WoooHooo! Did you use your charm and good looks :G-Dub: to get an earlier delivery date?

How much taller is the trailer than the truck? The shots of those trailers look huge!
Very cool Greg,it's getting closer! :thumbsup:

:cheers:
Dan

Don't do that! We want to see the full meal deal. So far it looks incredible! Right down to the TV Charlie will never see. LOL

Dan -- Trailer is 13' 4" tall which IS really what makes these look big. I know guys that have 48' single tall trailers... and they just don't look like these do. These are same height as normal "dry" freight trailers... but they look large because they're built on a drop frame - making more sidewall because they're built lower UNDER the frame.


No on the earlier date! I did do a fair amount of begging.... but it's not going to happen. These guys are B U S Y! NASCAR teams have been ordering the big toters rather than the Prevost buses... and there's some super secret government trailers being built... as in like a dozen of them.







NO!

Cool stuff !!

Okay - this will be hard to do.....


There are only 4 or 5 interior fabric combos to choose from -- so you're pretty limited to their fabric combos. I started with that "base" choice and worked to find floor - counter - backsplash - grout - sofa (Ultra Leather) and carpet.



So the darkest granite sample is the counter top - it's slab.... it will also be used in 4" squares in the backsplash WITH a 2" "drop"(on point) of the floor granite (the lighter brown).

The floor is on the diagonal (the lighter brown) - 12" squares -- with a drop of matte finished beige.... and in the picture you can see the grout sample.

The fabric is ONE of the fabrics that are used for throw pillows etc. and the stained Cherry is the wood - all cabinets and trim etc.



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This is the Floor granite -- and the carpet that is barely any but goes on the floor in the slide out under the sofa -- and is also the whole bedroom.





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...me/file-47.jpg





So this is the counter sample (the darker) with the floor sample - that will be on the floor (main color) and also the 2" drop on point in the backsplash,





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This is the floor -- the darker -- against the grout choice -- and the beige drop "in matte" to contrast with the polished floor....





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...me/file-43.jpg

A little more of the fabric -- which has a blood red in it......





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...me/file-45.jpg

The BLACK trailer is the height -- the tractor in the middle bay is my truck... the windows are at the same height - what makes my truck look smaller (other than it is) is that I don't have the height in the roof like most of the other trucks do.







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And...... before Rodger jumps my ass..... I'll beat him to the punch.


Me changing a flat.....:poke: :lol: :action-smiley-027: :hello:






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When I bought my enclosed trailer I also wrestled with the flooring choice. It was used so I had to go with what the previous owner had bought. :action-smiley-027:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...ps94d142a9.jpg

:lol: ........and you sealed it with 40 wt Valvoline?

:lmao:

Thee, that wasn't so tough huh? :D

Looks good. :thumbsup: Is there a warmer grout color? Reason I ask is that light color over time will show it's age compared to a warmer color. IMO the grout color doesn't really blend with with anything other than the 4" accent tile. If there's a grout color the blends (disappears) with the main floor tile that might look and perform better over time. What color is the ultra leather?

You know -- that's real good advice!



The Ultra leather is a dark brown -- Ultra Leather STEERHIDE



http://www.ultrafabricsllc.com/site/swatches/190

Well.... I think I'm heart broken this morning... but stuff happens while you're having fun sometimes.

The long and short of it is I canceled the trailer order this morning after several emails and phone calls telling me that the Renegade factory has yet to schedule a build date - and that the build date IF I sign off on drawings (that I've been waiting and waiting for weeks to get) might get scheduled July 29th and I'd be 12 to 16 weeks out from there.

All of this time I was working on a delivery date of June! They haven't even slotted a build date!

I signed basic - and I mean the most very basic (as posted here earlier) weeks ago... and I requested more detailed drawings for review.... it was back then that I was told June delivery date. In the meantime I was working under the ASSumption that we were just drilling down on details such as flooring choices - fabrics - and minor details etc.

After several emails requesting more detailed drawings -- and being given many excuses as to why they aren't done (illness etc)... I'm now told that they don't have the expertise to produce the drawings and that there's no build date unless I sign off on what I have! A two year old could draw the basic shapes I have.... and I'm supposed to commit to taking a $400,000 totally custom built trailer based on this. Oh and by the way --- I'm now months out as well --- another missed summer --- because of their inabilities.

I could actually work with the basic drawings --- given a large stretch of "trust" that they build a good product and we can figure stuff out as we go.... but the move of the build date is just the last straw. That infuriates me. Mind you -- I gave the dealer a $150,000 deposit LAST JUNE.

Charley will just have to watch TV from the little 12V cigarette lighter version I'll buy at Camper World... :bang: : :rolleyes:

Greg, I am very sorry to hear that, as I think we all are sorry. Time to start the search again?

Well that sucks.
Just call your buddy Mark and get this trailer. Its almost what you wanted.
Just build the front section into a living quarter. If you start now, You could have it done by June.
http://www.nwhouseofhardtops.com/07f...08renegade.htm

Sorry for the Heartaches

Greg, have you looked at T&E Trailers? http://www.tande-racetrailers.com/tr...r/stacker.html

I've been working on this whole idea for almost 2 years now. Never thought it would be so hard to get something that should be pretty straight forward. It really isn't complicated. What complicates the entire thing is that I want really high end interior (and exterior) --- and what's out there is "race stuff".... i.e., really basic oak cabinets and vinyl flooring etc. Many of the trailer builders only build trailers -- then they sub out to someone else to build the interiors. Renegade / IKON build all in house --- exactly what I'm looking for. The problem is that they're running on such a skeleton crew that you just go for weeks and weeks waiting on answers to simple questions.... all the while pushing out the build dates. They are NOT waiting on me! I'm waiting on them!

I'm okay with just bagging the whole idea. I'm busy building a new custom home in Sun Valley -- and that's a two year process... and will be a complicated build/design.... so not having to juggle both will be fine with me for now. I've been dragging my little 24' trailer around for a long time now - and it "works".

Dang it man, sorry to hear this.

:idea:
If it would help I can bolt the wheels back on my house, we could put a door on the end and you could park in the living room. Not as much square footage and no flat screens but it'll get you down the road. :lol:

:cheers:
Dan

Ta Dah! Complete with a penthouse for Charlie.

http://whitetrashrepairs.com/wp-cont...12/06/6424.jpg

Awesome! I think we might be able to make this work!!! See Sieg's idea below.

How about Featherlite Greg? They seem to do nice stuff! Sorry to hear this, I was hoping to catch some of my favorite shows when you hit Columbus with it. Guess we'll just have to "Go Out" for a steak!

My buddy just had a custom Featherlite done -- with room for a hot rod and a side door ramp for his Harley....

The interior in that trailer is just absolute crap. The trailer is nice - if you're in love with rivets.... But I'm not a fan. Mind you -- I'm sure they can build whatever a customer is willing to pay for - but the $77K he spent... I'd have rather tossed it in the wind.

5150 may have potential. Based on their gooseneck trailers and motorhome interiors they may be able/willing to do a custom living quarter gooseneck.

http://www.5150racetrailers.com/

Another option would be the custom coach builder in my neighborhood, Marathon. I've seen big tag trailers at their site and their interior work is pretty good. Possibly sub the interior out to them?

http://www.marathoncoach.com/index.cfm

Yeah, sub it out to one of the luxo moto coach builders! Newell, Tiffin, Marathon, Gulf Stream (yes that one), etc. It'll make for a better trailer, and a better conversation piece!

Edit: lemme add Newmar, Powerhouse to that list

Maybe we're just shopping on the wrong continent:

http://www.zercustoms.com/news/image...otorhome-3.jpg

http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/articles/images/415_5.jpg

http://www.futuria.net/en/index.php?page=840




Clill says he'll be fine outside:

http://www.instablogsimages.com/imag...ravan_6_52.jpg

I think there's just something wrong with me..... Here's how I shop....


I tell someone up front --- If I tell you that you have "good, better, and best" I'm going to ask you what you have better than that.

Then once we're working on an order... or a contract... and you tell me you need 25K (for instance) up front... I'll tell you I'll give you 50K up front. Just so you know I'm a for real buyer.

I'm very easy to please - as long as you understand that all I'm asking for is the very best you have - and to please bring me ideas... I love it when someone says -- "hey! You know what would really be kool!".... Or says... well this is the way we normally do something - but if you want my opinion I'd do it "X" way because it only costs "X" more but it's a way better way to do it.

Apparently I just don't communicate very well.:getout:

http://www.nwhouseofhardtops.com/IMA...enegade003.gif

Is this what you mean about no rivets down the side?

Steven - We all know the hot tub and the chick would add way too much maintenance to the package. :D

I got smacked by my wife last night when I said cars before girls but at this level looks like it might be a tie :relax:

Greg, bummed out for ya. I guess it even happens to people who are willing to fork out the dough. You know, I think your situation would piss me off even more than your average budget minded individual. It brings up the question, WHAT'S A PERSON GOTTADO TO GET A CUSTOM QUALITY PRODUCT!:hairpullout: I was looking forward to this one but know you'll end up w/a satisfying product from someone. Good luck my friend :grouphug:

That is such a bummer... sorry Greggers.

Yes ---- and that's the standard Renegade sides --- I was having mine sanding and fared - and two coats of paint so would have no "print through" and be high gloss.





I WILL get something -- even if it's a temporary diversion. And I agree --- I don't know what I have to do to just buy something. This same factory was working on a 22' IKON toterhome -- and stacker gooseneck for me -- we're talking $750,000 rig -- the very top of the line Freightliner Cascadia tractor with the 600 hp Cummins.... It took them MONTHS -- and then after everything is agreed on - money sent etc -- they came back and said "we can't build it because it's too heavy on the front axle".... I'm like REALLY? Do you people not have a friggin' clue what you're doing? The fix was to go with a larger 28' motor coach -- and TAG trailer --- which I had specifically told them earlier I did NOT want.... and that I was trying to keep the overall length within state limits! <75'>









I'm only bummed that these guys have wasted so much of my time....

I just don't get it. You are the kind of customer I would DREAM of having, and they just piss it away. Makes no sense.

Ya know Jody -- Seriously -- I am a dream customer. SAR - which should stand for Stupid Ass Retards - worked the entire build of the '32 with funds UP FRONT without once ever having to ask me for a reload. Who does that? Me... because I understood that it was "tough" out there and I figured I'm going to have to pay for the stupid little car no matter what - so big deal if I'm 30 days ahead of the game. Big whoop.

Brizio has been working now for several months - billing against the funds I wired him this summer.... and he's nowhere close to being out of money. The entire build was discussed - motor - tranny - color - interior - stance - looks - everything UP FRONT.... They're not waiting on me for a single thing. They know exactly what I want - they have funds to buy all the parts - body - frame - motor - everything.... way before they need it. How easy is that? I trust them. I know what I want - I communicate it - and let them rock and roll.

I don't ask for a discount for cash - I don't ask them for interest on my money - I only ask that they hurry up because I'm like a little kid waiting for Christmas morning.

This is why I say "it must just be me". SAR screwed the pooch.... cost them the next build.... the trailer guys (Renegade) have now blown through TWO builds and got neither of them. Little wonder business is tough! It's hard enough when you do everything right - let alone when you're stupid enough to blow through the easy customers! UGH!

To me it's much easier (and more successful) to keep your customers happy and get the rewards of that relationship, plus the additional business they bring because they're happy and spread the word, than to not take care of your customers and constantly battle to replace the ones you lose so you stay in business. As hard as it can be to develop a good customer it baffles me that so many companies just don't seem to care about keeping them.

Sadly the 80/20 rule applies to your common sense and logic. Unbelievable isn't it.

I've been buying cars from one dealer here in Seattle since 1976.... I'm on #9 now... It's really not hard to keep customers. Treat them with respect... do what you say you're going to do... be honest when things aren't going as they should.

When I was the factory Rep for Brown Jordan... I treated every customer as if we were partners. The better they did - the better I'd do. After all... I was a commissioned rep... so I got a percentage of everything. I could write one order and feed them full of crap - and make nothing from then on... Or I could help grow their business - which would in turn - grow mine.

Not really rocket science.