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mazspeed 11-09-2008 09:59 PM

Hey Kevin, which Mark did the driving?

Tom.A 11-09-2008 10:10 PM

Here is a link to couple more videos. For some reasing one is not working on my prior post. There is 10 total. No spin video. I was on the other side (parking lot entrance) and saw him spinning. I thought for sure he was gonna back it into the wall.

https://www.youtube.com/results?searc...rch_type=&aq=f

Steve1968LS2 11-09-2008 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kp.touring (Post 175710)
I had to leave the event early so I didn't get word on the Vette til tonight. Mark and Tom said the car got 2nd overall. So 1, 2 for Lateral-G.
Also it was Mark's first ime ever as a drive on a road course.
The big thanks to Scott for letting us be part of the Lateral-G team and to Optima Battery, Hot Rod, the other sponsors and Jimi for the event! Do it agian.
Oh and Mark the Vette has our front suspension and reworked C-4 rear, paul Newman's Car Creation did the rear.
Kevin

Goes to show that a good driver is a good driver.. like when they put Gordon in an F1 car :)

Team lat-g put in a great showing I think.. :lateral:

Tom.A 11-09-2008 10:34 PM

I thought I would add a few more details on the track. Here is the track layout.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x...ngefile231.jpg
I kinda got a brief tour viaa a Rhino. I did not realize that country club pictured here behind James killer car is also for the members. They had private garages for people to park their track cars. The guy also said that they own a 120 acres to the east of the track with plans of a 1/4" track in the future.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x...ngefile215.jpg
For about 3k you can sign up and drive their stable of C6 and Z06 vettes. He said approx. three 8 hour days and some 300 miles on the track. With focus on taking proper lines, brake test etc. They also have a ZR1 class for graduates of the first class. I thought it was great place. One thing I noticed though and perhaps I missed it but I saw no fire engine only BLS was staged on the paddock. Maybe I missed it as the track is spread out.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x...ngefile138.jpg

David Pozzi 11-09-2008 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2 (Post 175701)
Actually I'm fairly certain his best time was in the 1:52.xx range... at least that's what they called out when they called up first place.

And the first time Dave ever sat in the drivers seat of Penny was when he was heading out onto the track he had never been around. lol

And for the record.. more than a few cars had "experienced drivers" in them. :yes:

Steve,
I'm downloading the data files right now. Hard to do since there were 26 of them and most were empty files of just a couple of secs.

My second run shows a first lap of 1:52.621. This is off the GPS, so it's close but not exact, probably within a tenth though.

My first "warmup" lap out for the second run with Tyler on board 1:56.336! surprising since it was on cold tires and pushing more than when warm. Oh, and it was from a standing start! We did get off the line very well though. Actually I'll have to check the Manual on that first lap, - I just remembered the unit isn't supposed to start recording until the car reaches 15 or 20 mph. It may have started the lap at that speed.

My second lap of second run was a 1:53.834 I ran a bit wide on turn 4 or 5, whatever it's called... This was the exit of turn 4 or 5 and it messed up my entry to the esses big time.

I'm still in shock over it all, I thought I'd be in the upper 3rd if we each did our jobs, but not this well.
I'm really happy with my driving, looking back on it. I had to brake a bit early and get on the power before the apex in an attempt to combat the understeer. The corner weights were off, left front and right rear were heavier than the opposite corners by a LOT. Penny understeered way more on right hand turns, not bad at all on left hand turns. Luckily the two large loops were LH turns! :) but the right hander after start finish was difficult, the right hand sweeper at the end of the straight was a bit easier, I had to brake early and downshifted by slipping the clutch out which put more engine braking on the rear tires and helped the car rotate, then hit the gas!
Tyler, this is not the way I'd drive Penny if it had been more balanced. Just didn't want you to think all cars had to be driven that way on a track...

We scaled Penny fri night, but Tyler's lift had a waiting line, I tried a quick adjustment but the adjusters would not break loose, so we just left it. I decided to not put in the race brake pads. I think it was the right way to go. After seeing the track friday, it didn't look that hard on brakes, and harder pads would have made it worse for the 0-60-0 and autocross, you need warm race pads to do that. I had no troubles with the brakes at all. Data shows braking at .8G in a lot of places. I wouldn't say I was braking anywhere near max was afraid of making Penny understeer if I braked too hard.

I'm so happy Mark did so well! Having the Campbell Auto guys there was great, they always make me feel at home in their pit at the races and they are so cool to hang out with. They are always doing some neat project, I hope to drop by their shop more often next year.

Steve, did you get a pic of the red ZR1 that ran?
David,
Somewhere in LA...

jimhamptons 11-10-2008 07:11 AM

Wow, what an awesome event!

Congrats to Steve and the Penny team!

Steve1968LS2 11-10-2008 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by David Pozzi (Post 175727)
Steve,
My second run shows a first lap of 1:52.621. This is off the GPS, so it's close but not exact, probably within a tenth though.

I'm fairly positive that when they called us out for first place lap time they said you ran a 1:52 something. Better than the 911 with the pro-driver and better than the Optima 'Vette with thier hot shoe. It was also only 1 sec off from what guys that know that track (instructors from the school) drive the Z06s around the track. I bet you could get a job there pretty easily.

Once we fix the understeer I think you could take any one of those Z06s parked at the track. :yes:

I don't have track pics of the red ZR1. Maybe Nick does. I was shooting autocross for the stories when it was running.

Yea, I wish we had more time to balance the car. I wonder if having Tyler in the car help a bit with the corners? Besides pre-loading shocks I don't have much that I can move around to effect the weights. I could just add 50 lbs to the right front. Got any lead? lol

Can't wait to see the Rackpak data. :)

kp.touring 11-10-2008 07:28 AM

Mike
Which Mark, not the Schwartz.

Kevin

mazspeed 11-10-2008 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kp.touring (Post 175756)
Mike
Which Mark, not the Schwartz.

Kevin

Fraizer went huh? Cool.

Payton King 11-10-2008 08:16 AM

Here I am late to the party again
 
Congrats to all that participated!

Holly crap dude! Y'all definitely got down. Steve, Mary and David...my hats off to all of you. What an effort in a car that still has a lot left. No doubt there is some driving talent in that pair...and well Steve too.

I saw in another post...the new bar was too short? That is an off the shelf speedway bar. Can you elaborate? As I was about to order one up.


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