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JasonElvisHeard 04-04-2012 08:35 PM

Now the party starts!

http://thegmr.com/wp-content/uploads.../step-five.jpg

Using the GMR9-TX system we can put the GMR full -floater on any setup and housing. Notice to install the new floater we only had to cut the ends off where the original flanged piece was welded. Thus we did not have to trim any more then the flanged ends off, leaving all the brackets and brake line plumbing in place.

http://thegmr.com/wp-content/uploads...step-seven.jpg

http://thegmr.com/wp-content/uploads...4/step-six.jpg

http://thegmr.com/wp-content/uploads.../step-nine.jpg

http://thegmr.com/wp-content/uploads...04/step-10.jpg

http://thegmr.com/wp-content/uploads...04/step-13.jpg

http://thegmr.com/wp-content/uploads...04/step-15.jpg

Jason

JasonElvisHeard 04-04-2012 08:39 PM

Here is something that you guys might find interesting!

What we took off the rear end, flanged axle with 31 spline

http://thegmr.com/wp-content/uploads...04/step-12.jpg

What we are putting on with upgrade to floater and 35 spline!

http://thegmr.com/wp-content/uploads...04/step-14.jpg
(these are nova axles, the units we are using are about 2.5 pounds heaver but they are still at machine right now, were closer to a 50.8 lb situation)

Jason

Vegas69 04-04-2012 08:39 PM

Something wasn't set up right IMO. Your rear end was whining and you mention the axles flanges bumping into the seals.

I totally agree that these cars need a floater, corvette hub, or floating caliper. Fixed calipers on a tapered or roller bearing rearend, DON'T work.

JasonElvisHeard 04-05-2012 05:43 PM

Started on the caliper mounts...

http://thegmr.com/wp-content/uploads...mounts-one.jpg


http://thegmr.com/wp-content/uploads...-mount-two.jpg

Jason

JasonElvisHeard 04-05-2012 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 405570)
Your rear end was whining and you mention the axles flanges bumping into the seals.

with this in mind we decided that putting on a GMR filler cap was the obvious choice, now Cris can easily monitor the ring gear without pulling the third member!

http://thegmr.com/wp-content/uploads...r-cap-four.jpg

http://thegmr.com/wp-content/uploads...er-cap-one.jpg

http://thegmr.com/wp-content/uploads...4/rear-two.jpg

http://thegmr.com/wp-content/uploads...-cap-three.jpg

http://thegmr.com/wp-content/uploads...-cap-three.jpg

http://thegmr.com/wp-content/uploads...er-cap-two.jpg


Cris also wanted to relocate the breather and utilize something larger then what was originally on the housing. GMR -6 stainless fitting welded on the housing per the specifications given by Cris.

http://thegmr.com/wp-content/uploads...ne-fitting.jpg


Jason

War 04-05-2012 05:58 PM

This is such a nice, well thought out piece. Nice work Jason.
Welding seems acceptable:lol:

And now I have rearend envy, DAMN this site.

skatinjay27 04-05-2012 06:02 PM

yup those weld suck!:thumbsup:

BBC71Nova 04-05-2012 07:09 PM

That's the nicest diff jig I've ever seen. Very, very nice setup you guys have.

Shocked that the rotors did that. Must have been a lot of play to deflect to the point of failure with a rotor.

fleet 04-05-2012 07:29 PM

BB is very photogenic. :cool:

Nice job on the pics. :thumbsup:

DFRESH 04-05-2012 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 405819)
BB is very photogenic. :cool:

Nice job on the pics. :thumbsup:


Totally agree Skippy---she can't take a bad pic. Such an awesome car.

D

JasonElvisHeard 04-05-2012 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBC71Nova (Post 405813)
That's the nicest diff jig I've ever seen. Very, very nice setup you guys have.

Thanks, I have a new version in the machine process right now that should work with all housing manufactures easily. This is a press in stud housing, so with some simple ingenuity I was able to locate everything properly.

http://www.pro-touring.com/showthrea...Tooling-System

jason

fleet 04-05-2012 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DFRESH (Post 405823)
Totally agree Skippy---she can't take a bad pic. Such an awesome car.

D

It's Mr. Skipper to you, Gilligan.

:D

DFRESH 04-05-2012 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 405825)
It's Mr. Skipper to you, Gilligan.

:D


LOL--that's gold Skippy, Gold!

GregWeld 04-07-2012 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 387635)
I had Ben do this for me to see how a Yenko theme 68 Camaro of BB would look like! I really like the way Ben carried over the hump of the Stinger too the header panel!

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...ennkofront.jpg




Looks exactly like the picture I got from Compos Mentis (Skeepers) months ago....

fleet 04-07-2012 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 406150)
Looks exactly like the picture I got from Compos Mentis (Skeepers) months ago....

I gotta keep the redlines though, my Dad's Polish.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ro/camarov.jpg


:lol:

Al Moreno 04-07-2012 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 406150)
Looks exactly like the picture I got from Compos Mentis (Skeepers) months ago....

Come on Greg, the rear view mirrors are different......:rofl:

GregWeld 04-07-2012 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Moreno (Post 406233)
Come on Greg, the rear view mirrors are different......:rofl:




Dang! I must have been out in the universe somewhere to miss that Al!

Flash68 04-07-2012 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 406150)
Looks exactly like the picture I got from Compos Mentis (Skeepers) months ago....

Months? I saw this from Dr Skip at least a year ago.... that guy is way ahead of the curve. :D

srh3trinity 04-07-2012 07:53 PM

Either way you turn it, they are both cool. 68's are my favorite year Camaro and I like the D90 stripe and who doesn't like a Yenko?

Al Moreno 04-07-2012 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 406237)
Dang! I must have been out in the universe somewhere to miss that Al!

:cheers:

fleet 04-07-2012 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 406238)
Months? I saw this from Dr Skip at least a year ago.... that guy is way ahead of the curve. :D

Thanks Flash I think it's the mushrooms.

I tell my Mom they make me feel funny and I see things, but she insists they give me my edge.

Cris@JCG 04-10-2012 07:12 PM

Well I just finished putting 200 miles on the new rear end on new GMR floater... I want to thank The GMR for getting this upgrade to the car done ASAP for BB.. We got a new Wave track unit, Moser Aluminum case & 4.10 gears... The car should rip thru the Auto-x in second gear just fine... When we hit 6th gear.. it is doing about 2200 RPM @ 65 MPH... At Delmar Brian was driving the car in first gear.. The engine has such a nice power band to it..

Karl is in Vegas this week racing Z06 Corvettes without me! But will be joining him out their on Thurday for some fun with BB.. :D

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...n/IMG_2344.jpg

73CPCAMARO 04-10-2012 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 406981)
Well I just finished putting 200 miles on the new rear end on new GMR floater... I want to thank The GMR for getting this upgrade to the car done ASAP for BB.. We got a new Wave track unit, Moser Aluminum case & 4.10 gears... The car should rip thru the Auto-x in second gear just fine... When we hit 6th gear.. it is doing about 2200 RPM @ 65 MPH... At Delmar Brian was driving the car in first gear.. The engine has such a nice power band to it..

Karl is in Vegas this week racing Z06 Corvettes without me! But will be joining him out their on Thurday for some fun with BB.. :D

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...n/IMG_2344.jpg

Cris,

That setup looks amazing. The car should work really nice. Karl is getting a killer car. I am looking forward to giving Blu Balz another run. See you in a couple days! :D

Cris@JCG 04-10-2012 08:53 PM

See ya in few days! First round is on me... Maybe we will invite Todd... he will show up in a little "RED" Corvette.. :lol:


Quote:

Originally Posted by 73CPCAMARO (Post 406988)
Cris,

That setup looks amazing. The car should work really nice. Karl is getting a killer car. I am looking forward to giving Blu Balz another run. See you in a couple days! :D


JasonElvisHeard 04-10-2012 09:13 PM

One of the Pictures from Today!

http://thegmr.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/camaro.jpg

Jason

Vegas69 04-10-2012 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 407007)
See ya in few days! First round is on me... Maybe we will invite Todd... he will show up in a little "RED" Corvette.. :lol:

I hope to be there sometime on Friday to show the Mopar crowd what real american muscle sounds like. :D If not, I'll be there Sat. for sure. First beer is on you.

Matt@BOS 04-10-2012 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 407021)
I hope to be there sometime on Friday to show the Mopar crowd what real american muscle sounds like. :D If not, I'll be there Sat. for sure. First beer is on you.

Hey, hey! I'll be getting into town Friday afternoon. Don't start the shotgunning contest before then.

Matt

Vegas69 04-10-2012 10:11 PM

Aaaaaaah, hell no. Meaning, it's not happening. ha ha

fleet 04-11-2012 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 406174)

Cris, as promised I'm getting back to you on whether I'd contract with you/JCG to build me a Yenko PT car like this one I had created and sent to you on 12/05/11.

I told you on what steps I would take to make a decision, and I did follow through on that process.

Based on that, I will not be contracting with JCG.

I would ask that you respect my wishes not to be contacted any further.

Thank you. :thumbsup:

Greg from Aus 04-11-2012 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 407063)
Cris, as promised I'm getting back to you on whether I'd contract with you/JCG to build me a Yenko PT car like this one I had created and sent to you on 12/05/11.

I told you on what steps I would take to make a decision, and I did follow through on that process.

Based on that, I will not be contracting with JCG.

I would ask that you respect my wishes not to be contacted any further.

Thank you. :thumbsup:

Very strange way to do business. I would have thought a private conversation would have been more appropriate.

Greg

Cris@JCG 04-11-2012 07:48 AM

Skip- I want to thank for the opportunity of entertaining this build with JCG… Good luck with whomever you choose to build this concept of a car for you.. & respect your form of basing a decision to move forward.. I too use it daily to run my business..

As for contacting you.. Understood… but maybe I am reading into this the wrong way… but it makes me sound like I have been soliciting you to build this car… Which I have not.. I have not had discussions with you since December 2011 on the subject.. I personally feel that you could have relayed this information thru e-mail as you have in the past.. but as I have stated.. Good luck on your journey with this build!







Quote:

Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 407063)
Cris, as promised I'm getting back to you on whether I'd contract with you/JCG to build me a Yenko PT car like this one I had created and sent to you on 12/05/11.

I told you on what steps I would take to make a decision, and I did follow through on that process.

Based on that, I will not be contracting with JCG.

I would ask that you respect my wishes not to be contacted any further.

Thank you. :thumbsup:


Vince@Meanstreets 04-11-2012 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 407076)
Skip- I want to thank for the opportunity of entertaining this build with JCG… Good luck with whomever you choose to build this concept of a car for you.. & respect your form of basing a decision to move forward.. I too use it daily to run my business..

As for contacting you.. Understood… but maybe I am reading into this the wrong way… but it makes me sound like I have been soliciting you to build this car… Which I have not.. I have not had discussions with you since December 2011 on the subject.. I personally feel that you could have relayed this information thru e-mail as you have in the past.. but as I have stated.. Good luck on your journey with this build!

Not looking too deeply into this but I think this may be the issue. My thoughts that the internet is a cruel place is starting to solidify. :willy:

Al Moreno 04-11-2012 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonner (Post 407072)
Very strange way to do business. I would have thought a private conversation would have been more appropriate.

Greg

Word! I gues you have to give people room to be weird.

sixnina 04-11-2012 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Moreno (Post 407130)
Word! I gues you have to give people room to be weird.

Now back to our previously scheduled program, cris let us know howw bob performs with these new mods:thumbsup:

Kendall Burleson 04-11-2012 02:11 PM

Yes let us know how BB did.and the other stuff will not matter on Friday anyway.:willy: :willy: :willy:

fleet 04-12-2012 10:18 AM

Cris,

I've gotten plenty of support from members here regarding my post yesterday.

As you know, I let you (and a few other members) see my Yenko PT style clone design concept privately on 12/05/11.

You remember too that several months earlier I contacted you because I needed a shop to widen it. (Minor point, but I see you also had Ben incorporate my idea last year of using the '67 Yenko Stinger hood).



http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ro/camarov.jpg

Then you sent me the below on 01-03-12 at 3:19 pm EST and although I liked it, I said I wasn't ready to commit to having you build me one.

Less than 2 hours later you posted it.

You never told me you were going to post what you sent to me.

What I said was I wouldn't post it.

I never gave you permission to post my design concept publicly.

So at least twice this year you've used other lat-g members design concepts.

Some on here may agree with you doing that, while others obviously don't.

But when you do that, I hope you're not surprised there is push back from lat-g members.

So while I disagree with your decision to post my design concept without my permission, and believe different methods will bring you lasting success, I'm moving on.


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01-03-2012, 05:00 PM

Yenko version of BB! I had Ben do this for me to see how a Yenko theme 68 Camaro of BB would look like! I really like the way Ben carried over the hump of the Stinger too the header panel!

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ro/yenkofr.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...ennkofront.jpg
__________________
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[email protected]

WE BUILD THEM TO DRIVE THEM!

http://www.jcgrestorationandcustoms.com/
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Cris@JCG 04-12-2012 11:32 AM

Skip- I used a rendering that belongs to Karl & JCG for a “ YENKO THEME” version of BB… I paid Ben to do this for me to see what it would look like because of your inquire for us to build you a semi version of BB in Yenko theme.. I consider these cars theme cars.. Not gonna be the first somebody builds a clone Yenko Camaro.. especially in PT format… Karl has been ok with me incorporating some of the designs we did for his cars with other builds here @ the shop & with people that have PM’ed with request on tail lights & interior dash… I have gone as far as e-mailing pics on how we did the work..

You have been emailing since Oct 2010 about some ideas but have never pulled the trigger to build anything… IMO.. this is not a design that is being duplicated… It is theme that has been duplicated for years.. but you wanted it to be wide version of it… Which JCG has been doing for a couple of years now.. I don’t think I have ever mentioned to anybody that you were inquiring with us to build this theme car… but other than post a rendering that belongs to JCG.. IMO.. I don’t need your permission to post a rendering of what belongs to us… but should have thought about it more before I did… & for that I apologize

I will no longer comment about this subject… as for other design concepts that we are doing that simulate other builds.. I will continue to do as a customer asks.. I get ideas from customers e-mailed to me to get their point across on what they want us to build..

In the long run our work speaks for itself.. We do commit errors around here but in the end we do the best we can to correct them..







Quote:

Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 407322)
Cris,

I've gotten plenty of support from members here regarding my post yesterday.

As you know, I let you (and a few other members) see my Yenko PT style clone design concept privately on 12/05/11.

You remember too that several months earlier I contacted you because I needed a shop to widen it. (Minor point, but I see you also had Ben incorporate my idea last year of using the '67 Yenko Stinger hood).



http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ro/camarov.jpg

Then you sent me the below on 01-03-12 at 3:19 pm EST and although I liked it, I said I wasn't ready to commit to having you build me one.

Less than 2 hours later you posted it.

You never told me you were going to post what you sent to me.

What I said was I wouldn't post it.

I never gave you permission to post my design concept publicly.

So at least twice this year you've used other lat-g members design concepts.

Some on here may agree with you doing that, while others obviously don't.

But when you do that, I hope you're not surprised there is push back from lat-g members.

So while I disagree with your decision to post my design concept without my permission, and believe different methods will bring you lasting success, I'm moving on.


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01-03-2012, 05:00 PM

Yenko version of BB! I had Ben do this for me to see how a Yenko theme 68 Camaro of BB would look like! I really like the way Ben carried over the hump of the Stinger too the header panel!

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ro/yenkofr.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...ennkofront.jpg
__________________
Cris Gonzalez
[email protected]

WE BUILD THEM TO DRIVE THEM!

http://www.jcgrestorationandcustoms.com/
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GRob 04-12-2012 01:23 PM

Jeez sounds like much ado about nothing to me . . .

214Chevy 04-12-2012 01:29 PM

All I know is I like the original pic of the real 68 with the redline tires. Very nice!!!!!!!:yes: :yes:

Ketzer 04-12-2012 01:36 PM

Defining intellectual property has been keeping lawyers rich for many years. That argument has also ruined many a friendship, partnership, and some marriages. Absolutely no good will come from this. In my humble opinion (worth less than 2 cents) it is more often about ego than a tangible idea.

Best of luck to all involved.

Jeff-


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