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torino420 02-17-2013 08:28 AM

FYI Rob, I local friend of mine is having issues with the Modern Driveline setup in his 69 Chero. Here's a few video's he posted describing the issue.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp9B...?feature=watch


Keep the updates coming!

ironworks 02-17-2013 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 465133)
Got out and did some work on the Torino today. I pulled the Fuel cell, steering column and all the factory AC/heater ducting from under the dash and mocked up my Kirkey seat for some test fitting. I also checked out the fit of the modern driveline clutch linkage and hydraulic master to see if it wil work as advertised with my pedals.

The Clutch linkage looks like a go as does the seat. I have around 5.5" of headroom without a helmet to the headliner so with helmet I should fit and be below the top of the cage tubing.

The lowered seating position has me thinking of reworking my pedals to give a more horizontal action to them. For now I'll just move forward with getting the seat mounted and the steering column in and then make a decision on that. It actually has me considering a footwell pedal assembly.

I snapped some crappy pictures to keep GW happy.:D

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...psd1906209.jpg

I have always thought if you just powder coat an aluminum Kirkey seat a flat black color it would look pretty slick. Just food for thought.

GregWeld 02-17-2013 09:20 AM

Flat black WRINKLE....


Of course IF we could actually SEE said seat in a photo - we'd have a far better chance of being able to help discuss various options....

ironworks 02-17-2013 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 465249)
Flat black WRINKLE....


Of course IF we could actually SEE said seat in a photo - we'd have a far better chance of being able to help discuss various options....

Just be glad he bent down to take the picture or we would be seeing the top of the car.

INTMD8 02-17-2013 05:29 PM

Almost looks like 3 kirkeys would fit in the front of this rig, then you could go to center steering like a McLaren F1.

Or have them custom build you a huge bench seat? :idea:

Sieg 02-17-2013 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INTMD8 (Post 465371)
Almost looks like 3 kirkeys would fit in the front of this rig, then you could go to center steering like a McLaren F1.

Or have them custom build you a huge bench seat? :idea:

:idea: Kirkolounger!

I like the Kirkey, powder coated as Roger mentioned. Dark green pads to match the exterior might be worthy of consideration.

intocarss 02-17-2013 07:46 PM

Powder coated my Kirkey semi flat black in my drag car just before I sold It, It looked awsome.

intocarss 02-17-2013 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 465406)
:idea: Kirkolounger!

I like the Kirkey, powder coated as Roger mentioned. Dark green pads to match the exterior might be worthy of consideration.

Couple of pics of someones seats

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/...ps240493d5.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/...ps5ff03a0a.jpg

GregWeld 02-17-2013 08:07 PM

Hang that big wide bad boy from some chain with a couple hood hinge springs from the roll cage and you'd have yourself a boat with a barcalounger....

What could possibly be better than that??



Okay seriously -- that Kirkey back seat is the koolest idea I've ever seen! Can you imagine the knowledgeable people that would see that - you could just sit back and watch their jaws drop!

FETorino 02-17-2013 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by torino420 (Post 465242)
FYI Rob, I local friend of mine is having issues with the Modern Driveline setup in his 69 Chero. Here's a few video's he posted describing the issue.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp9B...?feature=watch


Keep the updates coming!

Thanks for the heads up but I think your buddies problem has everything to do with his pedals and little to do with the linkage. The stock pedal design doesn't fair to well after decades of use with a heavy clutch. The metal shaft swinging in the metal hander with only a thin delrin bushing results in an oval hole over time and a pedal that no longer swings in one vertical plane. The side loading on the MD linkage looks to me to be his pedal rocking in the hanger.

Now in mine I took my pedals and pressed on some sealed bearings on the shaft and tacked in a couple of races on the hanger to hold the bearings. My pedals only swing front to back not side to side. The plane the pedals move in is aligned with the throw of the master. The pivot point on the MD linkage is at the bottom and the actuation rod for the master in the middle. The top is the pedal only moving fwd and back in a plane that bisects the master and the path of its piston. I don't think the bottom can chart a different path in my scenario. Ask your buddy if he can rock his pedals side to side, I bet he can. The only way to do that with mine is with a sledge or something else that can bend the hanger.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...psa5dd6501.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...ps2dad131d.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 465245)
I have always thought if you just powder coat an aluminum Kirkey seat a flat black color it would look pretty slick. Just food for thought.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 465249)
Flat black WRINKLE....


Of course IF we could actually SEE said seat in a photo - we'd have a far better chance of being able to help discuss various options....

Greg it's just like when Rodger picks you up to show you inside a car at a show. I know its a different angle that your not used to. :mock:


Quote:

Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 465430)
Powder coated my Kirkey semi flat black in my drag car just before I sold It, It looked awsome.

I'm all over powdercoating it satin black that is the plan. I may think about Scotts green pads....:idea:


Quote:

Originally Posted by INTMD8 (Post 465371)
Almost looks like 3 kirkeys would fit in the front of this rig, then you could go to center steering like a McLaren F1.

Or have them custom build you a huge bench seat? :idea:

You guys are killing what to this point has been the most serious of build threads. People may unsubscribe because of you two. :action-smiley-027:

Today was another demo day. I took out about 40lbs of stock AC/heater. 39" that seems excessively large.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...ps6d73e259.jpg

BEhind all that I found some clean rust free firewall. Whew... It's always scary digging into a portion of a 44+ year old car. You never know what horrors you may find. I dodged another bullet.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...ps24f175f2.jpg

I also spent some time mapping out the location for my dry sump tank. Here is the hillbilly template in action. And the tank in case you following at home have forgotten what it looks like.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...pse4b4f6dd.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...a/ALMStank.jpg

:popcorn2:

Flash68 02-17-2013 08:39 PM

Dang that tank is huge. A Betsy sized tank for a Betsy sized car. Perfect.

Black coated Kirkey seat FTW.

intocarss 02-17-2013 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 465454)



. I may think about Scotts green pads....:idea:

That's better then thinking about Tuckers Toodles (see Norwood thread) :offtopic:

Sieg 02-17-2013 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 465454)
I'm all over powdercoating it satin black that is the plan. I may think about Scotts green pads....:idea:

The right design, stitching color, accent panel color & texture, grommets that tie in with other interior metals or satin black powder coat, and a custom FE Torino logo could make for some real nice deck chair pads. :D

These are awesome but you can design your own completely set.
http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/20/2.jpg

:thumbsup:

FETorino 02-17-2013 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 465458)
That's better then thinking about Tuckers Toodles (see Norwood thread) :offtopic:

Ouch, can't comment on Tucker wipe out.:eek:

Quote:

Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 465167)

I'm going Kirkey for both form and function. I want something that gives it a Nascar vibe but is functional. When Brett did his pads in the 33 it really got me thinking of doing something similar but a little different. I figure black, a little thinner, with parallel eyelets ala GT40. When I saw Troy's Torino he did for Poteet I was sold on the idea. Yea the fact that Brian H used them in his Corvette and his 73 didn't discourage me either.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 465465)
The right design, stitching color, accent panel color & texture, grommets that tie in with other interior metals or satin black powder coat, and a custom FE Torino logo could make for some real nice deck chair pads. :D

These are awesome but you can design your own completely set.
http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/20/2.jpg

:thumbsup:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...pscb979f54.jpg


Like I said a combo of the two will be where I land. :bitchslap:

I tired to talk Matt out of using his GT seats in the 65 but he wisely kept them for his project.:)

Sieg 02-18-2013 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 465475)
I tired to talk Matt out of using his GT seats in the 65 but he wisely kept them for his project.:)

Any Joe can get GT seats and stuff them into a Torino. :bitchslap:

Make it a personalized adventure similar to the taking delivery from RS trip...........memorable. :D

torino420 02-18-2013 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 465454)
Thanks for the heads up but I think your buddies problem has everything to do with his pedals and little to do with the linkage. The stock pedal design doesn't fair to well after decades of use with a heavy clutch. The metal shaft swinging in the metal hander with only a thin delrin bushing results in an oval hole over time and a pedal that no longer swings in one vertical plane. The side loading on the MD linkage looks to me to be his pedal rocking in the hanger.

Now in mine I took my pedals and pressed on some sealed bearings on the shaft and tacked in a couple of races on the hanger to hold the bearings. My pedals only swing front to back not side to side. The plane the pedals move in is aligned with the throw of the master. The pivot point on the MD linkage is at the bottom and the actuation rod for the master in the middle. The top is the pedal only moving fwd and back in a plane that bisects the master and the path of its piston. I don't think the bottom can chart a different path in my scenario. Ask your buddy if he can rock his pedals side to side, I bet he can. The only way to do that with mine is with a sledge or something else that can bend the hanger.

Good point, The 4 speed pedal setup I bought was so thrashed I converted mine to the roller bearing setup too when I swapped to the 5 speed and hydraulic clutch. I'll run this by him.

67XR7 02-18-2013 05:47 PM

I used the scott drake roller bearing kit for my car when going to stick and have no regrets!!

G4CERAT 02-24-2013 12:56 AM

Luv the Build
 
I love the RS frames, not to mention the kind of work they do. I wish I would have went with their frame but I don't think it was available in '05 -'06 for the second gen. Baddass man..you are lucky! Looks sic so far.....:thumbsup:

Flash68 03-03-2013 10:14 PM

You workin on the Forino or the Bronco these days? :getout:

FETorino 03-03-2013 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 468382)
You workin on the Forino or the Bronco these days? :getout:

Neither this weekend. Had a childhood friend in town from NZ for a couple days then took my wife to Cavalia today.:rolleyes:

Back on the cars next weekend.

intocarss 03-09-2013 03:43 PM

Rob out testing :relax:


GregWeld 03-09-2013 03:47 PM

Love the stance.... and... I guess it beats that box of parts (box of rocks?) Ford striped Camaro... ?:action-smiley-027: :lol:

FETorino 03-09-2013 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 469590)
Rob out testing :relax:


Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 469592)
Love the stance.... and... I guess it beats that box of parts (box of rocks?) Ford striped Camaro... ?:action-smiley-027: :lol:

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

You don't even know how funny that is. When I bought my car it had centerlines with about an inch of backspace, air shocks on it and sat about like that. Maybe it was that guys previous car.

I only wish I had a picture to post.

intocarss 03-09-2013 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 469647)
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

You don't even know how funny that is. When I bought my car it had centerlines with about an inch of backspace, air shocks on it and sat about like that. Maybe it was that guys previous car.

I only wish I had a picture to post.

So you admit that's you!!! I KNEW IT!

Vegas69 03-09-2013 10:18 PM

Different strokes for different folks. He's having more fun with his than you are right now. :D

I've given you a hard time but I'm looking forward to your results and hope you wipe up some of these Camaros.

Matt@BOS 03-10-2013 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 469649)
Different strokes for different folks. He's having more fun with his than you are right now. :D

I've given you a hard time but I'm looking forward to your results and hope you wipe up some of these Camaros.

Those cars would have to be running first. Maybe I should rephrase that to those cars would need to run.

FETorino 03-10-2013 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 469690)
Those cars would have to be running first. Maybe I should rephrase that to those cars would need to run.

Oh that Smurf Camaro runs just fine.:D It just got an OUSCI invite so it would be the one in the crosshairs :lol:

Make good use of your head start and keep racking up that seat time, word on the street is you are becoming quite the driver.:thumbsup:

Congratulations again on the Optima deal, looking forward to seeing if the Smurf LS really is faster than the Sideoiler. :popcorn2:

Matt@BOS 03-10-2013 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 469702)
Oh that Smurf Camaro runs just fine.:D It just got an OUSCI invite so it would be the one in the crosshairs :lol:

Make good use of your head start and keep racking up that seat time, word on the street is you are becoming quite the driver.:thumbsup:

Congratulations again on the Optima deal, looking forward to seeing if the Smurf LS really is faster than the Sideoiler. :popcorn2:

You do realize that Camaro of mine isn't known as one of the fast Chevys, right?

...Oh, right, you must just be realistic about your goals with that Ford.

Flash68 03-10-2013 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 469649)

I've given you a hard time but I'm looking forward to your results and hope you wipe up some of these Camaros.

I've given him a hard time as well and I hope he doesn't wipe up any of the Camaros. Not a one. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 469690)
Those cars would have to be running first. Maybe I should rephrase that to those cars would need to run.

Yeah Ron sure is slacking. I agree. :peepwall:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 469735)
You do realize that Camaro of mine isn't known as one of the fast Chevys, right?

Oh man how that's rich. :smiley_smack:

Ron in SoCal 03-10-2013 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 469690)
Those cars would have to be running first. Maybe I should rephrase that to those cars would need to run.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 469740)
Yeah Ron sure is slacking. I agree. :peepwall:

Yeah-ha!. As long as mine runs in my car before yours and Rob's I'm safe here...:incoming:

FETorino 03-10-2013 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 469735)
You do realize that Camaro of mine isn't known as one of the fast Chevys, right?

...Oh, right, you must just be realistic about your goals with that Ford.

I just figured I'd start with the low hanging fruit. :bitchslap:

You aren't tearing into that SEMA design award winner just for style point are you? With all that talk about your mighty little 454 LS chassis dyno numbers I figured yours should be sorta fast :action-smiley-027:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 469794)
Yeah-ha!. As long as mine runs in my car before yours and Rob's I'm safe here...:incoming:

I think you are way safe there buddy. In fact I'd bet you have yours running in the car before somebody does a dyno run. :rolleyes:

I'm heading to CO to pick up my motor next Fri so all the parts are converging.

:cheers:

Ron in SoCal 03-10-2013 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 469796)
I'm heading to CO to pick up my motor next Fri so all the parts are converging.

:cheers:

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

FETorino 03-17-2013 08:43 PM

After this weeks errands my motor and chassis now reside at the same address. :RunninDog:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...ps806017a0.jpg

intocarss 03-17-2013 10:09 PM

That's got to be a great feeling Congrats on getting it home :)

Didn't know you live on a farm :walkingdog:

waynieZ 03-17-2013 10:14 PM

Sweet !

E.rodz 03-18-2013 07:28 PM

so being as the motor and the car are in the same place does this mean you are going to start giving us more update picts.??:poke: looks like you might be driving the car this summer? keep plugging away it will get done sooner or later.

Ripped 03-18-2013 07:34 PM

Niiiicce !

Flash68 03-18-2013 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E.rodz (Post 470983)
so being as the motor and the car are in the same place does this mean you are going to start giving us more update picts.??:poke: looks like you might be driving the car this summer? keep plugging away it will get done sooner or later.

Yeah Rob, make it happen and start driving that sucker. :RunninDog:

windycitychev 03-20-2013 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 471009)
Yeah Rob, make it happen and start driving that sucker. :RunninDog:

I am loving this build have been through the entire thread all morning long finally finished it nice work day so far lol. Going to be a swear car when done and is it getting close to being done and keep the pics coming

67zo6Camaro 03-20-2013 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 470937)
After this weeks errands my motor and chassis now reside at the same address. :RunninDog:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...ps806017a0.jpg

Just wondering why the motor you selected is so small? I see you have a big truck. I would have thought the same of your motor selection. lol :mock:


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