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214Chevy 08-29-2014 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 567897)


CLASSIC!! ...(and this gentlemen, is Mr. Stielow hard at work.)
:flashie: :flashie: :flashie: :flashie::flashie: :flashie: :flashie: :flashie:

dontlifttoshift 08-29-2014 01:29 PM

Mark, that's a lot of progress in a week.

Since you're pumping transmission fluid anyways, and reason to add or not add a filter inline?

Van B 08-30-2014 07:11 AM

Is that brake ducting in the end of the frame rails, or? Awesome execution all around.

Sieg 08-30-2014 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Van B (Post 568068)
Is that brake ducting in the end of the frame rails

Good eyes :thumbsup:

Flash68 08-30-2014 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Van B (Post 568068)
Is that brake ducting in the end of the frame rails, or?

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 568073)
Good eyes :thumbsup:

and/or good memory. :D

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Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 537676)
Oh yes we are using the DSE Hydraformed rails for brake cooling ducts. I need to be more careful on the pictures I post....

Matt opened up the rail and capped off internally and added a curved piece to turn the air. 18 X 11 wheel no problems lock to lock. :idea:

With the Anvil lower front valance it is wide open for brake ducts. We squared off the end of the frame rail and removed all the bumper bracket holes. Then added front duct that pull of the opening in the lower valance.

Now that you guys figured that I can post the rest of the pictures when I find them.

With Carbon Ceramic Brakes you need a lot of air flow to cool the brakes. Especially when you are making 875 HP. They don't have much thermal mass so much the cooling needs to be by air flow.

Mark


tom091074 08-30-2014 10:59 PM

Mark, what's the plan for the brake cooling duct from the frame to the rotors?

LS7 Z/28 08-30-2014 11:17 PM

Mark are you using -12 for both the feed and scavenge lines to the Peterson tank? Looking at their part numbers it's confusing because they have a -16 port for their LS7 pan adapter?

615-08-0502 -12X-12
615-08-0503 -16X-12 ???

Stielow 08-31-2014 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by tom091074 (Post 568137)
Mark, what's the plan for the brake cooling duct from the frame to the rotors?

I'm not sure yet. Still need to see how it rest of it packages.

Mark

tom091074 08-31-2014 11:00 AM

I'll stay turned either way. :confused59: love your builds!

GRob 08-31-2014 12:55 PM

Mark, as always your build is impeccable.

Will you be using Brembo's CCM-R brakes which appear to be their aftermarket carbon brake offering or will you be adopting the OEM Z-28 brakes to your application?

Stielow 09-02-2014 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Valve Lash (Post 568138)
Mark are you using -12 for both the feed and scavenge lines to the Peterson tank? Looking at their part numbers it's confusing because they have a -16 port for their LS7 pan adapter?

615-08-0502 -12X-12
615-08-0503 -16X-12 ???

I like using a -16 to feed the engine and a -12 to return to the tank. It maybe over kill but it adds oil volume to the system and seem directionally correct.

Mark

LS7 Z/28 09-02-2014 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 568405)
I like using a -16 to feed the engine and a -12 to return to the tank. It maybe over kill but it adds oil volume to the system and seem directionally correct.

Mark

Thank you Mark. So you are running the larger -16 line but your aren't modifying the tank and the LS7 pan... You are reducing from -16 down to -12 at the both connections of the feed line?

cjfirstgen 09-02-2014 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 567897)
This a GT500 throw out bearing with a quick connect. The GT500 CSC has more travel and a smaller effective piston area so it will stroke farther.


Hmmm...so I will be running a Tilton 7/8" mstr cyl and was planning on running a Tilton 6000 series TOB. Would this GT500 TOB be the way to go on a T56 Magnum?

Stielow 09-02-2014 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GRob (Post 568181)
Mark, as always your build is impeccable.

Will you be using Brembo's CCM-R brakes which appear to be their aftermarket carbon brake offering or will you be adopting the OEM Z-28 brakes to your application?

I'm running the production Corvette ZR-1 CCM brakes with Bosch ABS ECBM. We ran CCMs on Jackass and they work great, just a bit challanging on the track to keep from locking a tire when they are hot. They go up in output as they get hotter.

Mark

Stielow 09-02-2014 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Valve Lash (Post 568409)
Thank you Mark. So you are running the larger -16 line but your aren't modifying the tank and the LS7 pan... You are reducing from -16 down to -12 at the both connections of the feed line?

We have a Peterson tank with a -16 output and the oil pan is stock LS7 so it does neck down at the pan.

Mark

Stielow 09-02-2014 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cjfirstgen (Post 568450)
Hmmm...so I will be running a Tilton 7/8" mstr cyl and was planning on running a Tilton 6000 series TOB. Would this GT500 TOB be the way to go on a T56 Magnum?

The OE CSC (Concentric Slave Cylinders) self-adjust as the clutch wears. The "race" stuff needs to be set and as the clutch wears the pickup point moves. Well that is how it was explaned to me by one of the guys who designed this stuff.

So far the pedal efforts for my set up feels great. I bench bled my CSC and my master cylender before I installed them so it worked right are without a bleed.

Mark

LS7 Z/28 09-02-2014 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 568457)
We have a Peterson tank with a -16 output and the oil pan is stock LS7 so it does neck down at the pan.

Mark

Thank you Mark

SlowProgress 09-02-2014 08:20 PM

Clutch Choice and coolant loop
 
Mark when you get a chance please post up the thought process behind the Centerforce clutch over the LS9 clutch you were planning earlier.
Also, any photos of the liquid coolant loop routing would be appreciated.

Thanks for all the useful information!!

Stielow 09-03-2014 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SlowProgress (Post 568516)
Mark when you get a chance please post up the thought process behind the Centerforce clutch over the LS9 clutch you were planning earlier.
Also, any photos of the liquid coolant loop routing would be appreciated.

Thanks for all the useful information!!

The LS9 clutch works great up to about 825 ft*lbs TQ. I was on the edge of capacity of that clutch in Red Devil and Mayhem. If you slipped (Got real hot) the LS9 clutch its high RPM reserve (Not fully releasing) was reduced. You would notice this on WOT 2-3s and 3-4s. The Centerforce will hold 1300 ft*lbs. Per Will Baty at Centerforce it will work fine with the F-body CSC but it will have better life with the GT500 Mustang CSC. It took a bit of digging but I found the GT500 part has less effective piston area so for the same master displacement it should stroke farther at the trade off a bit more pedal effort. I made my own Swedgelok quick disconnects and bench bled the system before I installed it. I'll try to take some pictures tonight. The pedal efforts seem correct to me about 35 lbs. On the high side for an OE application but good for a 957 HP Hot Rod. Statically testing it the pickup point seems correct so far I'm happy with it. Randy Johnson and Chris Smith let me drive there cars and the low speed drivabilty of the DYAD seems good. The true test come at the track.

Mark

Stielow 09-03-2014 04:47 AM

We made a lot of progress over the weekend. My buddy Ryan Kuhlenbeck was back in town to help with the wiring. Intergrating the new Bosch ABS was not trivial. We finished the whole front engine bay harness. I have started on all the soft lines and I'm about half done. Jeesh this car has a lot of wires and hoses.

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps093e2def.jpg

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The rear axle and fuel tank are DONE!

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tubbed69 09-03-2014 05:27 AM

Mark your work is always so impressive because when you open the hood it looks like it should have came this way from the factory,beautiful car:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

KPC67 09-03-2014 06:05 AM

:thumbsup:

LS7 Z/28 09-03-2014 06:11 AM

Who are you trying to fool with that wimpy LS9 engine cover. :lol:

Stielow 09-03-2014 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Valve Lash (Post 568546)
Who are you trying to fool with that wimpy LS9 engine cover. :lol:

She's all stock....:sieg: LOL

At most local car shows no one knows the differance.

Mark

LS7 Z/28 09-03-2014 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 568550)
She's all stock....:sieg: LOL

At most local car shows no one knows the differance.

Mark

Haha! throw some 302 badges on the hood for the hell of it. Keep 'em guessing.

Z06Joe 09-03-2014 07:26 AM

This is such an awesome build!!!! Wanna sell it to me and start on a new one and do the things on that one that you didn't do on this one???

I know... I know... :snapout:

Vince@Meanstreets 09-03-2014 10:17 AM

looking good.

Don't forget to post pictures of Ryan's under dash work. Its always inspiring to see clean wiring.

OLDFLM 09-03-2014 11:03 AM

Stielow Shop Cam
 
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Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 568539)

Where's the link for the "Stielow Shop Cam" so we can watch updates in real time? That's the only way to feed this "habit" imho!

Ketzer 09-03-2014 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OLDFLM (Post 568577)
Where's the link for the "Stielow Shop Cam" so we can watch updates in real time? That's the only way to feed this "habit" imho!

x 1,000!! Shop cam, shop cam, shop cam!!:tv_happy:



Jeff-

SlowProgress 09-03-2014 07:27 PM

Clutch ideas
 
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Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 568537)
The LS9 clutch works great up to about 825 ft*lbs TQ. I was on the edge of capacity of that clutch in Red Devil and Mayhem. .............. Randy Johnson and Chris Smith let me drive their cars and the low speed drivabilty of the DYAD seems good. The true test comes at the track.

Mark


Mark thanks for the information. Just about to purchase the clutch and DYAD was one of the ones at the top of the list. The CSC (throwout bearing) info. was really appreciated.

Scott

Keithq68 09-03-2014 07:41 PM

Abs.
 
Love this build. Im assuming that you needed to change the wheel speed sensors when you changed to the Bosch ABS unit.
I think the Bosch unit communicates over the CAN bus with the BCM.
Are you going to take advantage of the traction control?
Did you need to add the interior switches that communicate with the BCM for the different traction control levels?

Looking forward to more updates.

Keith Quinn.

Stielow 09-04-2014 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Keithq68 (Post 568639)
Love this build. Im assuming that you needed to change the wheel speed sensors when you changed to the Bosch ABS unit.
I think the Bosch unit communicates over the CAN bus with the BCM.
Are you going to take advantage of the traction control?
Did you need to add the interior switches that communicate with the BCM for the different traction control levels?

Looking forward to more updates.

Keith Quinn.

I did not do traction control. The only car I have ever driven that has good Traction Control is the New Z/28. It has a Performance Traction Management system that needs a lot of stuff to work and a ton of development to make it faster than driver’s best effort. On most tracks I'm still just as fast if not faster with PTM off vs it on. I could add Bosch traction control to my set up but in my opion it would not make the car faster just easier to drive. On tracks like the Nürburgring where you do get airborne and light a lot PTM works great.



The Bosch system requires the stock Corvette ZR-1 active wheel speed sensors. So that was not a real big deal. It does have a lot more CAN interface and a driver selectable ABS switch. Because Bosch is the supplier for the ABS for both the Z/28 and the ZR-1 they can interface with the Carbon brakes better.

Mark

Sales@Dutchboys 09-04-2014 05:29 AM

Flat cleared carbon parts.
 
A few pictures of the flat cleared carbon parts for the engine compartment we finished up.
The bottom of the hood is also flat cleared carbon.

Looking forward to seeing them on the car!


http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps805c2eb6.jpg

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syborg tt 09-04-2014 06:45 AM

Great pics Paul

Roberts68 09-04-2014 07:09 AM

That satin clear carbon is pure awesome. It is going to look killer as the backdrop for Marks pseudo-OEM appearance underhood

Evan Iroc-Z 09-04-2014 07:14 AM

Watching this thread is just not fair. This car is an absolute thing of beauty with every single piece thought out to the Nth degree. Amazing work and the perfect car to strive for.

Z06Joe 09-05-2014 06:24 AM

Those carbon pieces look amazing!!!! The attention to detail is unreal!!!

Lopeycam 09-05-2014 07:34 AM

Awesome build

HBRod 09-05-2014 07:37 AM

Sema?
 
Mark, will we be able to see XV at SEMA this year. Just curious if we can see this beautiful machine there. The pictures are great but it's always better seeing a car in person.

Rod

camcojb 09-05-2014 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by HBRod (Post 568779)
Mark, will we be able to see XV at SEMA this year. Just curious if we can see this beautiful machine there. The pictures are great but it's always better seeing a car in person.

Rod

It will be there, in the Optima booth I believe.


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