Same thing that happend to Andy (MARINE 1) .This is what $80.000 got him and the guy is still in buisness!!!!! Andy still has no car and lots of lawyer bills. The guy basicaly told him to go F@&K HIMSELF!!!!!! Just robbed the man of $80.000. This isn't half the pictures. I went with Andy last year and saw this beauty in person I wanted to puke!!! You should of heard this j@#koff's line's of bulls@#t. You would have thought he was Chip Foose...:mad:

You see.. I feel REALLY bad for someone that spends the $$$ for good work and get's crap than I do the guy that cheaps out and gets cheap work.

Getting robbed of $80k is a raw deal for sure.

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I had a so called builder for chatsworth ca. that done a mini tub and a custom engine bay. The engine bay was on the cover of hot rod, Yes it looked good but there was about 5 gallons of mud to shape the engine bay which at sema show was starting to crack, The list goes on The rear axle and rear rails were a total sh*t job the shocks were angled up over the axle and when the car traveled down the shocks would bind on the housing in fact just from trailering the camaro the shock adjusters were worn away, The top and bottom bolts were mount 90 degrees from each other and when the traveled the shock rods would bend, He also messed up the axle seals. Now the engine bay some of the welds were so weak I pulled out one panel by hand. He clearanced for the wipers but they hit and would not work. The firewall had holes into the interior so his fix was to fill them with foam spray but that still had some leaks, In fact I washed the car and more water was in the car than on the floor. the best part was the hood would not close since he made a custom radiator cover and it was a little to high and hit the hood. This list goes on and on.
This was a $50,000 bill for this work so big money does not always get a good job. I needed to post this so you fellow car guys stay far far awayfrom this builder.
I have the car back and cut the floors out and the engine bay. It is sucky feeling walking by the scrap bin and looking at my $50,000 and knowing its about $30.00 of scrap iron.

Randy

Thats SOOOO crazy... lol.
We too have a very high end build in the shop right now. The body came primed and "done"... but we had to cut into it to do some of the spoiler fab work. The car looked real clean. But there was about 1/2 inch of mud on the corner of the rear quarter. lol... it was junk. We had to order a new section... cut out the "finished" section... and start there. Pretty crazy because this dude paid good dough to a reputable shop. But now we know what kind of work that shop does....... Good for us, i guess.;)

How did that Mustang split?

I guess you got Bent over on that one

Our own buddy here is having a car fixed because of these same issues. Karma will be cool.

I bet you're sleeping like a baby right now. :unibrow:

I used to work for a guy (not building cars) who would do things like this and ask an arm and a leg for his crappy work. What goes around comes around as they say

there is absolutely nothing wrong with having a small shop building cars,some of the small shop projects can blow away the big shop's finished product,it takes some research and checking out their work in person. Most big shops have big overhead and in the end the customer pays for it,

There will always be crooks and butchers and naive fools with more money than brains, if they have no common sense,they should at least get a proffesional to check the car they are looking to buy.

That Mustang surely wasn't checked ,because putting it on the lift would provide more than enough evidence to stay away from it, because it would turn in horse shoe as soon as the lift or jack touch the rockers or floors of that rust bucket.

I'm simply defending small shops that do quality work,because I actually own a small shop and my customers get alot more than they actually paid for.

Alot of times I find myself fixing someone's half-ass work, and it makes me sick to see some of hack work.

Recent example,a year old Nissan GTR with small ding on fender and quarter panel was repaired and the whole side was painted including both bumpers,not one single piece of trim was removed, not even rear nameplate or the tag brackets ,which are held by 1 Phillip's head screw, there was so much dirt and fisheyes in the paint ,you'd get a better finish in the middle of desert sand storm, the tire dressing that was slung on the wheelwell edges wasn't even wiped off,let alone scuffed, I'm sure most of you get the picture. I've done alot of spot repair on brand new still in plastic cars for a local dealership, they also deal with a big franchise shop ,that had their SUV for over 6 months repairing side damage, in process of repair the vehicle caught on fire from idiots welding, that SUV still ended up at my shop for spot repairs for the damge that the shop caused, and till this day the dealership still takes their cars to that shop

Another example ,last fall I got a call from a guy ,that one of my Supra customers gave my number to, he was looking to buy a built Supra,being a Supra fanatic/collector/builder, I offered to build one for him to his specs,or if he gives me few days I could help him finding one ,but the guy had the patience of a 3 year old, needless to say,1 day fast forward ,he calls me to ask if he can bring his new Supra to check why it doesn't start, I get it in the air to check the stater,the power wire is hanging,lol, the whole underside is covered in fresh oil, crappy paint job ,even the battery got painted halfway,runs,trash,orangepeel, with poor attempt to sand and buff,leaving sanded and not buffed areas, poor fitting body panels,one big mess under the hood, speaker grille on door panels are glued on with some poop glue, Wal-Mart carpet pieces was just thrown in to cover the floor, radio does not work,right window does not go up, trunk floor has so much dirt,rust and gunk as some junk yard truck, radiator has rusty mud instead of coolant.

In less than a month I had to replace all A/C lines,because of crappy install of overflow tank causing the tank to rub through the lines and making a hole, replaced A/C compressor,dryer,expansion valve and pressure switch prior to that, because it locked up,replaced idler pulley ,replaced headlights because they were fogged up and cracking,

Here is the kicker, the guy went by himself to buy this car,paid $35.000 cash and didn't even bother to pop the hood, he even admitted that to me. So I think this kind of fools deserve to be screwed, I would gladly go and check out a car for someone at no charge and I offered it to him.So people like that should blame themselves first and the butchers second.



I've also seen photos of well known shop on here with not so great welds,but I will not point fingers or mention names

I don't think anyone has said not to use small shops.. hell, most of the good shops I know ARE small..

I think the point is to not just shop based on price and really reasearch before doing business with any shop (big or small).

BOS has 5 guys.. JCG has 3-4 and there aren't even that many guys at the Ring Brothers..