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Amituk 10-03-2012 12:58 AM

I second that!

The work Jason is doing for me is first class! So glad I stumbled across GMR.

I shudder to think what I could of ended up with under my car :_paranoid

JasonElvisHeard 10-05-2012 07:44 PM

Another preview photo of the GMR C6-Hybrid rear end setup!

http://thegmr.com/wp-content/uploads...ter-main-3.jpg


Jason

dontlifttoshift 10-10-2012 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay@GMR (Post 438553)
Rick,

We do have a builder in your State. We are working with him now to see if he is on board with this new C6 system. Thanks, Jay

Yep, on board.

What's this new housing? I usually get spy pics

Jay@GMR 10-10-2012 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dontlifttoshift (Post 440380)
Yep, on board.

What's this new housing? I usually get spy pics

:thumbsup: We will get pics to you!

Blake Foster 10-16-2012 08:57 AM

"First EVER fabricated housing designed just for the Pro-Touring industry... " it's about time.... :thumbsup:

Here are some questions for you.

Actually these questions come from Protouring and the OP was Baddride II
he is a HUGE GMR supporter.
This was all directed at Speedtech when we released our "floater / semi floater"

I didn't want you to get off to easy.

QUOTE BELOW.
As you and others may know I am very fond of the floater concept so wanted to add some input, so please take with a grain a salt. The quality of your flange seems to be very nice, but I have to ask…..WHY? As I am not sure what has been solved here.

*C5/6 Hubs are VERY heavy (especially the SKF)
*C5/6 Stock Hubs have been known to fail
*C5/6 Hubs are NOT serviceable
*C5/6 Hubs are EXPENSIVE to replace and WILL NEED REPLACING
*C5/6 Hubs are only 28/30 spline and small diameter shaft.
*C5/6 Hubs are of poor design (VERY narrow bearing spread AND are located in-board of WMS)
*ABS can be worked into ANY design cheaply

Serious Off-road has all but done away with this weak style hub unit because of their weaknesses AND the cost to replace them when worn. Chevy/Corvette would do away with them as well but cannot due to the current suspension design (limited distance from steering knuckle face to WMS). So SKF did the best they could and increased flange thickness slightly, spread bearings slightly, and added 3 ball bearings to outer bearing to HELP combat the WMS flange ring from separating AND “ bearing play” from side loading due to poor bearing design.

So it is my thought that if you really run your car hard enough to experience “piston knock-back” and believe you require a “floater”, or run your car at speeds that you think would require additional safety of a “floater”…..somewhat like CORVETTE guys do, you will most certainly need to run the upgraded SKF Hubs to feel any sense of relief/safety. These much needed SKF hubs will run you nearly a $1000 for the pair with ½ -20 studs, installed, and shipped to your door! Not sure what your flange kit will cost…but sure seems like once you get the components needed to make this a marginally worthy performance floater, AND the initial cost of your flange kit….you could have a floater kit that is MUCH stronger AND can be serviced for pennies on the dollar compared to this C5/6 floater. So this idea would appear to the untamed eye to be slightly more affordable initially…….UNTIL its first servicing when the new hub units brake the bank!

I am not saying it will not work for some, but most requiring a floater are not mild cars, i just think that by the time you invest the money to make your kit strong (SKF) and the inevitable servicing cost, money would be better spent in other floater kits that are currently available. Just my $.02 from a consumer’s point of view and is not meant to offend you or others.

That's all Carry on.

Jay@GMR 10-16-2012 09:56 AM

Hey Blake,

Don’t let this thread/release get the best of you. Stay focussed.

Since you have given me this opportunity, I would like to retract my statements that the Hubs are very heavy (since this is all relative), and that ABS can be worked into ANY design cheaply.

If you pay attention to what I was saying, I imply that by the time you incorporate the SKF/ZR1 Hub Units (to get the strength you need to make the setup work/last) that you would be very close to a GMR Full Floater in cost, AND in my opinion would be a much stronger setup and is.

So I still feel this way and have even more experience to speak from since I am well studied in both set-ups and costs.

I think both our GMR kits (Full Floater & C6 Hybrid) will have their place in our marketplace and is the reason GMR is working on this newest C6 “Hybrid” setup. We would hate to get left behind or choose not to fill a gap in the market place as you know firsthand.

I feel the greatest benefits to be reaped from the GMR C6 "Hybrid" setup is the built in electronics and the ability to replace the hub unit at any parts store/GM/etc. outside of this, my personal preference is still the GMR Full Floater.

Thanks, Jay

JasonElvisHeard 10-16-2012 06:51 PM

Thanks for the free thread bump blake! :thumbsup:

Its humbling to see larger companies giving props to us "small" guys, its hard enough being the new kid on the block but with support from guys like yourself we sure are well on our way to being one of the "guys" :unibrow:

oh and Blake, if you use quotations around what was originally said your post wont sound as confusing. Its hard to tell where your comments end and your quoted comments begin.

I was thinking something like this:

""First EVER fabricated housing designed just for the Pro-Touring industry... " it's about time....

Here are some questions for you.

Actually these questions come from Protouring and the OP was Baddride II
he is a HUGE GMR supporter.
This was all directed at Speedtech when we released our "floater / semi floater"

I didn't want you to get off to easy. " (Blake Foster)


"As you and others may know I am very fond of the floater concept so wanted to add some input, so please take with a grain a salt. The quality of your flange seems to be very nice, but I have to ask…..WHY? As I am not sure what has been solved here.

*C5/6 Hubs are VERY heavy (especially the SKF)
*C5/6 Stock Hubs have been known to fail
*C5/6 Hubs are NOT serviceable
*C5/6 Hubs are EXPENSIVE to replace and WILL NEED REPLACING
*C5/6 Hubs are only 28/30 spline and small diameter shaft.
*C5/6 Hubs are of poor design (VERY narrow bearing spread AND are located in-board of WMS)
*ABS can be worked into ANY design cheaply

Serious Off-road has all but done away with this weak style hub unit because of their weaknesses AND the cost to replace them when worn. Chevy/Corvette would do away with them as well but cannot due to the current suspension design (limited distance from steering knuckle face to WMS). So SKF did the best they could and increased flange thickness slightly, spread bearings slightly, and added 3 ball bearings to outer bearing to HELP combat the WMS flange ring from separating AND “ bearing play” from side loading due to poor bearing design.

So it is my thought that if you really run your car hard enough to experience “piston knock-back” and believe you require a “floater”, or run your car at speeds that you think would require additional safety of a “floater”…..somewhat like CORVETTE guys do, you will most certainly need to run the upgraded SKF Hubs to feel any sense of relief/safety. These much needed SKF hubs will run you nearly a $1000 for the pair with ½ -20 studs, installed, and shipped to your door! Not sure what your flange kit will cost…but sure seems like once you get the components needed to make this a marginally worthy performance floater, AND the initial cost of your flange kit….you could have a floater kit that is MUCH stronger AND can be serviced for pennies on the dollar compared to this C5/6 floater. So this idea would appear to the untamed eye to be slightly more affordable initially…….UNTIL its first servicing when the new hub units brake the bank!

I am not saying it will not work for some, but most requiring a floater are not mild cars, i just think that by the time you invest the money to make your kit strong (SKF) and the inevitable servicing cost, money would be better spent in other floater kits that are currently available. Just my $.02 from a consumer’s point of view and is not meant to offend you or others." (Jay)


"That's all Carry on." (Blake Foster)


Jason

JasonElvisHeard 10-16-2012 06:57 PM

see blake...

https://lateral-g.net/forums/show...390#post441390

I got your back! :cheers:

Jason

JasonElvisHeard 02-05-2013 08:39 PM

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Jason

JasonElvisHeard 02-05-2013 08:50 PM

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jason


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