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Vegas69 01-26-2010 09:08 PM

I spent a few hours in the garage tonight mainly working on plumbing the AC. Basically figuring out the cleanest way to route all my hoses and wiring and what fittings and extra hose I needed to order. I think I have a solid game plan that should look clean but easy to work on.

I also went down and picked up my condensor brackets. They turned out perfect. I designed them so they wouldn't restrict any air flow to the radiator but only required two bolts to hold in the condensor. It's 1/4 aluminum which is probably a little over kill but I plan on some pretty sustained high speed in this car. They will get the krylon touch so they disappear and more appropriate hardware.
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...sorpics002.jpg
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...sorpics003.jpg
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...sorpics004.jpg

DFRESH 01-26-2010 09:19 PM

T, when is the new mondo radiator suppossed to show up? Please get pics of it also---looking forward to the setup of the oil cooler portion of that. Are you plugging in a power steering cooler as well?

Doug

KPC67 01-26-2010 09:30 PM

Thats a neat idea

Vegas69 01-26-2010 09:32 PM

The oil cooler portion will be a piece of cake. I'm using an internal 12 plate heat exchanger with 12AN connections. I decided to go this direction mainly due to packaging. The engine t stat will regulate the oil temp and require no oil stat. The jury is out whether it will cut the chase on extended road racing. With the new aluminum block, double pass radiator, 13 qts of semi synthetic oil, I feel it will be plenty for what I intend to do with the car. I have no current plans for a power steering cooler but there will be room now if I end up needing it. I've got the turn 1 pump now that's under driven at high rpm. If I have problems, it wil get one.

70rs 01-26-2010 10:03 PM

Nice work on the brackets there Todd.
What do you have going in place for the radiator?

MarkM66 01-27-2010 07:02 AM

Work out a deal with V/A, send them the specs to those brackets, and they give you a cut of the profits.

Yours is so much better.

waynieZ 01-27-2010 01:57 PM

The brackets look great, with easy access to them.

Vegas69 01-27-2010 02:10 PM

The brackets cost about $60 so I doubt Vintage Air would be to excited about the venture. :D As soon as I get the radiator, I'll post some pics. Should have it in a couple weeks.

Vegas69 01-27-2010 04:44 PM

Jason over at Pettis Performance sent me some photos today. He's right on schedule.

In the first two photos the block is being decked and bored.
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...oringblock.jpg
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...ckingblock.jpg

The factory lifter brackets bosses have been removed so he can install screens.
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...thtowers-1.jpg
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...tingtowers.jpg

Vegas69 01-27-2010 04:47 PM

Here is the port work. The chambers, intake, and exhaust ports have been reworked.
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...novalvejob.jpg
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http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...nnerported.jpg
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Vegas69 01-27-2010 04:50 PM

It looks like he massaged the crank....I'll have to ask.
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...crankshaft.jpg

waynieZ 01-27-2010 04:55 PM

Who would have thought a big hunk of aluminum could be so pretty! Very nice Todd.

Aschle 01-27-2010 05:28 PM

Very nice !!! What sort of #'s are you expecting out of it?

Jason

tones2SS 01-28-2010 10:24 AM

Awesome Todd.
Should be a blast to drive when complete!!:thumbsup: :cheers:

skatinjay27 01-28-2010 03:58 PM

hell Im even more scared to go for a ride!!!:lol:

Vegas69 01-28-2010 04:35 PM

That's alright, we'll just get you some depends and life insurance. :rofl:

GregWeld 01-28-2010 05:41 PM

Geez -- Too bad about that hairline fracture... You see it... right there... no lower... :rofl:

The felt pen "name" on the counterweight will probably throw it out of balance.

Vegas69 01-28-2010 08:52 PM

That ain't funny Weld.

89 RS 01-28-2010 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 265567)
Geez -- Too bad about that hairline fracture... You see it... right there... no lower... :rofl:

The felt pen "name" on the counterweight will probably throw it out of balance.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 265635)
That ain't funny Weld.


:lol: You guys are not right.

waynieZ 01-28-2010 10:03 PM

Todd keep the pictures coming ,its winter up here in the North East not sunny like in Vegas. I need something to get me through the dark cold days till spring.

tones2SS 01-29-2010 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skatinjay27 (Post 265543)
hell Im even more scared to go for a ride!!!:lol:

AJ, is this because of Todd's driving or his new "monster" engine?!?! lollll..:lol:
Just kidding Todd. I'm anxious to see and hear this bad boy!!:thumbsup: :cheers:

g356gear 02-04-2010 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 130617)

Hey Todd,
Where did you find those plug wire insulators?

GregWeld 02-04-2010 04:44 PM

You can find them here in colors ---


http://cableorganizer.com/insultherm-spark/


But I'd check Summit Racing...

GregWeld 02-04-2010 06:00 PM

Here ya go -- I'm doing Todd's secretarial work now...

These are available from Summit Racing... $16. I post the black versions but they also have colors.


http://www.summitracing.com/parts/DEI-010511/

Vegas69 02-04-2010 08:09 PM

Thank you Greg for your considerable skills. I wouldn't run wires under the header again. The photo is a header setup for a stock subframe, my new headers are tighter. I have my engine torn down and after inspecting all the wires and boots it was a matter of time before I had a misfire. Mine will be along the valve cover rail. Function then form for me.

chr2002ca 02-05-2010 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 267298)
...I wouldn't run wires under the header again...

Agreed. I spent countless hours trying to get my wires running under the headers and still went through 2 sets before giving up and running them along the valve covers also.

I hope your new engine is coming along nicely Todd! :hail:

redfire69 02-05-2010 07:33 AM

Awesome engine Todd. What BBC headers do you guys recommend w stock SF and a steering box? Do they all have to be "clearanced"?

Aschle 02-05-2010 07:42 AM

Granted, I have a small block, but in my 91' Camaro I have my wires run underneathe the headers and they are doing great. I routed them that way back in 99' :thumbsup:

Jason

Vegas69 02-05-2010 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redfire69 (Post 267359)
Awesome engine Todd. What BBC headers do you guys recommend w stock SF and a steering box? Do they all have to be "clearanced"?

You can't beat a set of Lemons. Mine fit perfect.

Jason, I'm running 2 1/8 primaries(Bigger than most cars exhaust) and the headers must hug the block tight for the steering shaft. The factory ran them under in many of the late model small block applications. Two different ball games. The last thing I want is to develop a misfire in the middle of a race or cruise. I always carried an extra plug and wire just because I knew it was a compromise for cleanliness.

chr2002ca 02-05-2010 09:17 AM

Same deal with me. Big block with 2" primaries and they hug the block close due to my steering box(and I would not recommend Hedman headers). Passenger side was easy on the wires. Driver's side was a nightmare, no matter how strategic I was or how much heat shielding I used. It just wasn't meant to be.

redfire69 02-05-2010 09:58 AM

Thanks guys, appreciate the quick replies! :lateral:

Vegas69 02-06-2010 08:43 PM

I spent most of the afternoon in the garage. My engine dyno is tenantively scheduled for next Monday so I'm trying to get a head start.:D I insulated the firewall and cowl with second skin dyna pro. I've got the AC/Heat all mocked up and all the routing and fittings figured out. I'll have the unit back under the dash next week and get the wiring buttoned up. I'm going to wait until the engine is in to plumb everything else. I did get the condensor brackets painted and installed. It disappears nicely. I wired in another LED in series with the current high beam LED. It was just to bright at night. This will cut the voltage in half and it should be about right. I just shrink wrapped it so it won't emit light. I also cut the hole for the oil temp gauge between the speedo and tach. That wasn't fun, one mistake and it needed repainted. Turned out nice. I also played with pedeal ratios. I drilled a hole 5/8 higher which takes it from a current 8:1 ratio to a 12.4:1. Basically cutting pedal pressure needed by a 1/3rd. The side effect is less piston travel per stroke. After mocking it up and measuring, I decided to stay with the current setup. If I decide to go to a 1" bore master later, this hole would give me the same pedal feel with more volume. The dash insert is back in and I'll get the radio and steering column back in the insert tomorrow.

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...ate2610001.jpg
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Lenie 02-06-2010 09:30 PM

Todd you get more done in a weekend then I do in a month. It's looking good, looking forward to seeing it when it's completed but then again, I also liked it before the remodel. Man I need to throw my couch away.:lol:

DFRESH 02-06-2010 09:43 PM

T, are you running the cable operated Vintage Air? Trying to determine if those knobs you have which control the AC/Heater functions operate the cables or do they hook up via wires?

Doug

Vegas69 02-06-2010 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenie (Post 267713)
Todd you get more done in a weekend then I do in a month. It's looking good, looking forward to seeing it when it's completed but then again, I also liked it before the remodel. Man I need to throw my couch away.:lol:

Ya, I even left out some stuff. :rofl: I find myself scrutinizing my previous work. I added some mesh to a couple areas of the dash harness that may rub through in say 100,000 miles. LOL I wired the new gauge through the connector. American autowire doesn't sell the terminals but they were nice enough to send me a few for free. It's scary, the car is really getting close to being 100% done.

Vegas69 02-06-2010 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DFRESH (Post 267715)
T, are you running the cable operated Vintage Air? Trying to determine if those knobs you have which control the AC/Heater functions operate the cables or do they hook up via wires?

Doug

I'm running a Gen IV unit and it's electric. It's a pretty slick set up. I only need to run one wire through the firewall so it's going to be an ultra clean install. I already had wired in a ground from the fan relays for the trinary switch.

MWCC 02-07-2010 07:48 AM

Todd,

I love following your progress. Very thorough and great attention to detail. I know what you mean about the brightness of the LED. In the past I have installed a regular incandescent bulb in-line to draw some voltage and it really cut down the LED brightness.

You say your almost done with your car?? Are you sure you want to stick with that statement?:thumbsup:

Vegas69 02-07-2010 08:09 AM

For now...:D

MWCC 02-07-2010 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 267746)
For now...:D

Spoken like a true gearhead!! :cheers:

DFRESH 02-07-2010 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 267718)
Ya, I even left out some stuff. :rofl: I find myself scrutinizing my previous work. I added some mesh to a couple areas of the dash harness that may rub through in say 100,000 miles. LOL I wired the new gauge through the connector. American autowire doesn't sell the terminals but they were nice enough to send me a few for free. It's scary, the car is really getting close to being 100% done.

Was that last sentence for Kelli or what? :lol:


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