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CRCRFT78 02-15-2009 12:14 PM

This is F***** UP. I was planning on getting my 6yr old daughter one to start riding. F***ING GOVERNMENT SUCKS!

skooli 02-22-2009 11:18 PM

There's a ton of channels for signing petitions to fix this mess. Just go to transworldmx.com or racerxill.com and they have links to follow. Also if you google "Let Kids Ride", hundreds of links will pop up.

My kid WILL have a new PW 50 on his next birthday. I've been looking forward to sharing motocross with my kids my entire adult life. We'll beat this.:thumbsup:

almcbri 02-23-2009 07:01 AM

There is an update on this that came out a few days ago. All inventory and bikes can be put back on the floors for 1 year.

All these manufacturers are going to have to rethink the ppm of lead contained, because they are going to place restrictions. At least they are not cutting it off for good. The more research and studies involved the higher the cost to the general public.

JETSET700 02-24-2009 09:49 AM

It's much better for america's kids to stay in the house playing on video games based on death & violence & destruction causing them to get fat, become a diabetic in their teens and later become a burden to society.

Anyone remember the "Presidents Plan for Physical Fitness" in the 70's.
All the students had to do the calesthenics for time etc. Now many schools
don't even have PE at all. "I don't want my child to go through the humiliation that I did" It's the American coalition of uncoordinated goobers
picked last for the team" Where is Lou Dobbs?

Peter

jonny51 02-25-2009 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by almcbri (Post 197416)
There is an update on this that came out a few days ago. All inventory and bikes can be put back on the floors for 1 year.

All these manufacturers are going to have to rethink the ppm of lead contained, because they are going to place restrictions. At least they are not cutting it off for good. The more research and studies involved the higher the cost to the general public.

Really,I can't find any info about the bikes being back on the floor?Also if you look on thier websites the bikes are gone."Yamaha's site even says "temporarily not for sale"Where did you get this info?

almcbri 02-25-2009 02:28 PM

My brother got an email forwarded from his manufacturer stating that it had been lifted for 1 year. I will see if he can shoot me the actual letter.

jonny51 03-21-2009 01:56 PM

Still not lifted.......this is a great video.....

http://www.vitalmx.com/photos/featur...,17458/GuyB,64

awr68 03-21-2009 02:05 PM

Good vid Jon! It's certainly a BS deal! Keep us informed!!

jonny51 04-17-2009 08:26 PM

http://www.cpsc.gov/pr/moore041609.pdf


STATEMENT OF THE HONORABLE THOMAS H. MOORE
ON THE PETITION FOR TEMPORARY FINAL RULE
TO EXCLUDE A CLASS OF MATERIALS UNDER SECTION 101(b) OF
THE CONSUMER PRODUCT SAFETY IMPROVEMENT ACT OF 2008 (CPSIA)
April 16, 2009
I am aware of the speculation that has surrounded my vote on this issue. My staff has spent the
time since the ballot came to the Commission working on what I believe is a good solution for the riders
of youth motorized recreational vehicles, building and expanding upon the initial position taken by
Acting Chairman Nord. The direction my colleague and I are giving to the staff today balances the
Congressional desire to protect children from unnecessary contact with leaded components in these
vehicles with the need to protect those same children from the potential for physical injury related to
riding inappropriate adult-sized vehicles, or riding vehicles either in need of repair or less structurally
sound than the ones currently on the market.
It is clear from the post-enactment statements of some Members of Congress who were
Conferees on the CPSIA that they believe the Commission has the authority to make sensible
allowances for these vehicles as long as child safety is not compromised. Given the extremely
restrictive language of the law, the only avenue I can see is for the Commission to establish an
enforcement plan that follows, to the greatest extent possible, the Act’s intention for future production,
while providing relief to the industry and the riding community for vehicles already manufactured and
those manufactured during the stay. There are compelling safety arguments that justify a stay of
enforcement.
It is ironic that I am defending vehicles that I consider to be dangerous for children under 12 to
ride and which contain accessible parts with excess levels of lead. However, the alternatives appear to
be more dangerous. American parents seem to be willing to accept the risk for their children riding
these vehicles, so it is the agency’s task, at this stage, to ensure that the vehicles are as safe as possible.
One safety rule the agency has stressed is keeping children off of adult-sized ATVs.1 To the extent that
new children’s ATVs cannot currently meet the lead limits in the CPSIA, there is the likelihood that
parents seeking new vehicles will buy adult-sized ATVs for their children to use. We have also been
notified by one ATV manufacturer that they are simply relabeling their Y-6+ and Y-10+ youth ATVs as
Y-12+, removing the speed limiting device and continuing to sell them. Thus the vehicles that are more
accurately sized for younger children will be less safe because of their ability to attain higher speeds.
1 Most of my discussion is focused on the ATV industry as they present the greatest (lead and non-lead) safety challenges.
However, the enforcement program will also apply to children’s off-road motorcycles and snowmobiles.
Page 2
The other part of the safety equation that helps balance an enforcement plan against the increased
lead exposure it allows, is based on the assertions that certain vehicle components cannot be made with
lead below a certain level without compromising the structural integrity (or another safety element) of
the component. The enforcement plan of the Commission must require concrete data from the
manufacturers on this point to justify their continued use of lead in excess of the applicable lead limit.
The industry has pointed to the European Union’s RoHS and ELV Directives as a guide for what
lead reductions or substitutions may be technologically infeasible for their youth vehicles. While we
might not need to allow the high lead limits allowed in those Directives for all components, there is
guidance to be taken in how the European system is administered. They set an expiration date for their
exemptions. Prior to that expiration date it is up to industry to come in and make their case that it is still
technologically infeasible to reduce lead to a level at which an exemption is no longer required. The
evidence considered is strictly limited to technological feasibility, not on the higher cost of a viable
substitute. The guiding principle for this agency’s determinations has to be the safety of the children
riding these vehicles.
I believe a stay of enforcement issued by the Commission should:
--relieve all makers, sellers, and distributors of youth motorized recreational
vehicles made to date and through the expiration date of the stay from enforcement
actions for failure to meet the lead limits of the CPSIA;
--allow those vehicles to be repaired, sold, traded, and otherwise used as they
have been;
--allow the sale, distribution and installation of replacement parts that are
comparable in lead levels to the old part being replaced until such time as those parts can
be brought into compliance;
--expect industry to bring their vehicle components into compliance on a
reasonable schedule, to the extent that is technologically feasible, and to provide us with
the detailed information we need to make informed decisions about those components in
the future.
The Commission simply cannot ignore the safety tradeoffs that could arise by not providing this
relief but it must also work with industry to bring the non-complying components of these youth
vehicles as close to the lead limits established by law as is currently technologically feasible, to the
extent those parts cannot be made inaccessible. The Commission also needs to let the riding community
know that they can continue to use the vehicles they own as they always have.
I believe the approach taken today by myself and Acting Chairman Nord of directing the staff to
draft a Federal Register notice containing concrete elements of a stay is the reasonable approach that the
Congress is looking for us to take. I anticipate that the Commission will vote to approve it in the near
future.

WILWAXU 04-18-2009 07:15 AM

I started riding ATC's at ~8-10 yrs old. I got to see the the hysteria cause by the media in that industry. I still to this day will not watch an episode of 20/20.

Anyway to get a list of all the representatives that voted for the original bill?

Might be time for a letter writing campaign.


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