th hotrods to hell kit http://www.hotrodstohell.net/truckar...y_truckarm.htm appears to have the disadvantage of not leaving room for subframe connectors... not without re-egineering atleast

i thought it was a Chevy by the way???

So did I, until I picked it up. Turns out the casting is a caddy big block. I thought they were all the same, but apparently not! :willy: :willy:

The arms will clear SFCs on a 2nd gen, the floorpan and framerails are much different on the 2nd gen. The arms come closer to hitting to the rear frame rails than the connectors. I don't have any pics that show how everything fits together, but we used the Comp Engineering connectors and everything clears.

HTH doesn't have any shots of their kit installed on a 2nd gen (I've never been able to find pictures of truck arms on another 2nd gen..). There is pretty much no room in front of the rear end housing for a traditional coil setup, so I'd like to know how exactly they're doing it, if they have done one before.

Ok I just want to say I agree with using a LS2 Engine but in case you can't find the deal your looking for here is some food for thought. Cadillac has some good performance parts too and with aluminum heads and intake they weigh only as much as a small chevy.:D


http://cad500parts.com/head/head.htm

I think that this is going to be great, but FIY the E36 M3 puts 220hp to the wheels on a Mustang dyno, and the E46 puts 275 RWHP, and the E46 weighs 200 ish lbs more, I usually see both of them running pretty much neck and neck with similar drivers in each car, so your competition is 220RWHP and 3100 lbs, basically really similar to a base c5 vette, with 50/50 weight distribution, the LS engine will help you alot more than you think in the weight department, also remember that the M3 has aluminum control arms and a independant rear so you have your work cut out for you. But I think that you can do it.

Man, I sound like a pretentious pr*ck according to that story, don't I? Of course his version sounds more dramatic. Yes, I'm that buddy with the E36 M3. I got tired of waiting to start the restification of My '69 Camaro, and I paid $11k for mine, not $12k. And I've been helping him plan the mods!

Thanks for calling me an above average driver :-D

I'd just like to point out a couple funny points: That pile of parts he traded for a T56? It was a 1995 TA he bought with a new long block for $1500. It just needed to be reassembled. And it counts on the tally. If anyone can do something on an impossibly small budget, it's him.

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...1010645_sm.jpg

The free engine? 472 Caddy with bad bearings. Not concerned about it :-p.

So let me introduce myself, I'm 28, and I'm a Mechanical Engineer for the DoD as well. I work with DDY RCKT, and I've had my 1969 Camaro since 1984. (Gift from my grandfather) And it hasn't run since then either. Taking it off the trailer Wednesday, the front driver wheel wouldn't turn. But, I have a long ways to go.

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...1010682_sm.jpg

My first real modification was a 1986 Monte Carlo SS with a B-spindle conversion 5 years ago. Del-a-lum bushings, Bilstein shocks, and it rode pretty well. It needed bodywork like nobody's business, but check out the stance:
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...tQuarter_1.jpg

I think this is a neat concept for a build, but it's not like I'll be surprised if he's successful.

Sup Rickfert! You're an engineer, you're automatically a pretentious bastige, and you know it!

You are an above average driver, but I've got more track time than you. Nyah Nyah! :lol:

I miss the Monte... :( But I can't wait to tear into that 69!

$11K! Curses! There goes my budget...

Enough with the small talk.. show us some pics :D LOL

hows the project going?? what did you end up with suspension wise?? truckarm ? hotchkiss? air? SC&C? alot of names has been tossed arround here

Guys! Where have I been on this! I'm in Va Beach and totally missed this thread. I have a WS6 Trans AM that I auto-x (right at your back door at RIR) I'm building a 67 RS that hopefully will outrun the T/A. I consistantly beat porshes, BMW and Mercades Benzs so it can be done! My T/A is stock with the LS1 and a 6Sp, and no chassis mods. Check out this site for tons of F-Body Road Racing info http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/ Send me a PM and I'll be glad to help you with the planning for your build and I do work for Beer! The suggestion about Nascar or Circle track suspenstion parts is right on time... I'd start there, yeah, and loose the boat anchor engine, you won't like the push at 100+ MPH on a real road course. I'm running my T/A at VIR in Danville in March.

Your opponent is helping you plan your set-up? I would be suspicious if he starts suggesting things like a solid-axle front suspension or a 2bbl carb for the BB Caddy motor!

Seriously, though, it sounds like good friendly competition. I think you are definately headed in the right direction with the build. The T-56 is longer and heavier than the stock tranny (I assume?), so it will give you a little better weight distribution when coupled with aluminum heads. Have you thought about other ways to reduce front end weight such as manual steering, plastic radiator, etc.? You could also flare the fenders to fit wider tires after you lower the stance.

After the final race, you guys should trade cars and run them again. (double or nothing?)

Subscribed :lateral: !!!

You could always cut up the firewall and set the engine farther back to help out the weight balance. That 472 BB Cadillac is actually pretty light. If you throw an aluminum intake in it, it is only 50 lbs heavier than an all iron sbc, or so I've read.

Why don't you make your own front subframe using a c4 corvette K member & suspension components? I just picked up a whole c4 frame for 850 bucks.

Yes all us engineers are pretentious, or that's what the shop guys at work like to think of us as.

Having moved that 472 around a bit, I'm suspicious of anyone who says it's light. :_paranoid

I think LS1/LS2/LS6 is the way to go ! Lightweight, potent in stock form, response to power adder's extremely well, besides you can pick one up off of LS1tech for anywhere from $1200 to $3000 including the ECU as a drop in !