Not sure if this is what you are asking, but if you want to know why a race car would sell for less is that it is just unpractical to most people.

Does the value of John Parsons's "II Much" get hurt by the race inspired look.
Yes it does. Parson's car has been for sale a couple times and struggles to get near the amount of money it would take to duplicate. I swear if we painted it Tangelo Orange and put some shinny wheels on it, along with some trim, it would bring way more money. John and I have talked it to death, been together around the car. It simply is too subtle. An amazing car, but no "eyes" as we call it in the business. He knows so I am not speaking out of church.
So what is he doing? he is keeping it! Added A/C, got rid of the race inspired pulley set up and did a Front Runner, It has a stereo and interior, look for a wheel and trim change, even talked about a color change some day. But that is a far stretch

Did the value Bob Johnson's "G-force Cuda get hurt being driven when it sold at Barrett Jackson. I do not think it helped that is was driven, but even though it was driven, that car was run through Alan's shop just before the auction and was pretty damn crisp. Not all of us could afford to do that

Would the value of lets say "the Mule" be hurt by being on multiple Hot Rod Power tours and seeing some track time? Only the wear and tear on it, the Mule is starting to show it's miles just a bit, and Charlie has a real good time doing it. But it does not help the value at all.

Now the BIG exception, I disgree with you on one car Stuart. You talked about cars getting beat up and not bringing the money cause their raced to death!

I bet dollars to donuts if Stacy put her car for sale (which has been rode hard and put up wet, although maintained) it would set a world record for a car of its condition! Probably bring twice what anyone else in the world could get for the same car.

Anyway, to answer the original posters question, to much race inspiration will hurt ultimate value unless it is custom built for the owner. Resale is limited at best.

Just over 11,000 miles on the Mule. I have gotten my moneys worth of enjoyment out of it. Over 20,000 miles on the Red Witch. Ditto on the enjoyment. Buying someones show car and then trying to use it usually ends up being you that has to sort out all the problems. I would rather have a car that has had some use and avoid all the headaches.

Frank, I agree. And have believed that from day one about The 69 DSE camaro. That is what makes DSE so great, that car can be duplicated right out of their catalog or over the phone. That is what makes them so successful, its tried and tested. The blue 69 I had was set up just like that car, except for the motor right out of the catalog. Alot of guys, me at one time, buy multiple individual parts put them all together, test them, change this, change that, modify this, buy new that, etc etc. and finally after 2 years they have a dialed in car. They have done the work for us, plug and play in my book.

The Mule with 11k is very attractive. Tried and true and you could actually buy it and drive it.:thumbsup: What about the history of these cars. I have to compare it to an all original. It's been on TV, multiple power tours, multiple videos, someone is salivating over this car just waiting for a chance to buy it.

I do think what the original poster was actually asking is how far towards a race car can you go with your restoration and not limit the market. I think that has been answered here. It has to be competent on any track and capable of a power tour with the AC on and your favorite tunes playing in comfort.

The Mule will always be a special car to me no matter what the mileage

Remember the end of the Blues Brothers? Where the car gets them to their destination and then completely disintegrates? Those boys got their money's worth. Best to just keep your car, drive it into the ground, rebuild it. Repeat process over and over again.

A priceless car is one that's not for sale at any price. :yes:

get this!!! http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...D=SC0509-79418
race history wil give more valieuw afther decade,s
who will remember a bad Penny that never done anything then standing still being a beauty in 20 ore 30 years from now.. im pretty sure she will be with what she is doing today..
chek out Big Red Camaro. that car will be priceless in a couple of decade,s...

To All:

I'll try to firm this up a bit. Based on your input. (Pre 1976 Car allow a lot of leeway with the engines used on the cars)

There are "2 Types of Pro Touring Cars"

1) Racing Styles of Pro Touring Cars

An older (car prior to 1976) custom race car built to be run on the street, "Legally", but can also drive safely on multiple racetracks. Specific racing classes are not part of a Pro-touring cars, however some are designed to emulate specific Road Racing classes of the past, that help improve the overall theme and feel of the cars.

2) Street Styles of Pro Touring Cars

Cars (Originally built prior to 1976) that have conveniences normally associated with street only driven cars (a/c, P/S, P/B, Tilt Wheel, Carpet, comfortable seats etc.) However, these cars will also have successfully implemented many facets of racing technology. (Race inspired suspensions, brakes, engines etc.) The two technologies are balanced in an effort to create a comfortable fast and well handling sports car.

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Values of Both Types

Both Styles of Pro Touring Cars should bring comparable values based on the levels of finish, fit and components used in the build, along with the Type and Year of cars used. Last but not least, what the buyer is willing to pay for the car.

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Please let me know if this is fairly accurate based on the earlier references in this post.

Essentially, true "Pro Touring" cars should bring similar values. Deviations from one way or the other from these boundaries will create from a small to large deviations from the normal Valuation of these cars.

Does this satisfy the question?

if not,

Let me know where I'm wrong.

Thanks,

Ty

I think you are hyper-analyzing the subject, Ty. You can't do that with a hot rod. One might be inclined to combine 1 and 2.
In most cases, classification is a pendulum. Car A might lean towards the race side of the equation while car B might lean towards the street side of the equation.