Thanks Pete and Blake...

Good point about the seat base.

But I'm 5'8" so maybe that helps.

I want to run auto-x/road courses yet at the same time would prefer to install as unobtrusive and as minimum a cage as allowable. Although I don't know the details on it, I know Ridetech offers a bolt in cage now.

I figured going full frame would might help me avoid a permanent cage.

I need a lot more info obviously at this point. :)

Bottom line full chassis
More work but, much more trick
Were building one now 2000hp no cage

Ouch! :wow:

On a 1st gen Camaro?

66 chevelle

Come on Frank this is out of line subtract a "0" if your aggressively fast otherwise somewhere in the 200 range seems more like it.

The Chrysler 300 Troy and the boys put together wasnt no 1000hrs

I'm betting he was exaggerating just a little bit.

I caught this fish one time......................

I agree.
I've never seen it before. I like it.:wow: :thumbsup:

Just for another differing opinion.

I'm thinking a 1000 hours is alot and 100 hours if your sheetmetal work if going to be Bondo'd up. If memory serves me correct Alloway makes his floors out of 10 gauge steel.

I think a more reasonable number is maybe 400-500 hours with sheetmetal and tub work. I suppose you could build drag race 2 sides wheel tubes and glue the tub to the quarter panel, but we build the tub to have 3 sides and attach to the quarter like the factor one. I also think you have to take into account the fact you have to rework quite a few things. Gas tank needs new mounts, The brake pedal might drag on the floor or hang just a bit to low, Plus you cannot just shorten the pedal or you lose the ratio. You have to do new seat mounts in the floor. I'm sure there are a handful of other things that come up with doing a full frame especially in a camaro.

When We do the the tube frame stuff, we have to reinvent the wheel practically. Steering mounts different, brake pedals mount different, It is a never ending list of things that need to be changed to make things proper.
With the tube frame cars we build we are able to place the tube structure in a position to gain the most interior room. I'm 6'6" tall and can sit in John's ZO6 with a helmet on and the car has a rocker height of 5" and nothing hangs below that. But we ran the exhaust under the torque tube not under the seats. Plus the seats we have in Johns car are super tall. Putting seats in a stock camaro is hard enough if your above average height at all.


Just my 2 cents. We have a full tube frame we are building for a camaro right now. 5" of ground clearance, 47.5" to the roof at ride height with 19's and 20's. Should be interesting.

You're right, there are a lot of additional work to take into consideration going full frame.

I'm not going to run a cage because this car's main purpose is street use.

I still want it stiff enough to handle 600 bhp and occasional track use.