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syborg tt 03-12-2017 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandro's 1969 502 Camaro (Post 655542)
Marty, this car just keeps getting better and better, love all the ARP hardware too.



Sandro



Morning Sandro

Thank you very much and since I really don't have time or the desire right now to build another car my plan is to update this car four or five times before it gets really nice paint. This way I can enjoy it and not worry about a new project.


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syborg tt 03-12-2017 06:15 AM

One thing that has always bothered me with old cars is how close the seats are to the dash. I remember as a kid my buddy's father built a set of set back plates so he could fit behind the wheel. He also built another set to lift the seat up an 1.5" higher for his daughter. All I need to feel comfortable is to slide the seat all the way back and a different dish on the steering wheel. However, if someone other then me were to drive the car and they happens to be taller then me they are going to want slide the seat back much further.

I was about to make a set when I noticed that Ricks Camaro stocks such and item. So I figure I might as well order them to see if I would like them. I did the passenger side first since the car was backed in on my lift and of course they made a big difference.

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Quick test fitting and I determined I would need longer hardware. I just hate it when I come up short by a 1/4 of an inch. It's a good thing the local Sears is only one mile away. For now I picked four 1.5'' x 5/16 Grade 8 bolts so I could finish the project today.

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From this pictures you can see just how much further back the seat is and when you sit in the passenger seat you no longer feel like your right on top of the dash. It's amazing the difference few inches will make.

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Next up is to order all of the correct ARP hardware from the guys at Totally Stainless and of course have Mr Trim make me a set of trim pieces to cover up the set back plates. Hopefully something simple or maybe I will make a fiberglass piece and spray it with some wrinkle paint to make it look factory.

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This pictures lets you see just how much of a difference these plates have made.

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That's all for now folks.

syborg tt 03-13-2017 03:02 PM

I finally picked up the new bolts from Fastenal now my seat studs will be the correct length.

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fleet 03-13-2017 03:35 PM

Marty,

I sense a cohesive interior design plan unfolding before us.

Are you sure that's a good thing?


:P

syborg tt 03-19-2017 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cosmo mentis (Post 655782)
Marty,



I sense a cohesive interior design plan unfolding before us.



Are you sure that's a good thing?





:P



Oh I've got a few thoughts spinning around in my head.


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WSSix 03-19-2017 01:43 PM

Wow, you wanted the seats further back than stock? Don't ever jump in my TA or any vehicle I drive without checking the seat first then. Compared to you, I sit on the steering wheel. I'm 6' with a 31" inseam, wear a 32/33 shirt, and can't imagine trying to drive the car with the seat all the way back.

Doing good work as always, Marty.

bonecrrusher 04-30-2017 10:48 AM

Nice updates Marty!

I hadn't seen the cage install - that looks badass!

I've been slammed with this LSA install on my SS.

syborg tt 06-12-2017 09:40 AM

I can finally start updating again as I have been fighting with my old hosting company ( Site5 or should I call them sh!t5 ) as they locked me out and would't let me access my sites.

So if you are in need of web hosting stay away from site5 - they suck !!!

syborg tt 06-20-2017 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WSSix (Post 656110)
Wow, you wanted the seats further back than stock? Don't ever jump in my TA or any vehicle I drive without checking the seat first then. Compared to you, I sit on the steering wheel. I'm 6' with a 31" inseam, wear a 32/33 shirt, and can't imagine trying to drive the car with the seat all the way back.



Doing good work as always, Marty.



lol it's more for the taller guys with long legs that I slid the seats back. I'm only one click back from stock and it feels great.


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syborg tt 06-20-2017 07:26 PM

Moving on the front suspension.

First step was to clean it and the start taking it apart so I could install the ARP bolts with stainless Nylock nuts.

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We also needed to cut the ears out of the spring pockets as there was some interference with the Ride-Tech shocks. While I was in there we sprayed a little Eastwood chassis black rust inhibitors up in the pocket.

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There's a good story here but make sure you buy at least two of them if you need to finish a project.

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Yes we bought two on the 2nd trip.

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That would be Mike cutting and getting metal shavings all over him.

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The ARP hardware was supplied in kit form from the guy's at Totally Stainless. Very nice and it helps to keep you organized while your working on the car.

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We're all good now. Time to start the assembly.

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Bummer steering box bolts area little short.

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Moving on.

We had to drill out the sleeves for the ARP Bolts as the 1/2 bolts would not slide through the sleeve.

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That silver you see is this nightmare sh!t. Just ask Mike and no Mikey doesn't like that anti-seize at all.

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syborg tt 06-20-2017 07:33 PM

Last week Dennis at High Speed Welding needed a car for a local Cruise Night (Insert Chevy Night) that he was sponsoring. Since they did a bunch of work on the car prior to it going to Kenny's. My car was the perfect choice for him. Of course Mike & I only finished the drivers side of the car and more importantly the car didn't have working brake lights. So the brakes light became the priority. To add to the time crunch I only had one nigh to get the brake light work as my daughter was graduating 8th grade the next day.

So a quick trip out to the garage when I got home from work at 8:30pm and I dove right into trying to figure out the issue.

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Good news is it was a simple fix it was only a bad ground and loose bulb.

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The next day I dropped the car off 1 hour before we had to leave for graduation and I picked the car up after graduation.

The one thing that bothered me was the fact that I didn't have time to Install the seat belts.

So that will be the next project.


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WSSix 06-21-2017 06:56 PM

lol, I used that same POS cut off wheel from Harbor Freight to cut my subframe for the same reason. Worth every penny though even if I never use it again. I had no other way to make those cuts to get the coil overs in place.

syborg tt 06-21-2017 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WSSix (Post 661064)
lol, I used that same POS cut off wheel from Harbor Freight to cut my subframe for the same reason. Worth every penny though even if I never use it again. I had no other way to make those cuts to get the coil overs in place.



I glad we feel the same way. I gave Mike the extra one as one day he may need it and I kinda felt bad the he volunteered to cut it for me.


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syborg tt 06-21-2017 08:33 PM

Moving on I wanted to connect the Seat Belt Planet harness's to the factory floor location and the Ride-Tech Tiger Cage.

Step one pull the seats back and then locate the factory holes in the floor. ( Third or Fourth time now since the car has been home )

Thankfully I have a lift so poking a hole from the underside is fairly easy to do.

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Since the car is on the lift I had to climb up a ladder to get back to the inside of the car so I could widen the hole in the carpet.

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Time to clean up the threads as they have a little bit of bed liner in them. Of course when your spinning a tap you catch the padding and some or the wool carpet.

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Quick trip to Sears hardware to get a flange bolt and two nuts.

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Added a couple grade 8 washers from my hardware collection.

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The next step was fun trying to locate the holes on the rocker side. Yep this side is going to be difficult s the carpet is glued down and I can barely squeeze my hand under the door bars on the tiger cage. So I gently peal back the carpet, stuff my hand down under the carpet and had to feel for a hole.

Found it!!

Now I have to poke a hole in the carpet and good news I only had to poke it 3 or 4 times.

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Belt is in.

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One final detail that not a sole will ever see unless the car is on a lift. I added a flange nut on the inside of the trans tunnel as I felt the bolt sticking out looked unfinished.

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jcadwell 06-21-2017 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syborg tt (Post 655709)
One thing that has always bothered me with old cars is how close the seats are to the dash. I remember as a kid my buddy's father built a set of set back plates so he could fit behind the wheel. He also built another set to lift the seat up an 1.5" higher for his daughter. All I need to feel comfortable is to slide the seat all the way back and a different dish on the steering wheel but if someone other then me drives the car that happens to be taller then me they are going to want slide the seat back much further.

I was about to make a set when I noticed a set on Ricks Camaro. So I order a set to see if I would like them. I did the passenger side first since the car was backed in on my lift.


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4ca265f62e.jpg


Quick test fitting and I determined I would need longer hardware. I just hate it when I come up short by a 1/4 of an inch. It's a good thing the local Sears is only onemile away. For now I picked us four 1.5'' x 5/16 Grade 8 bolts. So I could finish the project today.


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...cd27d1c641.jpg


From this pictures you can see just how much further back the seat is and when you sit in the passenger seat you no longer feel like your right on top of the dash. It's amazing the difference few inches will make.


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...e91dc8ea68.jpg


Next up is to order all of the correct ARP hardware for the guys at Totally Stainless and of course have Mr Trim make me a set of trim pieces to cover up the set back plates. Hopefully something simple or maybe I will make a fiberglass piece and spray it with some wrinkle paint to make it look factory.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...fe54487f76.jpg


This pictures lets you see just how much of a difference these plates have made.


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...80fcc5ef31.jpg


That's all for now folks.


Marty-

This is a great build. I've got my old '70 1/2 RS camaro from high school I'm restoring. I'm 6'5" and really appreciate the seat relocation brackets you used. Those are definitely going in my car too.

Also will be using the TMI seats you used. Did TMI make the headrest for you to match the '70 original? Didn't really like the TMI headrests they offer, so glad to see you were able to arrive at a better option. They look great.

grendel 06-22-2017 05:58 AM

Why not put the seat belts on the tiger cage?

syborg tt 06-22-2017 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcadwell (Post 661071)
Marty-

This is a great build. I've got my old '70 1/2 RS camaro from high school I'm restoring. I'm 6'5" and really appreciate the seat relocation brackets you used. Those are definitely going in my car too.

Also will be using the TMI seats you used. Did TMI make the headrest for you to match the '70 original? Didn't really like the TMI headrests they offer, so glad to see you were able to arrive at a better option. They look great.

Thank and the set back plates are way overpriced but I didn't have time to make them.

As for the seats / headrest. Yes TMI did both. I can send you there Concept drawings and pattern numbers if you like. So when you call them you can reference my order.

Martinjmcguire at Comcast.net



Quote:

Originally Posted by grendel (Post 661083)
Why not put the seat belts on the tiger cage?


I will be using the the harness bar on the Tiger cage for the shoulder restraints. Just didn't have the correct 7/16" hardware.



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syborg tt 06-22-2017 10:37 AM

The Ride-Tech sway bar comes powdered coated in a black wrinkle finish which is very nice. However, I like to be a little different and I felt I needed to change it just a little bit and a color change should do the trick.

A quick to Pro-Tek powder coating in Joliet so Jay could strip the old powder off and then powder it in his brightest Red.

What a difference.

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btw this thing weighs a ton.


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syborg tt 06-24-2017 05:49 PM

My plan was to install the sway bar myself so I wrapped it in blue painters tape.

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Next up was to lay out the hardware.

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Need to call the guys at Totally Stainless as the sway bar end link bolts & sleeves where both short.

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I quickly realized that I needed help so I asked my wife for a little help.

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syborg tt 06-24-2017 06:05 PM

My plan is to swap out all the sheet metal hardware with ARP / Totally Stainless body hardware. First up where the inner fender bolts that attached the carbon liners to the fenders.

The stock bolts just look nasty and needed to be replaced.

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I intentional ordered these bolts longer then needed as I plan to install an ARP 6 point nut and washer.

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Since the front wheels were off this was the perfect time to actually clean the wheels.

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Now I have to take the rears off as the fronts look so much better




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syborg tt 06-24-2017 06:06 PM

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syborg tt 06-29-2017 09:01 PM

Still plugging away at all the little stuff.

Ordered a few more ARP nuts, bolts & washers. I wanted to finish up the hardware under the hood and I didn't care for the bolts poking up into the engine bay.

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I also installed the final four bolts in the Ride-Tech Tiger Cage. Now my harness's are secure.

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syborg tt 06-29-2017 09:03 PM

I also started cleaning the rear tires.

It's hard to believe the tires were this dirty

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waynieZ 06-30-2017 07:58 AM

I love me the look of some ARP bling!! Nice.

extralight 07-02-2017 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syborg tt (Post 661460)
I also started cleaning the rear tires.

It's hard to believe the tires were this dirty

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How did you clean the tires Marty? They look great!

syborg tt 07-04-2017 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by extralight (Post 661558)
How did you clean the tires Marty? They look great!



Soap and water first then I let the dry for a day. Then I sprayed the entire tire with no-touch tire cleaner by Armor all. Let's it soak in for an hour and then wiped them dry.

Then I used good old Mothers quick detailer on the rims.


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glassman 07-04-2017 08:00 AM

Why couldn't u just drive it in the monsoon's you've been getting? its just water lol

Spiffav8 07-04-2017 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syborg tt (Post 661459)
Still plugging away at all the little stuff.

Ordered a few more ARP nuts, bolts & washers. I wanted to finish up the hardware under the hood and I didn't care for the bolts poking up into the engine bay.

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I also installed the final four bolts in the Ride-Tech Tiger Cage. Now my harness's are secure.

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Looks sharp!

syborg tt 08-16-2017 07:25 PM

Good news my daughter Kenzie and I took the 70 out for a shake down and good news we only had one loose bolt when we returned home and it was cosmetic.

Still have bunch to do but that's the fun part about having one of these cars.

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glassman 08-16-2017 07:51 PM

Will chains fit? Hate to see it get put away...when cold comes...:action-smiley-027:

syborg tt 08-19-2017 03:54 PM

Funny thing is it only snowed three or four times last winter. So I might not need chains.


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syborg tt 05-27-2018 12:01 PM

Okay it’s been a long time since I did an update. So here is just a quickie. What started out as a fuel line leak turned into a while we are here moment.

Long story short the rear diff is out and heading to the powder coater. Once I get garagescene.net back up I’ll post up more pictures.

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fleet 05-27-2018 04:26 PM

Wow...just wow.

:shakehead:

9 months...we deserve so much more.


:P

syborg tt 08-30-2018 09:17 AM

So since I accidentally posted this in (70 Camaro's) build thread which I noticed yesterday and yes I feel horrible about doing that because well i just do. Plus his car is so awesome and if you haven't seen it go look at it.

https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php?t=51291

Just look at this beast, it's freaking awesome and when I finally paint my car a color I am seriously going to consider painting it red like his car.

This is not my car it's (70 Camaro's car) and i just realized I don't know his name.

https://lateral-g.net/forums/attachm...1&d=1535327225

Okay so back to my 10 footer

Since this project was never designed to be finished and would be something that I could work on f or years. It’s time to move to the
next stage of wrapping the headers and installing DEI heat shields on top of the mufflers as the rear floor gets a little hot from the mufflers.

So let’s not talk about why we had to cut the exhaust and just say that slip fit was a bad idea.

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As you can see Mike looks very serious.

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Thank you again Mike for all of your help.

syborg tt 08-30-2018 09:19 AM

Moving on to the header removal. Okay let’s just say this design worked perfectly as it was a 20 minute job to remove them.

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When they go back in there will be ARP Header Studs going back in.

Just a quick shot of the Powder Coated rear end. Need to take inventory of all the hardware and order the new ARP 6 point stainless bolts and new EBC rotors in black.

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syborg tt 08-30-2018 09:20 AM

Almost forgot that I worked on three fat bikes and did a carbon bar swap on Mikes 27.5 mid-fat bike.

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These three posts where from July 15th

waynieZ 09-01-2018 07:28 PM

I loved riding street bikes in my younger day, only difference is now I need seat from a 50's Super Glide. You know the one that's about the size of a trailer fifth wheel...........

syborg tt 09-04-2018 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 682932)
I loved riding street bikes in my younger day, only difference is now I need seat from a 50's Super Glide. You know the one that's about the size of a trailer fifth wheel...........



Lately I’m feeling the need to buy one of those.


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fleet 09-04-2018 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syborg tt (Post 683034)
Lately I’m feeling the need to buy one of those.


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You do need to buy a new bike or sumthun...Bruh.

:P

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syborg tt 09-07-2018 07:25 PM

So the header are back from getting coated and the down tubes are wrapped in DEI Ti Thermal wrap. I also added studs to make it even easier to install the headers which takes all of 10 minutes for both sides.

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