I had tried to make these points in earlier posts... that we have the highest gun ownership by far -- but not the highest % of gun murders...

The fact that Briton has a far higher violent crime rate is an eye opener! I'd have never guessed that one.

John Lott, economist and gun-rights advocate, has extensively studied mass shootings and reports that, with just one exception, the attack on U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson, Arizona, in 2011, every public shooting since 1950 in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed has taken place where citizens are not allowed to carry guns. The massacres at Sandy Hook Elementary, Columbine, Virginia Tech and the Century 16 movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, all took place in gun-free zones.

http://us.cnn.com/2012/12/19/opinion...hts/index.html

The whole UK argument is weak but is also a look ahead.

http://lastresistance.com/906/englan...itchen-knives/

yes, As I have been saying. The laws are there. Try to get these yahoos to enforce them.

I feel a big problem are these new owners that don't understand gun ownership and the resposibility it takes to own one. When I say "new owners" I am speaking of these people who have purchased during ban scare driven shopping sprees. Just bought because everyone was doing it.

I don't have to study mass killings to know that this guy is skewing things hilariously.

I suspect he has a very specific definition of the term public, that eliminates any private property, any home, military bases etc.

I mean he clearly cannot count the fort hood shooting because that is pretty much the antithesis of what hardcore gun rights advocates talk about. After students get shot, it's "if only someone had a gun". When almost 45 people get shot on a military base, it's more like we'd just rather not discuss that one at all.

I'm not advocating for anything, I'm simply pointing out the massive holes in some of the angles people take to sound convincing.

Last night on my local news, one particularly ignorant babbling meat sack in a suit went on and on about "how incomprehensible it is for a regular citizen to own a military-based handgun". "what possible legal use could there be?"

Right now, blathering idiots just like him are deciding the fate of the second amendement. While I wholeheartedly agree that some refinements and improvements desperately need to be made in gun laws and loopholes, I fear that some serious mistakes are about to be made out of IGNORANCE and fear.


Jeff-

Here's an interesting article, not the mysterious crash but the anti-depressant usage:
http://www.naturalnews.com/038616_jo...car_crash.html

More fodder on statistics:



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