build" in PHR all over again.

Your builds are truly inspirational and the fact that you share your knowledge and make parts available after you design them with the "Team/Small Army" of people you work with. Once again this build has lit the fire in me to get back on my car and start toying with it.

Thank you again for sharing your knowledge and experience.

Marty - Could not have said it better myself. Even though I don't have a Camaro or car for that matter, his process and ideas have inspired me too to work on my truck and maybe incorporate some of his ideas.

Mark, you are doing a wonderful job with the posts on this update and explaining why you make decisions is great!

67greengt 05-20-2015 09:58 AM

Mark,

As the others have mentioned thanks so much for sharing the build pictures and your experience/knowledge with the rest of us!

Is it critical for the intercooler to be out in the front of the grille opening as opposed to the A/C Condenser?

I just got my C/R Racing Rad and once test fit I'm going to get them to build me a custom Intercooler to replace the Roush Racing factory Intercooler along with some overflow/surge tanks to go with it. I really like the setup you have come up with and was thinking of doing the same exact intercooler/Vintage air condenser - is that a 14x24 condenser or a 14x22?

Thanks again for all your help

Tom
67 Rouscharged Coyote Fastback with DSE/Roadster Shop IFS

Stielow 05-20-2015 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 67greengt (Post 606015)
Mark,

As the others have mentioned thanks so much for sharing the build pictures and your experience/knowledge with the rest of us!

Is it critical for the intercooler to be out in the front of the grille opening as opposed to the A/C Condenser?

I just got my C/R Racing Rad and once test fit I'm going to get them to build me a custom Intercooler to replace the Roush Racing factory Intercooler along with some overflow/surge tanks to go with it. I really like the setup you have come up with and was thinking of doing the same exact intercooler/Vintage air condenser - is that a 14x24 condenser or a 14x22?

Thanks again for all your help

Tom
67 Rouscharged Coyote Fastback with DSE/Roadster Shop IFS

In an all-out race car I would delete the A/C or place it second in the stack. I placed it first because it packageed well that way and if I needed to pull it for better air flow I could more easily.

Off memory my A/C condenser is 14 X 24 or get the biggest one you can.

On a side note I dove a GM car yesterday for tank fulls of fuel flat out (45 minutes sessions) on the Milford Road Course with the A/C on high. The cooling system was so good it never got hotter than 195 F and the A/C was blowing ice cold. My lap time on lap 22 was the same as lap one, no temperature fall off. So if you set up the system correctly the A/C should not affect the performance of the car. (We cut the A/C compressor at WOT). It was great to have the windows up and the A/C kicking, very comfortable. I almost turned on the radio... The new car, the 6th version of something, is great... Unlike the A-hole form Jalopnik I was able to drive flat out for 1.5 hours in a V-8 and not crash.

Also a big benefit of keep the engine / trans / diff / power steering is nothing leaks or pushes fluids over.

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Originally Posted by aggie91 (Post 606004)
Marty - Could not have said it better myself. Even though I don't have a Camaro or car for that matter, his process and ideas have inspired me too to work on my truck and maybe incorporate some of his ideas.

Mark, you are doing a wonderful job with the posts on this update and explaining why you make decisions is great!

Thanks for all the kind works. I try to share what I’m doing to help people out. This hobby is expensive enough without have to do things over. I the way I do things may not be the cheapest, but it works for me. A lot of what I do is over kill if you are not tracking your car. I have a big advantage that my day job relates to my hobby very closely. I learn something new every day.

I had my Dad up for my spring car party and as Dad and I were talking he said, “if the 18 year old Mark could see the 50 year old Mark he would be impressed”. When I was a kid I never dreamed of doing what I’m doing now. Dad and I were looking at the Hot Rod feature from 1993 and talking about all the junk I have built over the years. Kind of cool.

All these projects are snap shots in time on what the technology / trends are at the time it was built. Next year there will be new parts and things to try. I’m just now looking into the LT engines and I’m starting to learn about them. The LS engines are great and we know all the tricks to get them to work. In 6 years we went from a 700 HP LS9 to a 1000 HP LS9.

I love these old cars and will keep on refining them.

Mark

GRob 05-20-2015 01:28 PM

Mark, your house is probably the first "public" place where a GT350 has met a Z28. That's pretty damn cool.

Not sure what your role was but congrats on the 6th gen. Looks really great.

67greengt 05-20-2015 07:21 PM

Thanks Mark!! :thankyou:

Bmf5150 05-20-2015 09:30 PM

Great post mark,thanks for all you share!!!

Sieg 05-21-2015 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 606021)
I had my Dad up for my spring car party and as Dad and I were talking he said, “if the 18 year old Mark could see the 50 year old Mark he would be impressed”. When I was a kid I never dreamed of doing what I’m doing now. Dad and I were looking at the Hot Rod feature from 1993 and talking about all the junk I have built over the years. Kind of cool.

Mark that quote is really special.

Thank you for being you. :thumbsup:

GregWeld 05-21-2015 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 606120)
Mark that quote is really special.

Thank you for being you. :thumbsup:




You're "special"..... but not in a good way.

Flash68 05-21-2015 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 606120)
Mark that quote is really special.

Thank you for being you. :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 606137)
You're "special"..... but not in a good way.

:lol: Yeah Sieg... or should we call you Stuart Smalley?

69hugger 05-22-2015 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 606138)
:lol: Yeah Sieg... or should we call you Stuart Smalley?

HEY! Easy on the Stuart Smalley crack. He is my esteemed Senator. (I just vurped my breakfast). :( :( :(

Bill

Stielow 06-02-2015 06:42 PM

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Matt at Sled Alley got all the fab work done and now the Dutchboys are painting the bottom of the car and the firewall.

GregWeld 06-02-2015 07:17 PM

I like your Dad better than you.....

raustinss 06-02-2015 08:50 PM

Oh....good one! ...mark tell Greg opinions are like toothbrushes we all have one no need to share.

Sieg 06-02-2015 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by raustinss (Post 607286)
Oh....good one! ...mark tell Greg opinions are like toothbrushes we all have one no need to share.

Considering the avatar picture right above GW's last comment Mark doesn't need to say a thing. :D

fleet 06-03-2015 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 69hugger (Post 606226)
HEY! Easy on the Stuart Smalley crack. He is my esteemed Senator. (I just vurped my breakfast). :( :( :(

Bill



:shakehead:

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Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 607272)
Matt at Sled Alley got all the fab work done and now the Dutchboys are painting the bottom of the car and the firewall.

Great seeing JA get updated here Mark. :thumbsup:

69hugger 06-03-2015 05:45 AM

[QUOTE=Cosmo mentis;607304]

:shakehead:



Thanks Skip. Another in the long, rich tradition that brought us Governor Jesse "The Body"!


Bill

sanddan 06-03-2015 09:43 AM

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Looks like someone's been jacking on the sill's instead of the frame.

Attachment 54494

Stielow 06-03-2015 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by sanddan (Post 607336)
Looks like someone's been jacking on the sill's instead of the frame.

Attachment 54494

That is production but someone did jack it up on the pinch flange some time after it was painted.

JA is a rare 69 Camaro that still has the orginal quarter panels. It was a very solid car when set started on it.

Mark

formula88 06-28-2015 12:36 PM

It's a mad thrash weekend to get Jackass 2.0 ready for Goodguys Des Moines...

http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/...2/DSC_4982.jpg

http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/...2/DSC_4985.jpg

http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/...2/DSC_4989.jpg

GregWeld 06-28-2015 01:20 PM

Mark needs a Rubbermaid cart - for tools - so you don't have to lay stuff on the ground... Come on dude! Raise your game!! LOL




http://www.amazon.com/Rubbermaid-Ser...NQ2H7807YVCYXH

Vince@Meanstreets 06-28-2015 03:37 PM

Welcome to the real workd Greg. ��

Craftsman makes a nice one with great storage drawers and a lower shelf for the "sitting on the ground" work. Carts are great.


Looks good mark. Progress is progress.

RodZZilla 06-28-2015 06:01 PM

Awesome. I hope to be there Friday for sure.


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