So there's the whole point. Ron is a PROFESSIONAL... the car will get the brakes that are appropriate. They'll be an improvement. We talked about the rear suspension and his statement was - that would be an improvement but probably not worth the expense... SO what I'm trying to say is -- nobody is more aware than we are of the limitations... or the goals. I'm not putting 315 squares on the car but we will look at what tire can be used. The goal is more fun ----- not proving anything. I enjoy learning - and I enjoy improving... and I like doing. For me personally - there's more to this than just changing the oil and running the car. It's about mechanics - learning what and why we're doing something - limitations - options. The car has no history - it's not a historic car - it's something Jack Mauer built. It's been changed and improved upon. I have no personal history how old any of the parts are - where they came from - how they've been maintained... and this is all a part of what we're doing. Checking the car from top to bottom... improving where it makes sense... making good - better if possible. It is what we all live to do.

I was able to outbrake similar sized cars running 13" brakes and 315\335s with my little 10.5" brakes and 275s at Gateway...and do it more comfortably and securely at the same time. The trick is having everything matched and working in sync with one another, geometry, shocks, springs, brakes, tires, etc...

Enjoy the ride Greg, not only are you going learn a ton but you are also going to get to reap the rewards after with an excellent handling car.

I do agree with Charley on one thing though, once you get it set up...do an event with an instructor in the car that can teach you how to get the most out of what you've got. That's what I've spent most of this year doing, working on the driver instead of the car...and it's really paying off.

Special high grip valving? Hmm, sounds like you've been talking to Maier. He likes to use those technical terms also... LOL

Dang it Ron! I don't want to give these guys ANY info!


Nothing - nada - zip.

Just got off the phone with Mister Bill McAnally the owner of BMR Racing. Talk about a nice guy!! I wished I'd have met him when we dropped the car off... but I will meet him at some point.

He thanked me for my business... He called ME. Not often the owner of a shop like this is going to pick up the phone to call a small time guy like me. I appreciate that kind of "service" and it tells me a lot about the integrity of his business.

He liked the Mustang... and said they were already pulling off measurements and then would pull the motor and get into it to see where we'd be going with that anchor. I'd like to hear it's minor but to be honest - it didn't sound minor... and I was hauling the mail when whatever it was let go.. that usually doesn't work out real well. High RPMS and moving pieces not being where they belong or moving in the manor they're supposed to. HAHAHAHAHAHA. 'Tis what it 'tis.

Better brakes sound great Ron but what was on there are better than most of the old iron at our events and neither Jack or me had problems with them. That car was a Caddilac compared to my other Mustangs, Bigger brakes, power Rack and pinion steering, Jerico 4 speed. It will be interesting to see what let loose in the engine. Actually I should call McAnally and have him weld the door shut just to force the Ewok to climb in and out the window.:stirthepot:

Don't buy Stielow's next build... it has improvements in it. LOL

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Greg I think he jumps on here just to give you sh!t!! :lol:

Yep, that's the long and the short of it.


:walkingdog:

This ain't nuthin' honey --- you should hear the track smack. It's OMG.... relentless.

When he's talkin' -- all I hear is BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Fixed it for ya Skippah.

........pretty sure GW's the first guy to ever be called an Ewok on Lat-G. :sieg:

How 'bout you call him and give him a shipping address where I can return your motor... for a credit. Now we're getting somewhere! LOL

I called Bill and he's got his cell phone waiting for your call.

I like it...but that ain't 'text train friendly'...


:D

Oh great! Now when Big G can't catch me he's got another excuse to use.... can we just make two sets and give him one? Hope Charley doesn't see this.

You and I are running along the same plane only on different planets and it appears you are currently on Fantasy Island :lol:

Just kidding Greg. I'm all for what you are doing for all the reasons you have stated and a good education doesn't always come cheap. I for one am looking forward to next seasons T-Hill and Sonoma events but I'm no different then you are. Don't think that your car is the only one getting a manicure. :unibrow:

You're putting a Ford Mod motor in it huh !!??!!?? ;) :lostmarbles:

You should look into those new self propelled wheel bearings too

Even I wouldn't do that!!








Charley said there's nothing wrong with the ones we already have in there.

By the way ----- I have to put a disclaimer in this thread and make sure everyone that's reading understands the nature of the relationships here. Charley loves me or he wouldn't put a "Weld sucks" icon as his picture... and I kinda sorta like him -- oh hell -- I actually respect him... and we have a blast together at the track etc. Ditto Gaetano...

There is NOTHING WRONG with the Mustang. Nothing. I don't want anyone to read into this that the car isn't sorted or really well squared away and needs some fixing. It is - as Charley says - faster and more capable than most of the cars we run with. I drive it like a baby - because I'm still new at this... and quite frankly -- I don't judge myself or the car by how many people I passed "this session". I really just don't care. I have a sh!t eating grin when I get out of the car every session.

I'm doing the things to the car for a couple reasons:

I want to drive easier and be faster going easier.

I want 1/4 in the Mustang - handling wise - that the little Lotus has.

Unless you've driven something like the Lotus on track you won't really comprehend. That little POS is just a master at handling. That makes it fast(er) because you can just kind of sit back and let it flow.

My driving style is perhaps a little on the "aggressive" side once we get all warmed up and get going.... I have the power to close gaps rather smartly... a couple times almost a little too smartly... and while the brakes are okay (fine) - I'm looking for more of the "tap" and you're hauled down right now. I make a lot of driving mistakes out there... it happens... we aren't doing that many events that you get comfortable. I'd like to make those mistakes a little more forgiving and a little less oh sh!t. I'm ADD (truly) and it's not hard for me to be distracted and throw a late downshift - or go Oh hell... I'm off line... and need to reel it back in. I totally get that I'm not "the Stig".

A car that is more capable than the driver allows for some wiggle room.... which makes it more fun... That's kinda what I'm going for. Some wiggle room for now.... and when the seat time gets more mature... the car will be something that's more than just "fine" but keeping in the confines of what we are doing and the other guys we run with.

Hope that makes sense. :wacko:

You still suck:warning: :lol:

Fine.....

You're just sorry you sold me the car... and you know you want it back. LOL




This car is bad ass folks.... it sounds good - it looks good... and it works fine. I love it or I wouldn't be trying to make it just a little better. I've honestly owned several cars that I drove around the block and sold for a loss (Charley knows our common friend that would verify I've done that and not even gone a full block!)



You can drool all you want to.....





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/IMG_1467.jpg

Agreed........except for that last session.

I thought it was done after the "hook" got installed, man you were just getting warmed up! Everything you guys are doing makes sense, stronger and safer, nothing wrong with that.

Curious still on the motor, it sounds badass but that doesn't mean anything if it's getting parked because of problems.

This thread is better than MavTV and Street Outlaws!:lmao:

Dan

nah... he dishes it regularly so he can sit here and take it in kind. :stirthepot:

That definitely contradicts what Gaetano told me. :sieg:

Man... what a bummer... someone took 2 sets of "big n littles" and put the 4 littles on your car! :bang:

When that kind of stuff happens -- is when I truly think "man I'm glad Gwen earned a good living".... That way it's annoying... but not life ending. LOL






You must have read my MavTV post.... LOL

I've had enough motors -- broken enough motors - that the sounds are usually quite clear. This time - I honestly have no idea...

I want you to know - I thanked you every time I hung the wheel up.








Hey! Didn't your Mother ever teach you - TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT??


Who's Gaetano? It's hard to know what hauling the mail is - if you've never done it..... EEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAA



So here's what I'd love to know. What's the gription of a set of skinny Hoosier A6's compared to a fatter set of 200 TW tires. Would be kind of an interesting test. I would like to think the 245's are pretty sticky by comparison. Maybe Ron has an idea but I doubt it's something his racing days would have dealt with.

Ron: 'We'll tell Charlie we're only making the most minute of changes.'





:thankyou:

I can offer this comparison up... Last season I autocrossed on gently used 275/60/16 Hoosier A6s and this season I autocrossed on 200 TW 275/40/17 Falkens. The tire's overall size were almost exactly the same.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-P...124251_779.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-r...124222_696.jpg

When the Falkens were new, they were very close in grip to the gently used A6s but the car was easier to drive on the Falkens. The Falkens talk to you when the grip is starting to go away, the Hoosier's grip just goes away without warning. The car also felt more stable on the Falkens, but that might have a lot to do with the 40 series sidewall vs the 60 series on the Hoosiers.

They used to say that R Comps were good for a 2-3 second advantage on a 50 second autocross run over Street tires but with the advancements in 200 TW tires as of late, they area much closer than that now.

Thanks Greg...We are very glad that C h a r l i e started this thread.

:D

I figured I would just talk about how nice looking this car is and it looks fast sitting still and I need to see a good side shot of this car as I love the Silver on the yellow.

I want my POS car back.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:


:lol:

Get in line......

Gaetano was GOING TO take a side shot but never got there....



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Oh gawd I crack myself up!

Just curious is that because he was behind you on the track or in front of you ?

All he could see was taillights.



But then again -- we only played that game for about half a lap. All the jousting is just that - jousting.


When people are on track -- and there's 25 to 35 cars out there... of all shapes and sizes from Miatas to McLarens... it's really difficult to be able to go out with your buddies and either find them or stay with them. There's just so much traffic and it only takes one slow car to get in the middle of things and the guy ahead is long gone. We have corner passing restrictions.... so basically like at Sonoma --- once you've hit T2 -- you don't get much of a chance to pass until you're exiting T6.... and then again not until you hit T9 etc. So if the car/driver combo is pretty well matched... then you're hosed if you get behind.

Last time at Thunderhill --- I wanted to run with Chet and Pete.... so kind of waited on them to come into view.... then a couple other cars went by while I was dogging it --- and they went bye and were gone... and I got stuck. On a 2+ mile track with passing zones... it's really pretty tough to pick and choose who you want to run with.

I think Charley should borrow Mayhem and shut the both of you down. :buttkick: