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syborg tt 11-16-2012 07:44 AM

Well said Greg

Now finish the bubble top at Iron Werks so I can buy it for 1/4 of what you put into.

Pretty Please !!! :hail:

Sieg 11-16-2012 07:58 AM

I've watched the "underground system" first hand for years around my workplace with local police using our business like a fish bowl so to speak.......adjancent properties house a convenience store/ gas station, methadone/mental health clinic, new 20 million dollar multi-story subsidized low-income housing, a non-profit food bank soup kitchen, and liquor store.

Approximately 80% of the convenience stores over-the counter sales are on Oregon's SNAP card (supplemental nutritional assistance program or food stamps) There is nothing nutritional about this stores inventory....not even a loaf of white bread. Though people buy Starbucks Frappuccinos on the card. I've seen people at the counter with five cards asking the clerk to check the balances. Basically they are bartering cards. Local hostiles teach travelers how to obtain cards which I believe have a minimum value of $200 per month.

Clients loitering outside the clinic are frequently observed selling their prescription medication for cash which typically goes to the convenience store for malt or hard liquor or used to buy weed and other drugs from the local street vendors.

The soup kitchen draws the most extreme meth addicts I've ever seen into the area and serves a high percentage of the local incurable drunks. Though they constantly publicize they do not serve visually intoxicated individuals. Watching parents with young children truly in need having to subject their children to that environment is nausiating as is the manager lying through her teeth when interviewed by local media then driving off in her BMW X5.

SNAP card holders also go to the local Safeway and hang out in the meat department soliciting customers to buy their meat for them at 50 cents on the dollar.

I've reported numerous vendor fraud violations to local state office that "monitors" the program only to get "vendor fraud is a federal issue that we are not responsible for" deflective answer.

The level of fraud within these programs accross the country has to be staggering and being managed by pro entitlement buraucracies compounds. Then there's the directors of non-profit living high on the hog while they deliver the absolute bare minimums to maximize their share of the grant money.

:willy:

Fluid Power 11-16-2012 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 446711)
Darren....


I'm not saying right or wrong with your decision to dump the Porsche for a VW etc.

But it's the "dumbing down" of America that you're giving in to.

I drive a bunch of top end cars -- nobody gives me any grief about it. If they did - I'd look at them like they were zombies and I'd just consider "the source".

Personally -- I'm more than happy to be "wealthy". I pay plenty of taxes - I'm glad I have to... that means I'm doing okay. I don't live in a fancy house - I live in the house I love... with my shop right out the back door... in a quiet neighborhood. I've had 3 neighbors come over to ask about the new Freightliner in the driveway. They get excited when I say -- if you think that's big - wait 'til the new trailer gets here! They think it's great.

By the way --- me BUYING those things --- creates jobs --- I'm paying 9.9% state sales tax on them.... That tax alone is more than many people EARN. I'm okay with that. It's the price you pay for living in AMERICA.

I wouldn't say that the only reason I sold the Porsche was for the heat, but it was interesting none the less. My friends/family think it is great what I have done. I love the house we live in as well. I have a huge shop, my boy has a motocross track and I have all the toys to keep it in shape! My wife did get rid of her car because of the heat at work. I bought her a 07 e55 AMG. God I loved that car! She is a VP at a company and does extremely well. She plays "the game" in this company and it was more a political move, but the crap generated from a car was amazing!


Greg, you sound like my accountant! Be glad you can afford to pay taxes!

IMPALA MAN 11-16-2012 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 446638)
I'll chime in here with real life taxes


I pay 15% income tax on my dividends (qualified dividends)

I pay ZERO on my tax free muni bonds

Without saying what I earn --- it is SUBSTANTIAL.... but my actual tax rate is quite low in percentage terms == especially when you figure some at zero. MY total tax bill will be far higher than most of you in dollar terms. I still only get one vote and drive on the same roads.

Now ---- I have that income because the MONEY that makes that money was already taxed at ordinary income taxes -- so the money that's left is ALL MINE.... now I just pay taxes on what it earns. Same as that simpleton Warren
Buffet (I hate people that want to speak for me -- but are far richer -- and that old fart ought to just shut the hell up and write a big fat check to the IRS if he wants to pay more).:D


BTW --- I'd LOVE to see a flat tax -- corporate and personal --- ZERO deductions for ANYONE for ANYTHING. Just gross as much as you can and pay your percentage and be done with it. They could index the rates -- less for low earners -- more for the next bracket and hammer the top guys - but make it simple and easy. You gross X - you pay X. You want a big azz car and house - that's your problem not mine. :D

I'm with you guys here. If the Buffet deal was incorrect, so be it. Just for the record, I think it should all be equal. If currently, the wealthy are paying higher taxes than the poor, that's just as wrong as the other way around IMO. FLAT TAX would fix it all.

Sieg 11-16-2012 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluid Power (Post 446732)
My wife did get rid of her car because of the heat at work. I bought her a 07 e55 AMG. God I loved that car!

You should have painted it in a flat mundane color, added a few distressed areas for camoflauge, and put a couple Hybrid badges on it. :unibrow:

Sieg 11-16-2012 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 446711)
I'm paying 9.9% state sales tax on them....

This year. :D

GregWeld 11-29-2012 08:05 AM

THIS is the style of DEMOCRACY that I like.... NOT the Governments version.



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/50007300.../#.ULeFraWhwwE

syborg tt 11-29-2012 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 448975)
THIS is the style of DEMOCRACY that I like.... NOT the Governments version.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/50007300.../#.ULeFraWhwwE


I saw this this morning and I forwarded to my 12 year old daughter. Her response was "I can't believe people would just walk by him. I am happy that he stopped to help him. That was really nice."

Shmoov69 11-29-2012 01:35 PM

If he was a politician he would've taken the boots from someone else to give to the homeless dude! LOL!:yes:

That's awesome and its even better that someone captured it with all the bad press that comes out of NYC police department. :cheers:

syborg tt 11-29-2012 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Shmoov69 (Post 449030)
If he was a politician he would've taken the boots from someone else to give to the homeless dude! LOL!:yes:

That's awesome and its even better that someone captured it with all the bad press that comes out of NYC police department. :cheers:

If it was Mr O he would have taken one of my shoe's to make it fair for both of us.


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