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tones2SS 10-07-2009 03:44 PM

Nice work guys!!!:thumbsup:

syborg tt 10-14-2009 08:09 PM

great work - pictures are awesome.

rat_rod_russell 10-15-2009 03:39 PM

thanks

PICS!!!!!

yes its yellow

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/pro...ate/04/s-1.jpg http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/pro...ate/04/s-2.jpg http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/pro...ate/04/s-3.jpg

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/pro...ate/04/s-4.jpg http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/pro...ate/04/s-5.jpg http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/pro...ate/04/s-6.jpg

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/pro...ate/04/s-7.jpg

fleet 10-15-2009 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rat_rod_russell (Post 241238)

Why did you do this to us?! :wow:


:lol:

rat_rod_russell 10-15-2009 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WaterCooledNelds (Post 241242)
Why did you do this to us?! :wow:


:lol:

I sell frames and chassis, whats the first thing I want you to notice. And besides, it looks real good. :unibrow:

-Russell

ironworks 10-15-2009 06:53 PM

WOW LOOKS REALLY COOL. But are you really going to race that chassis in just over 3 weeks from today? Wow if you make it I will buy you a beer of Root beer if you not 21.

Also take lots and lots of pics of the rolling chassis, you will be glad you did. I did studio shots or mine and it was worth it.

Good luck, and good luck without sleep.

Rodger

Steve1968LS2 10-15-2009 07:00 PM

That frame is killer but man, you have a TON of work to do in the next two weeks!!! :wow:

You driving the truck in the challenge? Man, I can't wait to see this thing done! :thumbsup:

tones2SS 10-16-2009 09:00 AM

WOW!!
That sure will stand out! Great job guys.:thumbsup: :cheers:

nvr2fst 10-18-2009 06:52 AM

Nice project, always love anything incorporated with the corvette suspension.
Looks like you know your way around solid works pretty good. Good luck on your deadline.
Dave

rat_rod_russell 10-20-2009 06:37 PM

Lets just say I love pressure, and monster. :thumbsup:

Huge power outage took out a bunch of the lights in the shop and put us to a stand still for a few hours, that was fun.

Cross that with a problem on our transmission (thanks McLeod, for the headache) that's why the cabs not on, the transmission needs a few parts mocked up with the body off and right now, the transmission is still in pieces on the bench. I think Mark at Forte Parts has a shifter mover that will work for our project. Will keep posted here.

A few quickly taken photos, no, we're not normally this messy and I'll get Brianne to take some good ones before we drop the cab on.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/pro...ate/05/s-1.jpg http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/pro...ate/05/s-3.jpg http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/pro...ate/05/s-4.jpg

The Vintage Air Pulley system. This thing is awesome. It came with a water pump and the lower balancer.
http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/pro...ate/05/s-6.jpg

Exhaust all warped up to keep heat in the exhaust

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/pro...ate/05/s-2.jpg

Cab and other parts all painted up waiting on the chassis.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/pro...ate/05/s-7.jpg http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/pro...ate/05/s-8.jpg


New production diff adapter, I almost have a price on these for you guys.
http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/pro...ate/05/s-5.jpg

I need to get back over here. Brianne, our driver, works for us part time doing oddball jobs, photography and abusing my cars so I can watch them break and fix the weak points. You might be able to tell which photos she took and the ones I took considering she's has a degree in photography.

-Russell

GMracer 10-20-2009 06:51 PM

I LOVE the frame, the design behind it is phenomenal

Steve1968LS2 10-20-2009 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rat_rod_russell (Post 242301)
Brianne, our driver, works for us part time doing oddball jobs, photography and abusing my cars so I can watch them break and fix the weak points.

-Russell

Cool deal, so she'll be doing the driving on the road course?

Can't wait to see the truck all done!

rat_rod_russell 10-20-2009 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2 (Post 242311)
Cool deal, so she'll be doing the driving on the road course?

Can't wait to see the truck all done!

Ya, I had seen her at an autocross and she asked me about doing photos and the car (32 ford roadster at the time). She comes by one weekend just beaming. I ask whats up and see tells me she was out doing some 24 second runs. There was no autocross that weekend, of that I was sure because I'd have been there so I assume she went to the drag strip. I see an old beater Subaru out side and ask "on what, a Uni cycle?" she said "no, a NOS'd out, carbon fiber, Busa and I was at the Texas Mile"

Guys 24 means 200+ miles an hour. :hail: :hail: That's right this chick did 200 on a bike in under a mile from a standing start, she's nuts. Probably why she's fast. :rofl:

After that I let her drive the 57 then she started taking photos for us and driving so I could work on the cars and chassis in the time frame we had available to us. She'll be working our shop booth at SEMA.

-Russell

Steve1968LS2 10-20-2009 08:00 PM

Is she hot? :lol:

Just kidding.. Does she have a brother named Kevin that use to autocross?

That fast on a bike is nuts..

Kendall Burleson 10-20-2009 08:07 PM

I'm 6'5 mius 4.5" and I have to look up to her She has race very thing from BMX to bike at pike peak. she is good looking girl that has no problem put a fender on you if you are are in her way.:lol: :lol:

Steve1968LS2 10-20-2009 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kendall Burleson (Post 242325)
I'm 6'5 mius 4.5" and I have to look up to her She has race very thing from BMX to bike at pike peak. she is good looking girl that has no problem put a fender on you if you are are in her way.:lol: :lol:

Cool deal.. although I don't know if she really qualifies as a "builder".. ;)

http://www.statesman.com/life/conten...0913Racer.html

Solo National champion huh?

rat_rod_russell 10-20-2009 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2 (Post 242335)
Cool deal.. although I don't know if she really qualifies as a "builder".. ;)

http://www.statesman.com/life/conten...0913Racer.html

Solo National champion huh?

She TIG welds for us, (and has several parts for the truck) that counts as a odd ball work in a fab shop. And besides she's only been racing for 3-4 years.

And besides who's setting your car up Steve, :lol: I could have asked Lance Adams or Bill Dollahite to drive, that would've been funny.

-Russell

Kendall Burleson 10-20-2009 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2 (Post 242335)
Cool deal.. although I don't know if she really qualifies as a "builder".. ;)

http://www.statesman.com/life/conten...0913Racer.html

Solo National champion huh?

If she work for the company that Qualifies her for the driving job because it is a shop build.That why she will be working the booth at SEMA

Steve1968LS2 10-20-2009 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rat_rod_russell (Post 242337)
She TIG welds for us, (and has several parts for the truck) that counts as a odd ball work in a fab shop. And besides she's only been racing for 3-4 years.

And besides who's setting your car up Steve, :lol: I could have asked Lance Adams or Bill Dollahite to drive, that would've been funny.

-Russell

Hey, I don't have a problem with it.. chill out.. It's all part of the fun.. really :) -- I just thought her name sounded familar after you mentioned it and the Texas mile.. not a lot of ladies in this sport.

My suspension builder is setting up my car.. why? I'm going up there in a couple of days to put the darn thing back together.. I need to stop doing the "SEMA thrash".. this is the third year and it get's tiring.

If I could repaint Penny I would steal the paint job from your truck.. ever since I was a kid I've love the whole flying tigers deal.

Steve1968LS2 10-20-2009 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kendall Burleson (Post 242338)
If she work for the company that Qualifies her for the driving job because it is a shop build.That why she will be working the booth at SEMA

Hey, I'm not the "optima police".. jeesh.. you can hire Dale Jr if you want.. none of my business.

Hug? :cheers:

Kendall Burleson 10-20-2009 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2 (Post 242340)
Hey, I'm not the "optima police".. jeesh.. you can hire Dale Jr if you want.. none of my business.

Hug? :cheers:

Steve you are the king and I'm trying to buy a Penny shirt. I love to have a little fun with my Hero went I grow up I want to be as cool as you are.Oh the car is cool too.:bow: :bow: :bow:

Thomo5150 10-20-2009 09:03 PM

Hi Russell, luv the truck. Can I ask with the the C6 suspension what did you set your castor angles for the hubs both front and rear?

Cheers Tim

Steve1968LS2 10-20-2009 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kendall Burleson (Post 242344)
Steve you are the king and I'm trying to buy a Penny shirt. I love to have a little fun with my Hero went I grow up I want to be as cool as you are.Oh the car is cool too.:bow: :bow: :bow:

Sarcasm? Really?

I didn't mean to strike a nerve.. hmm, I guess this is where you find people's true character. Thanks for sharing! :)

Kendall Burleson 10-20-2009 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2 (Post 242354)
Sarcasm? Really?

I didn't mean to strike a nerve.. hmm, I guess this is where you find people's true character. Thanks for sharing! :)

The car people from TEXAS still love you Steve! I'll paid for the beer at SEMA do you have to be 21 to buy BEER in vegas?:yes: :yes: :yes:

Steve1968LS2 10-20-2009 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kendall Burleson (Post 242363)
The car people from TEXAS still love you Steve! I'll paid for the beer at SEMA do you have to be 21 to buy BEER in vegas?:yes: :yes: :yes:

I think at 18 your good for both Strippers AND Beer.. :cheers:

So the beer sounds like a fine idea. :)


But seriously.. that post of yours.. that stuff just get's old. Maybe if you guys win than people can hate one you for no other reason than you won and they are pissed about it.

That's a odd reward for working your ass off and trying to do something for the hobby, huh?

rat_rod_russell 10-20-2009 09:49 PM

Will you both shut up.

Sorry Steve, I was being sarcastic and we all know how hard that is to convey here on the internet. Kendall, go to sleep I need to see you here in the morning. We arn't running yet so unless we plan to push this thing faster than the penny we're screwed.

Thanks Steve, Ben did a hell of a job taking my buddy's knapkin drawing and making in uber cool. We're going to do it all as a sticker so I can play with the design a little in the future if I feel like it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomo5150 (Post 242351)
Hi Russell, luv the truck. Can I ask with the the C6 suspension what did you set your castor angles for the hubs both front and rear?

Cheers Tim

Tim

I keep the 7 degrees caster on the front and the the 8.5 degrees of king pin angle using the .25 cast in camber. I'll probably run no more than 1.5 degrees of negative camber on the front when its all said and done. Now I just need to make sure my models will work in real life. :lol:

-Russell

Steve1968LS2 10-20-2009 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rat_rod_russell (Post 242376)
Will you both shut up.

Sorry Steve, I was being sarcastic and we all know how hard that is to convey here on the internet. Kendall, go to sleep I need to see you here in the morning. We arn't running yet so unless we plan to push this thing faster than the penny we're screwed.

Thanks Steve, Ben did a hell of a job taking my buddy's knapkin drawing and making in uber cool. We're going to do it all as a sticker so I can play with the design a little in the future if I feel like it.

-Russell

Damn.. I need people to draw stuff like that for me on a napkin.. absolutly my favorite paint scheme ever.. who doesn't love a giant painted mouth with f'ing sharp teeth?!?!? lol

Hell, anyone can win.. I didn't plan on winning last year either.. just run hard and hope the racing gods are with you.

Sleep? what the hell are you talking about.. you have a truck to finish!

Kendall Burleson 10-20-2009 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2 (Post 242368)
I think at 18 your good for both Strippers AND Beer.. :cheers:

So the beer sounds like a fine idea. :)


But seriously.. that post of yours.. that stuff just get's old. Maybe if you guys win than people can hate one you for no other reason than you won and they are pissed about it.

That's a odd reward for working your ass off and trying to do something for the hobby, huh?

You are so Right on that. I have been helping on the truck since AUG welding Fab work what every it take to get it done. at 120 mile a day round trip to help get the Truck done.We are work our ass off on this truck it was done because that kid is thinking outside of the box and I think with the concept and design it was somthing I had to be part of. Went he show me the concept of the frame I told him let do it. The race came up later as I wanted to do Pike Peak and the Texas Mile but Russell love the road racing and autocross.The guys at HRJ throw every thing they had at it(money ect and a lot of red bull I should have bought stock in that stuff becaues they are walking around the shop with Red Bull IVs:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thomo5150 10-20-2009 10:08 PM

Thanks Russell I was going to set my front castor at 6.5. Not sure how much difference there is between the Corvette C5 and C6 settings. Is your rack location close to factory spec's to stop any bump steer.

Cheers Tim

rat_rod_russell 10-20-2009 10:14 PM

Thanks Kendall and Steve for the kind words.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomo5150 (Post 242382)
Thanks Russell I was going to set my front castor at 6.5. Not sure how much difference there is between the Corvette C5 and C6 settings. Is your rack location close to factory spec's to stop any bump steer.

Cheers Tim

C5 and C6 are the same geometrically. I built a custom steering arm that allowed me to lower the rack, use the narrower inside pivots of the C4 corvette rack and pinion and gives me a bump steer adjustment and I'm only seeing .05 degrees of ackerman misalignment all the way though 30 degrees of steering pivot.

-R^3

Steve1968LS2 10-20-2009 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomo5150 (Post 242382)
Thanks Russell I was going to set my front castor at 6.5. Not sure how much difference there is between the Corvette C5 and C6 settings. Is your rack location close to factory spec's to stop any bump steer.

Cheers Tim

On my C6 setup I run about 6.5 degrees of caster, but 7 is a good number too.. it's also going to vary depending on a host of factors. The best way is to try a number, test the car and then adjust until you find the best setting.

I also have 1.5 degrees of negative camber.. but I have sperical bearings so the zero deflection means I always have 1.5 degrees.

With rubber some guys dial in more neg camber to compensate for the deflection.

In regards to bump steer, a quick way to check is to make sure your tie rods are dead parralel to your lower control arms.

Thomo5150 10-20-2009 10:26 PM

Cheers Steve excellent advice, Chassis is now on the Chassis table, time to sit back and wait of my ZO6 C5 rolling chassis.:( . Coming from Cleveland pick a part. Gus and the guys there offer a good old fashion service.

Cheers Tim

Kendall Burleson 10-20-2009 11:06 PM

I try to reply but you box was full.

cwylie 10-21-2009 05:57 AM

I was on my way to the coast last week from Austin and tried to find the shop becuase I wanted to see this truck in person but I had no such luck..

rat_rod_russell 10-21-2009 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwylie (Post 242442)
I was on my way to the coast last week from Austin and tried to find the shop becuase I wanted to see this truck in person but I had no such luck..

that's because the shop was hiding behind the weeds and you couldn't see the rest of the cars in the drive. LOL. were in Luling on 183 next to the Propane place. Just look for there truck we're next door and share a parking lot.

-Russell

Steve1968LS2 10-21-2009 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kendall Burleson (Post 242415)
I try to reply but you box was full.

Fixed it.. I empty it and then it fills back up again.. unlike my bank account..

rat_rod_russell 10-22-2009 07:38 PM

Sorry guys if I don't pay too much attention to question now I'm a little preoccupied.

-Russell

Update

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/pro...ate/06/s-1.jpg http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/pro...ate/06/s-2.jpg http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/pro...ate/06/s-3.jpg

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/pro...ate/06/s-4.jpg http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/pro...ate/06/s-5.jpg http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/pro...ate/06/s-6.jpg

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/pro...ate/06/s-7.jpg http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/pro...ate/06/s-8.jpg http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/pro...ate/06/s-9.jpg

Steve1968LS2 10-22-2009 08:12 PM

Wow.. good progress.. but will it be ready to run and race in a week? yikes!

I thought we were "under the gun"...

Good luck there...

fleet 10-22-2009 08:44 PM

A very colorful life you seem to be leading Russell.:unibrow:

Congrats on all the progress. :thumbsup:

Jr 10-22-2009 09:32 PM

I like those mufflers :thumbsup:

Can't wait to see it run at the optima event.


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