Originally Posted by killer69 (Post 319478)

The Speedtech subframe is also a good choice for certain applications and their nova has seen quite a bit of track time recently. It's best (and worst) feature is that it allows you to use suspension components you may have already bought before you decided to go aftermarket. This feature comes at a big cost. The speedtech subframe, unlike the DSE and AME, has the same geometry as a modded stock subframe. They restricted themselves to utilizing stock spindles, stock pickup points and control arm lengths with exception to the "built in g-mod", which costs $18 on a stock sub. There is a lot of variables in an independent suspension, and these restrictions require that sacrifices be made somewhere. The Speedtech subframe is the "best" bang for your buck, but that is because it is based on a stock subframe, which really is the best for the money. I'm not trying to brainlessly bash speedtech, because they are a good company, with good products and service, it's just that too many people falsely think they are getting all the offerings of an aftermarket sub, for much less money.

Just wanted to add a couple things to this. Even tho the Speedtech sub uses stock pick up points . the main rails and arms have been redesigned to give clearance for up to 10" wide front rims and include Delrin bushings and stainless steel X Shafts. You have the option of using the stock spindle with or with out the G mod. and the ability to tune the camber curve anywhere in between the 2 points, also with the addition of the Tall AFX spindle you get a camber curve that is as good as any. you also get coil over shocks with a revised motion ratio. the sub is much more ridgid than the stock sub ever was as well as being lighter by about 15 lbs (not much but lighter all the same)
I don't understand what you mean when you say it's just that too many people falsely think they are getting all the offerings of an aftermarket sub, for much less money.

You mention that sacrifices must be made, be assured that DSE and AME also made sacrifices in their design.

Just as a compairson the DSE 2 gen was only 0.7 seconds quicker than the Speedtech Nova on the auto X at the Optima Ultimate Street Car Invitational and that was the FIRST time our car had actually been timed arround an auto X.

Another thing to consider is what is the potential customer doing with the car and what is the budget?

Thank you for the compliment by the way.

Hope this adds to the topic.

Originally Posted by killer69 (Post 319644)

Wheel size on a 68 that can be run is 18x9 6.375 BS this is on a stock sub with tall spindles and hight clearance upper arms.
but having said that this is ABSOLUTLY PUSHING THE LIMIT, and i will not be responsible for them rubbing if you go this route. the stock steering arm will be your buggest issue. the unisteer rack has a shorter steering arm and slightly smaller outer tie rod end, for what thats worth.

Originally Posted by youthpastor (Post 319645)

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here is a Speedtech set-up- tall spindle- Unisteer with an 18x9 and 6in BS with a 275- I bolted the wheel on last night and was amazed at the turning radius- I would say the first thing that would contact is the upper A-Arm at the ball-joint with a tall spindle- If you are interested I can get some pics tonight from above showing lock to lock- Chris