I'll have to see after I lock down some front seats - looking at them more and more I feel that they may be to modern which would then take me back to my second choice which are the recaro specialist seats. I really don't want something bulky.

In the mean time while all this welding work was being done I picked up a square set of Forgelines 18x10's that I'm going to re- lip once the sub frame lands.

http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/x...psd2lhwzpg.jpg

Fricken awesome work

So with the rear tubs done and the wheels purchased we measure the wheels against the tubs and that gave us a 55.5 axle length when measuring from one WMS to the other. I called DSE and they said that there should be at minimum 1 inch between the rim and tub so we add 2 inches to the axle length for either side making it 57.5 - this gives us a 4 inch lip in the back when widening the wheels to 12 inches (currently 10 inches with a 2 inch lip).

We also measured the distance from the fender lip to the rim and 1 side gave us 3.5 inches and the other gave us 4.0 inches due to one of the lips being rolled. Once the trunk is done we'll move to stage three of the car which is tunnel modification (if needed) once the sub frame arrives, widening/fixing/evening the rear fenders, and any type or roll bar.

So at the minimum we had 3.5 inches of clearance - 1 for inner tub the wheel clearance - 2 for going to a 12 inch wheel leaving a half inch of clearance from the outer edge of the wheel to the factory fender lip. We'll be reviewing later if we want to go wider and if there are any obstacles we may hit.

With the axle size and math figured out I got in contact with Ken Sapper at Speedway Engineering and we went thru the process of building a custom floater 9 inch rear end with the DSE brackets welded on. Starting with choosing the style of the center section so it keeps the fluid where it needs to be, custom bracing and baffling from the center section to the axle tubes, 31 spline axles, and mod light hubs in 5x4.75 - I already have a braced iron center section and Eaton True Trac. This thing is built tough and light...


The housing:
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The hubs:
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Yea what he said!!!

impressed that is,

Thanks!!!

Guys I'm coming across a dilemma.. in an effort try and get this car done as quickly as possible i'm buying parts and for each phase of the project instead of consecutive order.

Next up is brakes.. now I wanted to get the car on the ground and get a total weight and corner weight so I could choose the appropriate brakes but seeing that everything is coming together at once I could really use some advice on what brakes work best for these cars and there characteristics.

Some info on the car:
Suspension is full detroit speed with quadralink, subframe, single adjustable shocks and front and rear sway bars sub frame connectors + plus reinforced body stiffening from all the weld work.

Wheels are Forgeline GA3R 18x10 front 18x12 rear - Going for 335 (maybe 345) rear tire and 305 or 315 front. (open to input)

Motor is currently 500+ but there's still room to grow. The block is iron so that's an extra hundred up front. (6.0 LQ9 block, LS3 heads, arp studs, hot cam)

With that suspension, that grip and that power how much braking is needed and from your experience what's the average weight of a LS 1st gen Camaro.

Just a quick update since it's been a bit quiet...

My Detroit Speed subframe should be shipping today and be here around next week!!!!! It was a hard decision but I think the right one... I had to break it up into payments with Mike at Musclerodz and really thank him for working on this with me.

Also yesterday I ran over to JCG and picked up a 22 gallon Fuel Safe fuel cell that he had for sale. It originally came with the Blu Ballz camaro but was never used or had gas in it.

When I showed up he was working on a deep purple Challenger with a Mast motor in it. He was incredibly nice and took me and my GF plus the welder for a quick tour. We got to check out Blu Ballz and I was just in awe trying my best not to act like a fan boy.

There are some really talented people working on these cars and you can just appreciate the work they put into them.

Pictures to come...

man you hit the parts mother load....Im sending you a PM but your inbox is full.

Lol I guess ya! Box cleared send away lol

Subframe showed up and it looks awesome! No issues with shipping and definitely a profession job. The subframe will sit in the crate until we can get the rear fenders finalized and move to the front... stay tuned.

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You will be very satisfied with that subframe,they are nice:thumbsup: