Yody ...were you working on mike`s gn ?

Oh and just to be one of the cool people since im sooo into function over form im putting together plans for a tt setup but only 6-650rwhp on pump gas since with my 285s out back that will be sooo much more useable :lol:

sorry, I'm going to apologize in advance for whoever told you, that you were one of the cool people. :lol:

Well its good to see the labotomy wasnt a complete success :thumbsup:

I actually edited that post, and added a bit about the mule v the new camaro X. I think that is a good comparison of what I am talking about.

You have the Mule with the TT 1000HP small block, and then you have the camaro X with the NA 500hp(underated) LS7. Which do you think would be easier, faster, and more fun to drive? Obviously that is a subjective question and is going to vary from person to person, but I would take the X way before the mule. The LS7 will put out 600hp, get 20mpg, and have a smooth idle, and will also be a rippin motor with a smoother linear power delivery. But hey differnet strokes for different folks I guess. But if you look at the real purpose of any of this stuff that we put on the cars, the fundemental reason for all of this $$$ is performance. I think it would be hard to argue that a skilled driver could do more with the camaro X than the Mule due to the Mules over-abundance of power, even with it detuned. There must be a reason why Mark didn't build another TT machine.

I'm not saying that one thing is better than another even though it might sound like it. And I understand you can Detune a TT motor to make it more docile, just kinda exploring what having 1000hp is about. Thanks for not taking it as an argument and seeing it for more as a discussion

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Well,everbody has a differnet idea of drivable.i run a 710 cube 1050 hp motor in my pro street car,and it's not bad to drive with a 4l80e it does ok on mpg,did 16 mpg on a road trip.

It's pretty cool when a guy in a import pulls up and you can nail the throttle at 80 mph and do a burnout :D

But mainly these 1000 hp rides are bragging rights.

No, they are street registered tire durability testers. I'm due for another check from Michelin for more "research" any day now. :P

I wish I could get on M/T's r&d team. :cool:

Actually the Mule was great on the track. We dialed the boost down so there would be no suprises but it probably would have been fine with more boost. I have had a Procharged big block that made 828rwhp on pump gas that would be a absolute bitch to drive on Power Tour. You would have to constatnly pay attention to what your right foot was doing. The Mule with the turbos drives like a 8 1/2 -1 comp smallblock unless you put your foot in it. I also have driven the effortless torque of the Red Witch, 532" 9-1 comp. All 3 are different but the Mule and Red Witch are both very easy to drive. Pump gas boost on the Mule is probably 700 hp ? and very easy to drive. A by-product of making 700 hp is the ability to turn the boost up to 1000 hp if desired. Most other 700 hp cars are alot less drivable. Maybe someday I can talk Mark into running laps with Camaro X and then turning the boost up on the Mule and running some laps and see what the differences are.