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FETorino 07-31-2012 10:37 PM

I just can't get over the fact that Ron has 2 housings, who would have thought that. :lol:

Matt@BOS 07-31-2012 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 427891)
I just can't get over the fact that Ron has 2 housings, who would have thought that. :lol:

6 months from now we're going to see an add in the for sale section.

"1969 Camaro project car. All pro touring parts included. all car needs is a shell. Item located in L.A. Would prefer local buyer. Freight shipping available at buyer's expense."

Flash68 07-31-2012 11:31 PM

Ron.... Sorry but you're still gonna have knock back. :lol:

Ron in SoCal 07-31-2012 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 427904)
Ron.... Sorry but you're still gonna have knock back. :lol:

Haha...I sure hope not! :lol:

One thing I'd add is the housing is a protoype of SpeedTech's floater built by Speedway, Brett and me. It did take some trial and error and I can now recite every part in that thing in my sleep.

Ron in SoCal 07-31-2012 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 427891)
I just can't get over the fact that Ron has 2 housings, who would have thought that. :lol:

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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 427901)
6 months from now we're going to see an add in the for sale section.

"1969 Camaro project car. All pro touring parts included. all car needs is a shell. Item located in L.A. Would prefer local buyer. Freight shipping available at buyer's expense."

You guys are a riot. Besides, the ad comes out tomorrow.

FETorino 07-31-2012 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 427906)
You guys are a riot. Besides, the ad comes out tomorrow.

It's a defense mechanism to deal with my parts envy issues..:rofl:

Vince@Meanstreets 08-01-2012 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 67zo6Camaro (Post 427884)
However, These inner axel seals are required on a floater style rear end and they need to be placed on the inside of the pumpkin just at the start of the axel tubing.
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/...o/IMG_3724.jpg

So Brett, talk to me about these inner seal races, it looks to be delrin supports in an aluminum race.

Is that a snap ring on top and how much force did it take to insert?

Looking good guys.

Greg from Aus 08-01-2012 06:39 AM

Awesome work as usual.

Greg

Ron in SoCal 08-01-2012 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 427911)
So Brett, talk to me about these inner seal races, it looks to be delrin supports in an aluminum race.

Is that a snap ring on top and how much force did it take to insert?

Looking good guys.

Vince - alum race, rubber seals. No delrin, no snap ring. Hammer in carefully...:unibrow:

fleet 08-01-2012 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 67zo6Camaro (Post 427884)

Nice addition ..looks like they're from the 'Bad Penny Signature Collection'. :unibrow:

Flash68 08-01-2012 04:16 PM

That's some NASA type shiat right there.... or something. :D

Rick D 08-01-2012 04:59 PM

Ummm I don't remember any talk of the hubs on the housing when we talked :woot: :woot: :woot:
Sweet very sweet!!

intocarss 08-01-2012 06:17 PM

2 rear ends

12 hubs

17 flywheels

1 1/2 Ls engs

and one incredible build

Ron in SoCal 08-01-2012 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 427998)
Nice addition ..looks like they're from the 'Bad Penny Signature Collection'. :unibrow:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 428002)
That's some NASA type shiat right there.... or something. :D

I'm ok w that...:lol:

Ron in SoCal 08-01-2012 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick D (Post 428010)
Ummm I don't remember any talk of the hubs on the housing when we talked :woot: :woot: :woot:
Sweet very sweet!!

Thx Rick! :cheers:

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Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 428029)
2 rear ends

12 hubs

17 flywheels

1 1/2 Ls engs

and one incredible build

Jerr you should see how many sets of lug nutz I have :lol: :lateral:

wv nova 08-05-2012 02:37 PM

man i can't find the paint code anywhere , can you guys help me?:cheers:

FETorino 08-05-2012 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 415942)
Sad, but true...:lol:

Ok, so no pics but here's an update. Pretty much got to the end of my list @ JCG. Cris has alot of projects in the shop and SEMA will be here before we can blink so it was time to move the car outta there.

Seems like I do everything 3x and I'm still stuck in this mode but hopefully not for long. Also having painted or powdercoated parts drives some compromise. There was still some fab to be done and Mr. Fab53 offered to step in so off to his shop the car went. Brett squared the car every which way possible and rewelded the sub. Should be undercoat touched up by end of week. Brett is also fab'ing my subframe downbars to connect to my sub and double as a swaybar mount. This will save the p-coat. Brett's also adding a removable 5th diagonal link to my rollbar for added saftey.

In other news, with the car at ride height the rear wheels rubbed. I think this was caused more by my rear end width than the wheels ordered wrong (5.5" BS). I want it to sit right, so I took my rear over to Speedway for some mods. Also, had an offer to buy my wheels so I sold them and spoke to Frank. He gave me a smokin deal on some GW3s which get me to 19 in the rear. Unfortunately there is no good 100 TW option in 335/19 so I went w NT05s for now (da*n!); only other option is 30TW and I may go there after the Nittos get ground down. Wheels and tires should be in by end of next week and rear will be at the p-coater by then also.

We also need to do some rear shock relo to eliminate bind (not sure how that happened?) and trunk relief mods for exhaust clearance. This should be done by next week as well.

Once all this is done we start to put the car back together. The only thing left to do before wiring really is finish the oiling routing and motor breathing, do the final connection for fuel, brakes and clutch. Hoping to get all this done in the next 30 days.

Here's a fun milestone. I actually 'sat' in my car for the first time ever:
http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...-25-00_970.jpg

Pics and details soon guys...:cheers:


Has 30 days passed yet? :_paranoid

At least post some more progress pics I know you're working on it. :D

Rick D 08-05-2012 07:26 PM

Yah come on Ron or Brett we need an update!! :cheers:

Ron in SoCal 08-05-2012 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 428823)
Has 30 days passed yet? :_paranoid

At least post some more progress pics I know you're working on it. :D

Sorry Mr. Personality :D , no pics. I've been out on the road and not seen the car in a few days. I know Brett's got some...:yes:

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Originally Posted by Rick D (Post 428829)
Yah come on Ron or Brett we need an update!! :cheers:

Ricky D! Here's an update for you...We got the drivetrain together, finally, and in the car. One of those milestone moments where we're not planning on taking it back out again. Harness is getting recovered and coolers/oiling getting micked up. Should have some serious progress and pics this week :cheers:

67zo6Camaro 08-05-2012 08:55 PM

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67zo6Camaro 08-05-2012 09:01 PM

Fab53 floater installation
 
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67zo6Camaro 08-05-2012 09:09 PM

Fab53 Floater installation
 
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67zo6Camaro 08-05-2012 09:24 PM

Fab53
 
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FETorino 08-05-2012 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 428835)
Sorry Mr. Personality :D , no pics. I've been out on the road and not seen the car in a few days. I know Brett's got some...:yes:



A few days..... heck I haven't seen my car since Jan.:(

I knew Bretts had you covered and Pics were coming. :thumbsup:

fleet 08-05-2012 10:09 PM

Them is some fine hard parts there...dawg.

:D

67zo6Camaro 08-05-2012 10:20 PM

Fab53 motor installation
 
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73CPCAMARO 08-05-2012 10:29 PM

The car is coming along very nicely. You guys are doing nice work. Keep the photos coming. :thumbsup:

Brian

fleet 08-05-2012 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 67zo6Camaro (Post 428859)
Should I still post the blow by blow sets leading up to these photos?

Just asking, so that I'm not considered the thread jacker. .

If you don't Brett, then you WILL be considered a 'thread jacker'!

:D

Greg from Aus 08-06-2012 03:12 AM

Bring them on, I have so much to learn :thumbsup:


Greg

Rick D 08-06-2012 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 428835)
Ricky D! Here's an update for you...We got the drivetrain together, finally, and in the car. One of those milestone moments where we're not planning on taking it back out again. Harness is getting recovered and coolers/oiling getting micked up. Should have some serious progress and pics this week :cheers:

Sorry I should have said we needs picture update :lol: I already new all of that :thumbsup: I just love see the progress on this beast:cheers:

Rick D 08-06-2012 04:42 AM

Oops double post!

Rick D 08-06-2012 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 67zo6Camaro (Post 428836)
Ask and you shall receive

Thank you Sir!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67zo6Camaro (Post 428859)
Should I still post the blow by blow sets leading up to these photos?

Ummmmm yes please keep posting the detailed pictures and how to's :thumbsup:

Quote:

Just asking, so that I'm not considered the thread jacker. Lots of good photos of the clutch and flywheel (I mean flywheels) install with mating of the trans to the engine. Photos on the engine harness and American Autowire set-up and installation...
Speaking of double parts I here you will have one less housing to worry about :unibrow:

coolwelder62 08-06-2012 05:50 AM

This build is coming along great.Ron,I hope you have it ready for RTTC next year.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Payton King 08-06-2012 07:41 AM

Looks very nice
 
Did you install inner tube seals for the floater?

Ron in SoCal 08-06-2012 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 428858)
Them is some fine hard parts there...dawg.

:D

Fo Shizzle ma Nizzle :hail: :lol:

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Originally Posted by 73CPCAMARO (Post 428860)
The car is coming along very nicely. You guys are doing nice work. Keep the photos coming. :thumbsup:

Brian

Thanks Brian. Also appreciate you taking me through Mike's oiling set up at Del Mar. That helped me alot :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by coolwelder62 (Post 428874)
This build is coming along great.Ron,I hope you have it ready for RTTC next year.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I sure hope so Scott. I'm kinda done making predictions cause all my good 'friends' call me on it. How does the saying go, 'deadlines are made to be missed?' :lol:

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Originally Posted by Payton King (Post 428880)
Did you install inner tube seals for the floater?

Yes Payton we doubled up on them - center section and axle ends. Between that and the center vent I'm hoping we keep the gear oil where it should be. Probably a losing battle though...

Payton King 08-06-2012 09:24 AM

That should be fine
 
make sure you vent each tube between the seals and you should be fine. You should have a total of 3 vents.

Cris@JCG 08-06-2012 11:36 AM

Good point Payton.. We are currently machining a part to do this on my housings..

Brett- Doing a great job!


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Originally Posted by Payton King (Post 428903)
make sure you vent each tube between the seals and you should be fine. You should have a total of 3 vents.


Ron in SoCal 08-06-2012 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Payton King (Post 428903)
make sure you vent each tube between the seals and you should be fine. You should have a total of 3 vents.

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Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 428921)
Good point Payton.. We are currently machining a part to do this on my housings..

Brett- Doing a great job!

That's what I thought as well and requested. Speedway engineer said the axle vents were not needed based on this design. We'll find out soon enough...

Cris are you referring to the GMR housing? Do they run inner (center section) seals?

Payton King 08-06-2012 12:03 PM

Hey Chris
 
Sorry to miss you at Motor State.

Wish I knew the info first hand, but Randy Bell was having a problem with fluild pushing through the seals. The tube vents coupled with the center section vent fixed the problem...according to Ron's discussion with Randy.

I can steal information and ideas like no one else. LOL

Cris@JCG 08-06-2012 01:17 PM

If Speedway is good without it then you should be good.. but IMO you might blow the inner seals because you are creating pressure inside of those tubes.. & you might want to find a way to put set screws inside to retain the inner seals.. But that is what I think..

With all the issues that I have had with BB's rear-end.. I worked with Jason(GMR) on making my own housing the way I thought would work better.. Carrys more oil, Does not need inner axle seals but designed a way to keep the oil in the center section, & allows me a surface for my three link.. Last week Jason delivered three housings.. More to it.. but will show the end product later..


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Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 428922)
That's what I thought as well and requested. Speedway engineer said the axle vents were not needed based on this design. We'll find out soon enough...

Cris are you referring to the GMR housing? Do they run inner (center section) seals?

Payton- I am sure we will catch up here pretty soon @ a event!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Payton King (Post 428923)
Sorry to miss you at Motor State.

Wish I knew the info first hand, but Randy Bell was having a problem with fluild pushing through the seals. The tube vents coupled with the center section vent fixed the problem...according to Ron's discussion with Randy.

I can steal information and ideas like no one else. LOL



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