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spddmnjay 08-28-2007 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by krptonite
neat project, you are going to say goodbye to a large part of the firewall and probably the wiper drive system too! when i fitted one in a 70 cuda i took the firewall back about 5 inches as it is a really long motor with the accessories on the front too, what will you use for a harness? we used a street and performance one but had quite a few errors with wires being the wrong way in plugs etc but it worked in the end . another thing to consider is the mufflers as normal v8 ones make it sound wierd and if you can fit the viper ones in then use them. the power didnt seem to impress me too much as they are only approx 450hp but the torque, jeez!! you cant help but smile! we fitted a heidts irs but the drive shafts twisted 90 degrees in the first week!! so had to upgrade to beefier units. if you need any info i will try to help, and you could look on our website, lowdownhotrods.com and look up paul lauffert 70 cuda in the " what weve done" section, good luck with your project, it will be great when done.

I never liked the factory firewall anyway. :D I've done a lot of research on the engine and transmission size, etc. The Viper engine is approximately 6" longer than a Ford 302 engine. The Viper engine is actually narrower and not as tall as a Ford 302. I own a 1996 Viper GTS Venom 550 Hennessey and have been taking many measurements from it. I also purchased a Gen. II Viper crate installation manual. This book provides all the dimensions for the Viper engine, T56 transmission and identifies all the parts (including part numbers) that are required to install a Viper crate engine into a hot rod or custom car. This resource is awesome. Even lists a wiring harness that can be purchased from Dodge that is specifically for the Viper crate engine install. This wiring harness is specific to a hot rod or custom install and does not have all the other connectors, etc. that a Viper requires.

I really appreciate you telling me about the Cuda/Viper project. I will definitely look at the website and the build. Expect a phone call from me. :cheers:

Jason

andrewmp6 08-28-2007 11:31 PM

i think your nuts you got alot of work to do keep us updated.

Vince@Meanstreets 08-28-2007 11:56 PM

crazy i tell you...viper rear wheel track=75" fastback rear wheel track=64"

I love wheel flares don't you! Are you going to narrow the frame or control amrs? Nice thing about Viper stub shafts is that they are adjustable.

spddmnjay 08-29-2007 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab
crazy i tell you...viper rear wheel track=75" fastback rear wheel track=64"

I love wheel flares don't you! Are you going to narrow the frame or control amrs? Nice thing about Viper stub shafts is that they are adjustable.

Hello Vince, I have a 96 Viper GTS and it lists the front track width as 59.6" and the rear track width as 60.6". I have spoken with Louie @ G-Machine and he is currently building a 66 Mustang. If I can remember correctly, Louie has suggested that the Mustang track width is appx. 56-57".

I will have Louie do all the suspension engineering for me when I am ready.

krptonite 08-29-2007 04:47 PM

we planned to buy the dodge stand alone harness for retrofitting the viper motor but when we tried to obtain one we were informed that it is no longer available so it may be worth trying a dealer near you to see if this is still so, it may or may not be a big project for you to do, as it all depends on your abilities but it will be worth it just for the uniqueness of the project, good luck with a harness,

spddmnjay 08-29-2007 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by krptonite
we planned to buy the dodge stand alone harness for retrofitting the viper motor but when we tried to obtain one we were informed that it is no longer available so it may be worth trying a dealer near you to see if this is still so, it may or may not be a big project for you to do, as it all depends on your abilities but it will be worth it just for the uniqueness of the project, good luck with a harness,

I just spoke with my local Dodge dealer today and apparently I can still order the harness. I guess there is one in Michigan right now. Thanks for the heads up! :thumbsup:

andrewmp6 08-29-2007 08:26 PM

it would fit under the body but youll need to play with the back spacing to get the wheels under the car.

spddmnjay 09-10-2007 09:02 AM

I removed the cylinder heads from my 96 Viper GTS and thought you might like to see what the engine looks like when the heads are off. Now you know why I want to install a Viper V10 into my Mustang. :hail:

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spddmnjay 01-24-2008 09:16 AM

Well I sold my Mustang. This project is no more.

I recently decided that I simply don't have the time for this project and must concentrate all my efforts on finishing my Viper.

I want to thank all the members for their input and enthusiasim with this project :thumbsup:

Cheers
Jason


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