Hah... Now that I KNOW what to expect, I'll install a bike rack on my car as well.

I'm telling you people liked the idea when they saw it and I can't be the only guy doing it. So it looks like you have to be the next.

Marty saw this picture of your car on the Hot Rod Website, photo's of their favorite SEMA Cruise Rides:
http://blogs.hotrod.com/sema-2013-cr...#axzz2lHPfYXgZ

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Looks great Marty,hopefully you are enjoying it now.:trophy-1302:

Marty now that's a good pic. I stopped by your car several times while at SEMA and took pics. Very well put together, Impressive! Congrats.

I didn't even seen the post from them That is pretty cool.

Kenny still has the car and I will be getting it after the first of the year since I have no where to stick the car since the Bumble Bee is in my warehouse and there is another car on the rack in my garage.

Hi Lenie,

Thank you Kenny did a great job finishing the car. I would love to see pictures as I really didn't take any of the car at sema.

The car really came out nice. I have said it before, but your thread has become a blueprint for building a nice second gen. I have borrowed a few ideas like the DSE 67-69 brackets and the Ridetech weld on brackets (which I may not use after all, but they really clean things up). The DSE folks even called me and told me I ordered the wrong MC brackets, but after seeing how it fit on your car I stuck with that part number.

Thank you Stephen,

I really appreciate the kind words and if just one person learns something from one of my build it make all of my posts worthwhile.

This was my first SEMA and it was so awesome seeing all these cars I've only read about and seen pix of. As soon as I saw the mountain bike sticking out of the side of a 2nd gen I knew I'd found 2nd Chance. Seeing it in person makes a world of difference, i mean you know it's nice from the pics but you don't get a feel for how nice until you see it up close and personal. Very cool car and I took a ton of pics for my sister who also owns a second Gen and needs a new direction.

Wow - thank you very much.

ps - any chance i can get a copy of your pictures ??

Marty, i have a few hi-res pics too. p.m me your email and i'll have the one with brains in my fam email them too you...

How's the car been treating you Marty? Have you driven it much? Also what sizes tires did you end up with on the new wheels?

Glad to see somebody else tried the Line-X under the car. Planning to do that to my 71 Firebird as well. Did you use a rotisserie? If so where were your mounting points? Sweet ride by the way!!

The car has been quietly resting at Kenny's in Arkansas due to the Awesome winter we have been having here in Chicago. It look like I will be picking it up at Indy Good Guys in June.

So for now I am currently working on the 2010 Camaro that I took in partial trade for the Syborg truck. I am trying to get it ready for a couple track events this summer and the mostly the Power Tour. I am working with the Guys at LG Motorsports on the suspension and chassis stiffeners. Next year I will most likely do the full DSE conversion. But for now it just wasn't in the budget.

I also think the car needs more color and of course some Carbon Fiber as it it way to yellow.

ps It sucks having two cars to work on as I don't know which one to work on first. However I did get this really cool chassis from Scott Mock for the 70 which I will work over the next year or two.

http://www.garagescene.net/_data/i/u...c3ef3ef-me.jpg

http://www.garagescene.net/_data/i/u...520afa2-me.jpg

http://www.garagescene.net/_data/i/u...0317f66-me.jpg

http://www.garagescene.net/_data/i/u...3e50df7-me.jpg

My goal with this chassis is to emulate what AL Moreno kids are doing with there 5th gen Camaro.

https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=38904

Now that's a lofty goal!


--Eric

Not sure if lofty is the right word either ?

I hope Kenny is beating the living sh!t out of it!!:mock:

Say Marty, you're about set this thing off right, huh?

Say Marty, you're about set this thing off right, huh? Love the frame.

Marty how in the world do you manage two projects,I had to take vacation from work just to work on my own,nice looking sub for the 70.

Not to worry he is

After the summer (winter 2014/2015) the plan is to redo the trunk and some of the interior. Victor Fulton did an awesome sketch for me and the plan is to do something that no one has ever done to a camaro. A few people have seen it and all agree it's really cool and it is going to be a one of kind for sure.

and that is why the subframe is sitting quietly in my warehouse.

Here is the plan for the camaro

Suspension Mods
LG Motorsports Coil Over Conversion front & Back
LG Motorsports Chassis braces ( full kit )
Pfadt Front Adjustable Sway bar
Pfadt Rear Splined Sway bar
Pfadt Chassis Bushings
DSE Solid Subframe Bushings

Engine Bay Mods
DSE Motor Mounts
Seibon Underhood Carbon fiber Cooling Cover (Radiator)
Carbon Fiber Coil Covers
Carbon Fiber Air Intake tube


Wheels & Tires
LG Motorsports ZR28 20 x 10 Front & 20 x 11 Rear
Good Year Eagle F1 Supercar 285/35ZR20 & 305/35ZR20

Siebon Carbon Fiber
SS-style Carbon Fiber Fenders for 2010-2012 Chevrolet Camaro (10mm wider)
http://seiboncarbon.com/store/produc...0mm-wider.html
Paint the fenders yellow but leave the fender vents carbon

OEM-style carbon fiber front lip for 2010-2011 Chevrolet Camaro
http://seiboncarbon.com/store/produc...et-camaro.html

OEM-style carbon fiber side skirts for 2010-2011 Chevrolet Camaro

http://seiboncarbon.com/store/produc...et-camaro.html

OEM-style carbon fiber rear lip for 2010-2011 Chevrolet Camaro

http://seiboncarbon.com/store/produc...et-camaro.html


Misc,
GM ZL1 Rock Guards Front & Back
GM Fender Extension

Marty have you purchased the Pfadt parts yet?

yeppers.

http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/...%20%282%29.JPG

http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/...8%20Wheels.JPG

http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/...%20%281%29.JPG

http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/...%20%282%29.JPG


http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/...ng%20Wheel.JPG

Nice dude!!!!

You need to do the Ca to Texas road trip with us!!!

Nice Marty. Can't wait to see these come together

When you're a big ol pimp...that's how you roll. :beavis:

Nice job on the Pfadt parts.

I have there coilovers and sways on my C6 - and they just went out of business.

Fantastic!

Not this year. This year it's the Power Tour for me. Can't freaking wait

I will hauling the subframe to my powder coater to protect it from surface rust.

that made me laugh. ps I am not much taller then Greg

Did I ever tell you how much I love your vette.

Thanks Marty!

You bringing the 5th gen to the Power Tour?

Are you long hauling?

This will be my 6th Power Tour - and it starts in my backyard.

I don't have the budget or the time off for the long haul this year - so I might make it to Knoxville and hit up the Dragon on the way home.

Looks like i am going to start in Hamond Indiana and finish in the Dells. I am hoping my sister lets me take my Nephew as I think he will have a blast.

Since Kenny will still have the 70 the plan is to take the 5th gen again. It's hard to beat the creature comforts of that car.

ps I don't have the time off either and my wife spent the vacation budget in Punta Cana last week with my daughters

Nice - I blew half the budget getting the motor together this winter, and now I am sending the car to fat camp - to get the front end a little bit more muscular. You should see those updates in a few weeks!

My parents still live up in Rockford, so the end of the trip I could crash up there but I just don't see it happening after I get the final bill from front end conversion.

Let us know how the 5th gen Pfadt parts install.

I found there instructions less than ideal - and honestly man Corvetteforum is a terrible source of getting information. You basically have to pull teeth to find people that have the knowledge and are willing to share it. Unlike this site, ls1tech, and pro-touring - people are a lot more helpful.

Of course thats just my opinion - haha.

Marty, about where (what pg#) was that pic of the "same" yet different size of the tires?, thanx dude,

Been ridin?

2nd Chance Camaro - Size Does Matter - Which in the end might not Matter
Size Does Matter- Which in the end might not Matter

Posted: Nov 04, 2011 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Last week I was looking at the tires stored in Mario's 69 Camaro. I couldn't help but notice that his tire looked skinny compared to the 335 BFG tire sitting in my garage. I kept telling Mario that my 335 was much bigger then his 345 and he said no way. So I took his tire home to find out if I was correct. I figured a side by side test would be the only way to prove that the BFG KDW 2 are indeed bigger.

Left: BFG 335 35 18 ( 14" Wide )
Middle: Michelin 345 __ 19 ( 13" Wide )
Right: BFG 295 35 18 ( 12" Wide )

Close up of the BFG 335 & Michelin 345 -- The BFG is 1" Wider

http://www.garagescene.net/_data/i/u...98838d7-me.jpg


Close Up of the Michelin 345 & the BFG 295 -- Not much of a difference

http://www.garagescene.net/_data/i/u...7daef51-me.jpg


The BFG 335 height compared to the BFG 295 - you can see the difference is much greater


http://www.garagescene.net/_data/i/u...e58e9fd-me.jpg


Also the height is much taller on the Michelin.


http://www.garagescene.net/_data/i/u...e7e5271-me.jpg


The plan has to been to run the 295's on the street and the 335's for Good-Guys events. In the end I may only be able to run the 295 on the back of 2nd Chance Camaro because I can't get the bracket from DSE.

Why you ask ?
The Mini-Tubs I purchased from DSE will fit the 335's. However, since I didn't buy there complete leaf spring conversion kit I am unable to purchase the front offset sping pocket I need to complete the conversion. Where I am confused is I can buy offset shackle & spring perch's but not the lower spring pocket - odd. I had the Allen (really nice sales guy) ask Kyle if I could purchase them and Kyle said no dice which kinda sucks.

So now I may be forced to run only the 295's full time. So Buyer Beware if buy the DSE Mini-Tubs you are going to have to make your own lower mounts for the front or by one of there 3 kits DSE offers. Sometimes you
win sometimes you lose.

I do have a couple Options

Option A:
Buy there Mini-Tub Kit # 041221 $1699.00 which doesn't include Leaf Springs & Shocks which will give you an 1.5" drop and then sell the other parts you don't need. Seems expensive but it's only money and you can't take it with you.

Option B:
Would be to have a local fab shop make a set of offset shackle mounts to complete the conversion. If I go this route I will make a couple extra to help out the two other guys I know that are in the same boat as me.

I have a mini tub kit for my nova I'm change up to 4 link I can see if its in my kit if you're interested in it.?

It's an old post that I just re-posted for Glassman.

He was trying to figure out what tires he wanted to run.

Right now i'm running a KDW 245/17 up front and don't have enough tire and i'm running a 275 in the back. I want to run a 315 and my next door neighbor is running the Nitto 05 315/17 on his and its exactly 12" wide, od of the tire, not the tread or seating bead.
I plan on mini tubbing it but its runnin sooo good with the leafs, i dont wanna change it. Only want to change the rims tires to get more meat, for looks and performance....

I tracked it a few weeks back with Greg and Seig and the car ran fantastic, just need more power and a little more grip, but shes very predictable.

Keith (Custom Works) did the clip, steering, Speed tech, coil-overs, and the Holley/Hooker swap and the car handles very good and is very controlable/predictable......fun to drive.

Went for a 45 min pedal today, 106* out, ugh....good thing i gotta large water like tub in the back yard....

I was in a similar situation, ended up making our own mounts.

thats what i get for trying to read :snapout: