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GregWeld 05-14-2011 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 89 RS (Post 347935)
Greg, That '32 is freakin' awesome! An average person might not think it, but looking at the before and after pictures is night and day difference in the transformation. I would love to own a rod like that. :thumbsup:

Thanks Corey!

I love the looks... but beauty is only skin deep. I'll get it all sorted out. It did completely CHANGE the look and style of the car and I'm happy with the "looks". :cheers:

GregWeld 05-14-2011 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mexMan (Post 347925)
Wait... if you have the lakester sidepipes, how come you've got a central pipe?


There is an under car exhaust that comes off the lake style header - most of the off the shelf stuff you see the exhaust run off the bottom of the collector and goes down OUTSIDE the frame and then back underneath.

TIM BRUNING (our MISTER Tim Bruning) built this so the exhaust goes off the collector and INSIDE the frame and then runs back so you don't see it. Super sweet idea and execution on his part!

fleet 05-14-2011 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 347988)
It sounds one hell of a lot better now that I ran the rack on it.... I picked up a sound in the exhaust note (don't ask me how I hear it - it's just "experience" I guess) that said valve adjustment....

Ran the rack this morning --- the note is "solid" now... without the "backwash" hiccups I picked up on. :willy: :willy: :woot:

Greg,

Sorry to read about all the trouble you've had with the car. :rolleyes:

I know you've improved how its running, but it still had a nice, different sound to it, likely due to the unique exhaust. If I didn't know it was a sbc Chevy, I doubt I would've been able to guess what motor was in the deuce ... and I like that.

waynieZ 05-14-2011 09:38 PM

Sorry to hear about all the problems with the car. I was hoping (For you ) the problems from the first day would be the only ones. I hope the weather holds out for you and you get to enjoy it some. I wish you would drive that as you call it POS Nomad to New York so I could drive down and see it. lol I hope it goes better tomorrow.

camcojb 05-14-2011 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 347987)
Not if it's raining buddy! If we go - which means we're getting up and leaving the hotel at 6 AM IF it's not spritzin.... if it's spritzin' we'll decide if we all want to pile into my Nomad and just take it --- and if it's really raining - we're heading to VEGAS.....

The car drives great - but I have many other stories to tell when this saga plays out. This morning at 6 AM I adjusted the valves out in the IHOP parking lot... I have intermittent brake lights - I can't get into the trunk half the time - I have water leaks - I have gear grease puking onto the fancy friggin' exhaust... sometimes it starts - sometimes not. I've had to have it towed off HWY 101 (thanks for AAA) and back to the trailer parking so I could repair the wire that came off (terminal broke off because the wire was too tight) the alternator... and I've had to rewire the MSD and get that wiring all away from the ECU bundle. Funny -- I told SAR -- "DO NOT" place the MSD anywhere near the ECU. Great! They put the ECU under the dash - and the MSD under the seat... fine.... then they BUNDLED all the wiring in one loom. The car wouldn't run - it crapped and backfired and did all manor of ill mannered things. NOTE TO FUTURE EFI PEOPLE.... DO NOT RUN THE COIL LEADS FROM THE MSD ANYWHERE NEAR THE ECU OR IT'S WIRING!! How stupid.... Why would you relocate the brain boxes only to bundle their associated wiring.

I now know why I have a shop in my own backyard... because (sorry "pros") most of the supposed "shops" don't know diddly about nuttin'!

Can you tell I'm pissed? :woot:

I'm a greaser - not a waxer.... all the fancy chrome in the world doesn't mean squat to me if the car is dead on the side of the road! Take your chrome and shove it! Give me a dead solid reliable car any day. My Nomad has far more extensive electronics and systems in it - I did it ALL myself - and thank god - because it's down here (brother in law drug it down) and it's been the parts chase car... and the come get me off the freeway car... and it starts - drives great - runs better - the brake lights work - the headlights work... it doesn't rattle... and I'd drive the POS to NYC and back tomorrow. It was BUILT RIGHT! Attention to "circuits" in electricity - grounds - and +'s are EQUALLY important... Don't even get me started about the nightmare wiring in the '32 that was just "done" and then "Re-done" because I bitched about what I saw. Guess what... I'm not sure they'll get the chance to re-do the re-do.

this whole deal is a "character builder"........... and you are definitely a "character". :lol: Typical new car bugs, they all have them. Glad you're getting it all sorted out, sorry there's so many, but I think it'll be a great car once sorted. I need to figure out if I can actually fit in one, because I love the look.

89 RS 05-15-2011 01:55 AM

Damn Greg, Sorry to hear about the issues you have found. I'm sure you will get it straightened out, just don't severely hurt anyone.:_paranoid

GregWeld 05-15-2011 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by camcojb (Post 347998)
this whole deal is a "character builder"........... and you are definitely a "character". :lol: Typical new car bugs, they all have them. Glad you're getting it all sorted out, sorry there's so many, but I think it'll be a great car once sorted. I need to figure out if I can actually fit in one, because I love the look.


Jody,

I've had lots and lots of cars.... but this little POS is the most fun car I've ever owned (despite the stupid "mistakes" SAR built into the car). It's a friggin little rocket ship... handles like a go kart with suspension... sounds bad ass... has gears to row...

My brother in law is 6' 4".... and he fits in it. Not sure if the plastic surgeon can get those teeth marks out of his knees though. They might buff out. :cheers:


HUGE -- JUST HUGE -- difference in this car than "normal" '32 Fords.... these little POS NEED the suspension - i.e., the Kugel (or other) IRS and IFS really really changes how these light weight - ultra short... cars ride. The ride on this car is awesome!

HWY Nova 05-15-2011 09:04 AM

Greg,

Well, it did rain last night but it is clear now.... a few clouds, but clear. I live "over the hill" in Santa Ynez, and it looks decent outside here.

I plan to be at the show by noon....... Hopefully I can catch up with you.


--Eric

Blake Foster 05-15-2011 09:45 AM

Deep Breath.................. and out..................

i guess you need to debug it at some point. that is why i don't let the customer take his car till after a test drive, sorry Greg

:willy:

Vegas69 05-15-2011 10:10 AM

Not impressed, there is a lot to be said for well thought out systems and the "Engineering". Looks and sounds killer. A few bugs are expected. That seems extreme for a pro shop, though.

You know the old saying, "If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself".

RECOVERY ROOM 05-15-2011 01:15 PM

WOW :wow:

john royal 05-15-2011 02:21 PM

When building a car there are tons of things to think about. Not all can be forseen. Before we tell the customer we are ready foe him to come drive it we drive it for about a week or till everything is fixed. We try our best to use what we learned on the last car and make the next one better. Sorry your having so many problems. I've been there.

HWY Nova 05-15-2011 06:14 PM

Look what I saw today in Santa Barbara:
http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n...a/P1010003.jpg

http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n...a/P1010002.jpg

Beautiful car!


--Eric

waynieZ 05-15-2011 06:35 PM

It sure does look sweet!

HWY Nova 05-15-2011 07:13 PM

Here are two more:

http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n...P1010004-1.jpg

http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n...a/P1010005.jpg


The car sat unattended, soooooo I decided to sit in it! Real attention getter!!! It was great..... I got out after about 30 minutes or so.

Pics are nice but an AWESOME car in person.



--Eric

Musclerodz 05-15-2011 10:38 PM

Looks great Greg. Sorry to hear about the issues. All cars seem to have some, but other can be avoided. I always seem to lose my a$$ on finishing one. I never plan enough hours no matter how many times I double the time I expect it too take. Deveil is in the details and makes all the difference in the world to the customer.

SBDave 05-16-2011 10:09 AM

Nice to meet you Greg, car looked amazing!
Dave

HWY Nova 05-16-2011 10:23 AM

Sounds like Greg may have other vehicle issues...... (he sure is quiet).


--Eric

96z28ss 05-16-2011 11:25 AM

He is having a bunch of issues. For the money he spent on this car, he shouldn't have any issues. On the flip side SAR should of test drove and de-bugged some of the issues.
He is probably quiet cause he is back on the road (trailering) heading to his next destination.

HWY Nova 05-16-2011 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 96z28ss (Post 348228)
He is probably quiet cause he is back on the road (trailering) heading to his next destination.

Actually....... He is having "unscheduled" service work done on his truck in Santa Maria, CA..... but at least they had what he needed in-stock!!!

I know Greg will chime in soon.


--Eric

Boss 5.0 05-16-2011 04:43 PM

So did he get a "pick"? I noticed the sticker on the front headlight.

tones2SS 05-16-2011 05:13 PM

Greg, that car looks great. Hopefully all the issues can be sorted out so you can enjoy that bad boy!
GOOD LUCK!:thumbsup:

GregWeld 05-18-2011 07:55 AM

Thanks for the pics Eric! We had a nice lunch at Chases Bar and Grill there on State St.... wish you could have joined us! It's "old Santa Barbara Eye Talion" with photos of Frank Sinatra on the walls etc.

Okay --- So the truck took a dump leaving Sunday afternoon up Hwy 101 -- so I made a hasty decision to stop at Santa Maria where there was a Ford dealership. Monday AM they replaced some "module" for $1100 and I was back running and gunning. It is an '06 with 82,000 miles of towing on the clock. There is 1900 HOURS on the motor - do the math - that's an AVERAGE of 43 MPH for the entire 1900 hours. Eventually something has to break. It didn't leave me F O R D on the road but I had NO power... even on the flat it was wheezing. We stopped Monday night in Willows and then made our way to Portland (home of SAR) where I dropped the car last night.

To those that have posted about debugging.....

Trust me when I tell you this ain't my first goat rodeo. Debugging is normal and acceptable... but it is NOT normal and or acceptable when the problems are caused by just plain old stupid. I know the difference. The stuff I'm really hacked off about is not "oops".... It's AMATEUR HOUR.

They WILL fix it - and there is no issue that way. This is a good top notch shop and I've never doubted that it will be made to be PERFECT.

The car at the show (a real average bunch of cars in my opinion but a GREAT TOWN)... was built by The Roadster Shop.... and it deserved the Best of Show trophy... and it also kicked our butts in the roadster class. My hat is off to Phil et al.

kennyd 05-18-2011 08:08 AM

the only question i have is , you spent all this money and time building a great looking car . 200 hrs or more in the frame work , 100 hrs in the chin spoiler , 300 hrs in the special cast ends and gadgets ,150 hrs in the paint on the chassis , 3500 in wheels ,200 hrs in the exhaust ........... and you did not polish the f*$cin heads ? WTF ? lol

GregWeld 05-18-2011 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kennyd (Post 348625)
the only question i have is , you spent all this money and time building a great looking car . 200 hrs or more in the frame work , 100 hrs in the chin spoiler , 300 hrs in the special cast ends and gadgets ,150 hrs in the paint on the chassis , 3500 in wheels ,200 hrs in the exhaust ........... and you did not polish the f*$cin heads ? WTF ? lol


Kenny -- Even the best of us can f**** up once in awhile. The heads will be painted.

SAR had them all taped up when they were to paint the motor and I yelled at them to NOT paint my aluminum heads.... but of course -- on THIS item they were right on and I'm the idiot.

BTW -- you're hourly estimates are WAY WAY LOW.

GregWeld 05-18-2011 05:32 PM

Okay --- Here's a couple more photos now that I had a few minutes "alone with the car"...:rofl:



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/DSC_7952.jpg



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/DSC_7961.jpg



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/DSC_7960.jpg



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/DSC_7964.jpg



The "idea" behind all the art deco touches to start with...



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/IMG_0468.jpg

GregWeld 05-18-2011 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ccracin (Post 347671)
Greg,

That is absolutely stunning buddy! Very well thought out and executed. Now drive it like you stole it! :thumbsup:


Did!
:woot:

The quick change will be "quickly changed" (by reversing the gear order top to bottom) from the 3:90 to the 4:30 ratio... :unibrow:

ccracin 05-18-2011 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 348755)
Did!
:woot:

The quick change will be "quickly changed" (by reversing the gear order top to bottom) from the 3:90 to the 4:30 ratio... :unibrow:

Sweet, now bring that thing to Columbus. I want to see if I can get my big a.... in it. Rog and I look eye to eye LOL:thumbsup:

At least bring yourself, it's a great time.

waynieZ 05-18-2011 06:42 PM

It looks great Greg. I see that Nomad in the background too. Both are Sweet!

GregWeld 05-18-2011 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kennyd (Post 348625)
the only question i have is , you spent all this money and time building a great looking car . 200 hrs or more in the frame work , 100 hrs in the chin spoiler , 300 hrs in the special cast ends and gadgets ,150 hrs in the paint on the chassis , 3500 in wheels ,200 hrs in the exhaust ........... and you did not polish the f*$cin heads ? WTF ? lol



I've never even looked at the billings --- but a quick look and there's 1500 hours "so far".

Musclerodz 05-18-2011 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 348822)
I've never even looked at the billings --- but a quick look and there's 1500 hours "so far".

damn, can I build your next roadster? :D

GregWeld 05-19-2011 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Musclerodz (Post 348832)
damn, can I build your next roadster? :D



Well.... can you do 'tweaks'? And can you do a few 're-dos'? Cause this wasn't even a full build --- it was just a light remodeling.:wow:

Matt@BOS 05-19-2011 08:36 AM

Turned out amazing Greg!

Are we going to get to see this (and you I suppose) in Pleasanton?

Matt

GregWeld 05-19-2011 08:42 AM

You'd be seeing it if the builder -- AKA S.A.R or Steve's Auto Restoration -- can get their act together and get the long list of "fix it's" done. When I told them I was signed up for that show and asked for it to be done in time -- Steve just shrugged his shoulders and said "it'll be done when it's done".... so at this point.... I'm thinking that means a miracle would be required. They have paint work to do... wiring issues to sort... gear grease to remove.... exhaust work... :faint: :wow:

qbrown 05-19-2011 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 348872)
You'd be seeing it if the builder -- AKA S.A.R or Steve's Auto Restoration -- can get their act together and get the long list of "fix it's" done. When I told them I was signed up for that show and asked for it to be done in time -- Steve just shrugged his shoulders and said "it'll be done when it's done".... so at this point.... I'm thinking that means a miracle would be required. They have paint work to do... wiring issues to sort... gear grease to remove.... exhaust work... :faint: :wow:

Do you think you're having all of these "fix it" issues because they were scrambling to get the car done for the show this past weekend or do you think it is because SAR is used to building show cars and not cars that actually see some driving. I'm just curious as to why a high end builder would let so many things slip by. Car looks great by the way. Also, I just saw that you were located in Bellevue, WA. I was just in Seattle Monday and Tuesday.

HRBS 05-19-2011 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by kennyd (Post 348625)
and you did not polish the f*$cin heads ? WTF ? lol


I too blasted him for that Kenny ! :lol:

rwhite692 05-19-2011 12:43 PM

Looks good GW

Jims78elky 05-19-2011 03:01 PM

Greg,

The 32 looks amazing! Sorry if she gave you a little trouble out there the first run, I think we all have been there with a fresh project out on the 101 freeway,oh the memories..**cue carpenters we only just begun music** The traffic wizzin buy at 80mph,the wife (in the pass seat) bitching about the sky and her hair being windblown,my heart in my chest in fear of being rear ended or worse,and all trying to lay upside down under my dash looking for a blown fuel pump relay fuse with no friggin working flashlight...yep..been right there my friend :faint: lol.

But all kidding aside the 32 looks incredible and I bet she is a hoot to drive! thanks for all the great pictures so far,get those little bugs out,summer is just started!

Oh..I think this would be another nice touch to your 32 engine bay....the one on the left actually.

:unibrow:

http://www.billetspecialties.com/ass...00191-prod.jpg

GregWeld 05-19-2011 05:43 PM

A few emails back and forth today --- the good news... GREAT NEWS actually is that S.A.R. will do whatever it takes to get the '32 done and ready for me to haul to Pleasanton on June 2nd.... SO I WILL BE THERE.

I said they were a good shop.

Sometimes if I see a spider web... and in order to knock it down... I drive a semi through it. :D And I never take a breath!

GregWeld 05-19-2011 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by HRBS (Post 348876)
I too blasted him for that Kenny ! :lol:

Yeah yeah yeah -- yak yak yak.... Eventually I do as I'm told.
:D


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