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ccracin 02-22-2011 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 334054)
Dane --

That's a sad comment that "people on here don't like you". I think what you mistake is that people on here reacted to your challenging them about tracking their cars as much as YOU would like to see THEM do. I can't remember the thread -- but that clearly sticks in my mind. That you'd made some comments about others not being out there racing their brains out the way you think they should be -- and there were posts reacting to those statements. I wouldn't confuse that with liking or not liking you personally - or wanting you to become a part of this (Lat G) community. I've posted up argumentative comments --- a thread on "8 second car" comes to mind... where I took the other side of a discussion about the racing terms used to describe a cars run time... We had a lot of comments and it was 99% against me... but I never got a feeling that people didn't like ME -- just that we had a difference of opinion. My opinion has not changed - and I don't think I changed anyones either... but it was a good discussion none the less.

I think - IMHO - what makes this place "the best" is that there is actually very little "personal opinion" posts - vs - "helpful" or "informed" or "looking good". What we don't see here is somebody just flaming a guys car or wheels or whatever other choices a person makes. What I've seen is - if a guy is making personal choices - that's respected. If a guy is building something that may be a hazard - that might be "discussed" but in a purely helpful way.

Having said all that --- I've owned fast cars for 40 years --- and I own them because I like driving them fast. BUT -- big BUTT -- I choose to do it where and when it will NOT be a hazard to OTHERS -- because it's MY CHOICE to kill/injure/wreck myself but not to put others in the way of my fun.

On a board where EVERYONE has a fast, capable, car -- I think what you're seeing/reading is a reaction to an issue that brings scorn to those of us that choose to drive hot cars. It's HOW we drive them that is most important. For a guy that puts pressure on others to track their cars... which is the proper venue and outlet for 'us'... it surprises me that you'd choose to drive this way in traffic. That doesn't mean I don't read every post of yours - or have an opinion about you personally. I'd love to meet you - and check out your car - and I love watching your videos and pics of your track events.

Just my .0000000000000000000000000002 worth
:cheers:

:cheers: Greg. Couldn't have said it better myself! That's what makes this place cool!

rogue 02-22-2011 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 334054)
Dane --

That's a sad comment that "people on here don't like you". I think what you mistake is that people on here reacted to your challenging them about tracking their cars as much as YOU would like to see THEM do. I can't remember the thread -- but that clearly sticks in my mind. That you'd made some comments about others not being out there racing their brains out the way you think they should be -- and there were posts reacting to those statements. I wouldn't confuse that with liking or not liking you personally - or wanting you to become a part of this (Lat G) community. I've posted up argumentative comments --- a thread on "8 second car" comes to mind... where I took the other side of a discussion about the racing terms used to describe a cars run time... We had a lot of comments and it was 99% against me... but I never got a feeling that people didn't like ME -- just that we had a difference of opinion. My opinion has not changed - and I don't think I changed anyones either... but it was a good discussion none the less.

I think - IMHO - what makes this place "the best" is that there is actually very little "personal opinion" posts - vs - "helpful" or "informed" or "looking good". What we don't see here is somebody just flaming a guys car or wheels or whatever other choices a person makes. What I've seen is - if a guy is making personal choices - that's respected. If a guy is building something that may be a hazard - that might be "discussed" but in a purely helpful way.

Having said all that --- I've owned fast cars for 40 years --- and I own them because I like driving them fast. BUT -- big BUTT -- I choose to do it where and when it will NOT be a hazard to OTHERS -- because it's MY CHOICE to kill/injure/wreck myself but not to put others in the way of my fun.

On a board where EVERYONE has a fast, capable, car -- I think what you're seeing/reading is a reaction to an issue that brings scorn to those of us that choose to drive hot cars. It's HOW we drive them that is most important. For a guy that puts pressure on others to track their cars... which is the proper venue and outlet for 'us'... it surprises me that you'd choose to drive this way in traffic. That doesn't mean I don't read every post of yours - or have an opinion about you personally. I'd love to meet you - and check out your car - and I love watching your videos and pics of your track events.

Just my .0000000000000000000000000002 worth
:cheers:

I run my cars hard nearly every time I bring them out. Thats what they're for. Even my P71. I've had one moving violation in 10 years and I thought I showed restraint in this video. I tried to get the guy to go on the traffic free beautiful 110 northbound that is filled with amazing tunnels just for the footage. But the guy didn't get it. He was driving like a kid in an accord.

So I just paced the guy until he finally realized I was purposedly holding back.

Quick burst of throttle on the freeway, no tire slip, no close calls. No harm. Then I let the guy take off like a ricer. I didn't think it was that big of a deal but apparently it is. I found it entertaining.

You're reading too much into the "people don't like me", I've simply been told to 'clean up my act'.

Quote:

Either clean up your posts or simply don't post. It's your choice. Your holier than thou attititude with snide connotation is growing very thin.

Take this for what it is, a simple request - and not just from me, but also from many members of our community that I talk to on a regular basis.

This PM isn't a debate or a discussion.

This is a discussion forum, but apparently I'm considered some kind of troll when I'm actually trying to get people to track events.

rogue 02-22-2011 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 69MSA (Post 334025)
I was expecting worse.

Still, I'm going to play devil's advocate.

First, what does it say about a person driving the Ferrari, and the person willing to "race" the Ferrari? Actions like this generally reflect poorly on the individual filming.

Now, I have to agree with Todd and Greg. Racing a WHITE Ferrari? Really? White is a benign color on an M3 or C63 AMG, but on a modern exotic white is the new P---y magnet yellow. It implies a level of presumptuousness which few can ever hope to attain. It is like saying I "I had white sunglasses, but those weren't enough." Dignifying his presence by "racing" him and consequently feeding his ego speaks volumes about the character of the other person. It would be like hand feeding Kirstie Ally McDonald's. Any reasonable personal would have to feel a tinge of guilt for being complicit in making something that big even bigger.

I hope you feel bad Dane.

Matt


The guy had gold teeth and white spiders are exceptionally rare and expensive so I've read. I always feel bad so I can't feel you :cheers:

vanzuuk1 02-22-2011 04:00 PM

I like Danes posts and I like his attitude.His tastes in cars and dogs is awesome. If we all colored perfectly within the lines than the world would be pretty dull. And we would all have concours restos that we trailer to shows.

Anyone who has never sped, accelerated for the hell of it or done a burnout can speak up now ...(crickets chirping)...

I dont think Dane did anything wrong in the video, the guy in the ferrari was the one being foolish.


Ok where do I post the video of me doing donuts on another forum members lawn?

Vegas69 02-22-2011 06:48 PM

We all know I'm more of a drive it and go to events type of guy. We think along the same lines in regards to trailer queens. I have to ask, why didn't you sign up for RTTC?

rogue 02-22-2011 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 334228)
We all know I'm more of a drive it and go to events type of guy. We think along the same lines in regards to trailer queens. I have to ask, why didn't you sign up for RTTC?

past 7 months have been hell. I've been spending about 13-16 days per month sick and couch ridden in level 8 pain or worse. I just switched doctors and the new guy has an autoart F1 ferrari model next to his computer, and a painting of a Ferrari Testa Rossa in Monte Carlo. He said my pump is working at about 1/20th its ability and thinks the other doc was doing testing with nerve drugs on me.

Its been hell. By the time I found the thread, it was sold out anyway.:(

Flash68 02-22-2011 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rogue (Post 334230)
Its been hell. By the time I found the thread, it was sold out anyway.:(

If you're up for it, 2 tix just became available. Probably will be others I imagine as this week progresses.

http://www.pro-touring.com/showthrea...856#post774856

Vegas69 02-22-2011 09:04 PM

Damn man, that has to suck. Hope your new doctor can help you.

You should come out and run one day if you feel up to it. I wish the forecast was better but I know you don't care about a little rain. :D I'm not to enthused with my black and brushed aluminum everything.:willy:

rogue 02-22-2011 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 334274)
Damn man, that has to suck. Hope your new doctor can help you.

You should come out and run one day if you feel up to it. I wish the forecast was better but I know you don't care about a little rain. :D I'm not to enthused with my black and brushed aluminum everything.:willy:

I live hour by hour. Literally. I had an apple cause me severe pain the other day for no reason. I hate eating.

I have some CCWs for sale next week, Just have to sent that one wheel to CCW for new outer hoop. :willy:

and 3 R888's or 2 275s.

I'm bringing sexy back.

Driving on street tires is an 'interesting' experience to me.

Ron in SoCal 02-23-2011 07:27 AM

Dane - same offer as last year applies. I'll pick you up and take you home if it helps getting you out to the event, and we can leave any time you feel ready. FYI - this is event that is most near and dear to your heart; last year was a blast!


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