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66LS7 12-20-2009 08:10 AM

This project keeps getting better eveytime I look at it!:cheers:



Randy(D&Z Customs LLC.)
[email protected]
1-262-347-9741

syborg tt 12-20-2009 05:37 PM

subscribed - Awesome project.

zbugger 12-20-2009 06:41 PM

This thing looks like it's coming together real nice. Let me know when and where you'll be racing and I'll be out to check it out in person. I can't wait to see it done.

WSSix 12-20-2009 07:14 PM

So that's how you get these cars to sit so low and still have a functioning suspension. You just move the upper shock mount. Very nice.

I still dream about getting my TA like four inches off the ground and functional. Still can't figure out the rear though.

73CPCAMARO 12-28-2009 04:59 PM

Here are photos showing the cross bars installed. The front end is just about done. Small details are left on the front, but for the most part, the front end structure is done.



The brace over the engine is removable.


http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0386.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0390.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0387.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0787.jpg

66LS7 12-28-2009 05:03 PM

This thing keeps getting better everytime we get new pics!:thumbsup:



Randy(D&Z Customs LLC.)
[email protected]
1-262-347-9741

"Swoosh" 12-29-2009 02:45 AM

very nice :thumbsup:

tones2SS 12-29-2009 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CruizinKev (Post 257147)
very nice :thumbsup:

You said it!!:thumbsup:

70rs 12-29-2009 11:09 AM

Ditto! Very nice. I am having a lot of fun watching this one!:cheers:

73CPCAMARO 12-29-2009 11:40 AM

Thanks for the kind words. Here a few more shots of the front end getting completed.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0383.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...IMG_0384-1.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0796.jpg

ScotI 12-29-2009 02:30 PM

What are the plans for drivetrain maint? Seems like those bars are going to be a pain in someones arse....

73CPCAMARO 12-29-2009 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScotI (Post 257244)
What are the plans for drivetrain maint? Seems like those bars are going to be a pain in someones arse....

The center bar is removable. With that removed and the fact that the inner fenders will not be installed, access will be no problem.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0796.jpg

buickfunnycar.com 12-29-2009 04:41 PM

Very impressive Brian:hail: ,can't wait to see this one completed,hope to see you run @ Marina which is 1.5 miles from my home.

ScotI 12-29-2009 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 73CPCAMARO (Post 257251)
The center bar is removable. With that removed and the fact that the inner fenders will not be installed, access will be no problem.

I wondered but wasn't sure.... It looked like it was a removeable piece but the more I looked @ the ends I thought they might be welded. Slick build!

73CPCAMARO 12-29-2009 10:26 PM

Here is a better photo to show the removable bar. If you look where it attaches to the forward bars down the small pipe, you can see the top of the bolt that holds it on.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...IMG_0387-1.jpg

rvorous 12-30-2009 11:02 AM

Do you have any update/photos w/ the front fenders installed? I'm dying to see how those monster meats fit in the fender well.

73CPCAMARO 12-30-2009 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rvorous (Post 257438)
Do you have any update/photos w/ the front fenders installed? I'm dying to see how those monster meats fit in the fender well.

I wish! Not there yet. Maybe in about a month or so. I have the panels but we will be doing the flares and body work once all the structure and suspension is completed. Mike Maier at Maier Racing is working on the final front and rear suspension and aluminum paneling now. Lots of small details. I will post photos all the way through the build process.

796spdbu 01-01-2010 12:43 PM

AWSOME!! thats about all I can say..Im really digging the fact that you want to make it some what streetable!

73CPCAMARO 01-01-2010 01:36 PM

Growing up in the 70's and watching my Dad autocross a 74 Camaro and then this 72 Z28, I always wanted one of my own. Here is a photo of the car I grew up with but never got to drive as my Dad sold it and purchased the 65 Corvette we currently race. This photo was from about 1978 - 1980. Street car during the week and race car on the weekends. Notice the trailer in the back that he would haul the race tires in to get to the event. Those are 15" x 10" wheels with Goodyear slicks. A little over 13" of rubber on each corner.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...ds72Camaro.jpg

My car will not be this color combo, but it will have the same rally stripes combined to one stripe on over the roof as tribute to this car. Plus I think it looks cool.

70rs 01-01-2010 02:53 PM

^^^Very cool! I have a 70 RS and love the look of your dads old car. Great work on yours so far, thanks for posting so much detail. Keep it coming!!:thumbsup:

66LS7 01-02-2010 08:12 AM

Cool vintage pic of your dads old auto-x Camaro, keep the pics of yours coming.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:




Randy(D&Z Customs LLC.)
[email protected]
1-262-347-9741

thedude327 01-02-2010 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 73CPCAMARO (Post 257907)
Those are 15" x 10" wheels with Goodyear slicks. A little over 13" of rubber on each corner.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...ds72Camaro.jpg

My car will not be this color combo, but it will have the same rally stripes combined to one stripe on over the roof as tribute to this car. Plus I think it looks cool.

Nice pic of your Dad's old ride. Boy does that thing have some rubber under it!! It's great that your going with a similar paint scheme too. Have you picked out what colors your going with?

Paul
:thumbsup:

73CPCAMARO 01-02-2010 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedude327 (Post 258177)
Nice pic of your Dad's old ride. Boy does that thing have some rubber under it!! It's great that your going with a similar paint scheme too. Have you picked out what colors your going with?

Paul
:thumbsup:

This is what I am leaning towards now. Hugger orange that has been lighted up a little with a solid black stripe with an outline stripe. Similar to the Dale Earnhart Jr Camaro DSE built, but the the stripe on the roof. My Dad's camaro had the single stripe over 35 years ago and I always liked it. His friend that he raced against had a 70 1/2 that was orange and black stripes, and I always liked that car also.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...blackroof1.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...ORANGEROOF.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...ds72Camaro.jpg

73CPCAMARO 01-07-2010 05:57 PM

The Edelbrock headers are nice pieces, but since the car is so low, we could not have the header so low. We had to shorten the tube length and slightly change the angle of the collectors. We also changed the flange.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0289.jpg

You can see that before we modified the headers, they were the lowest part of the car.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0304.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0327.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0324.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0323.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_1166.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_1164.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_1162.jpg

After they were modified, they are now about equal to the frame.


http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0789.jpg

70rs 01-07-2010 06:07 PM

Tucked up nice and tight now!:thumbsup:

waynieZ 01-07-2010 08:00 PM

Nice job on the headers, its a shame they don't come like that already.

73CPCAMARO 01-07-2010 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 259729)
Nice job on the headers, its a shame they don't come like that already.

Because the car is so low and the transmission and rear end are tucked up much higher than stock, the angle of the drivetrain makes the headers worse. They are probably good for most applications. Don't want to rip on Edelbrock. Modifiying their quality headers was still much cheaper than making them from scratch.

silver63c10 01-07-2010 09:48 PM

Awesome, awesome project. The tie-in with your dad's car just makes everything that much better. Thanks for sharing, I'll definitely be watching for updates.

XcYZ 01-08-2010 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver63c10 (Post 259747)
Awesome, awesome project. The tie-in with your dad's car just makes everything that much better. Thanks for sharing, I'll definitely be watching for updates.


I agree, an awesome project, and the tie-in with your Dad's 72 makes it just that much cooler.

73CPCAMARO 01-14-2010 08:18 PM

The exhaust system is just about complete. The edelbrock headers go into an all stainless steel pipe with a custom built cross over. There are two Magnaflow straight thru mufflers and then go into one pipe. After they merge into one pipe, the exhaust then travels thru a large straight thru Borla muffler. The goal is to get good flow and keep the car fairly quiet. The exhaust will exit out the quarter panel, between the door and wheel opening. I will show photos of that later. The tunnel had to be expanded for the exhaust.



http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0346.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0347.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0354.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0126.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...IMG_0369-1.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...IMG_0367-1.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...IMG_0405-1.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...IMG_0371-1.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...IMG_0372-1.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...ofIMG_0137.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...ofIMG_0204.jpg

73CPCAMARO 01-18-2010 05:13 PM

These are photo of the installed fuel cell. We cut out part of the rusted out floor. A new floor section will be installed later.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0134.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0135.jpg

70rs 01-18-2010 05:20 PM

I understand needing the clearance for the driveshaft and why the exhaust runs over it like that, but why choose the side exit and have to go through all of that in the first place? Or why the two into one and have to mess with going over the driveshaft when it could have stayed as two pipes and exit both sides of the car? I am not complaining, just curious about the thinking behind it.

73CPCAMARO 01-18-2010 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70rs (Post 262687)
I understand needing the clearance for the driveshaft and why the exhaust runs over it like that, but why choose the side exit and have to go through all of that in the first place? Or why the two into one and have to mess with going over the driveshaft when it could have stayed as two pipes and exit both sides of the car? I am not complaining, just curious about the thinking behind it.

It all comes down to the lack of room. The car is going to be so low, it all had to stay up. Packaging wise, there is simply no room to get past the rear end. The passenger side would have been nice to exit, but it has the offset third link and the battery will be there for weight. The drivers side behind the seat is the only place to put it. The thought of going back to a single pipe is to save space by using one muffler and also it worked out great for sound. We installed this same set up for a test on our Corvette, and it was amazing how quiet we got it. We have some sites that are very restrictive on sound limits.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...IMG_0371-1.jpg

WSSix 01-18-2010 05:34 PM

I was wondering the same thing. It makes sense that you have packaging issues and are almost forced to route the exhaust like that. I figured with how much planning is going into this car for function that there was no way that much effort was done for looks.

I can't wait to see this thing on the ground. 2nd gens look so amazing sitting very low. Your car also being functional makes it all the more sweeter

73CPCAMARO 01-18-2010 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WSSix (Post 262695)
I was wondering the same thing. It makes sense that you have packaging issues and are almost forced to route the exhaust like that. I figured with how much planning is going into this car for function that there was no way that much effort was done for looks.

I can't wait to see this thing on the ground. 2nd gens look so amazing sitting very low. Your car also being functional makes it all the more sweeter

Function is first and try to make it look the best we could. Once all the paneling is installed, you won't see any of the exhaust anyway. The pipe exits just above the rocker on the quarter panel. When I get it closer to completion, I will post some photos.

73CPCAMARO 01-20-2010 02:48 PM

Here are some photos of the 3 - link rear suspension. The watts link is located on the bottom of the rear end housing and the lower arms go through the frame rails, instead of narrowing them link the DSE 4 link set up.
The length of the lower links and upper link are at optimal length for handling. Packaging not an issue with this car as we eliminated the rear seat.


http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0201.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0797.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0801.jpg



http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...IMG_0208-1.jpg


http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...IMG_0309-1.jpg

Cris@JCG 01-20-2010 02:53 PM

You are tempting to remove the rear seat out of my Camaro!! :D like the way the watts link is done :thumbsup:


Quote:

Originally Posted by 73CPCAMARO (Post 263236)
Here are some photos of the 3 - link rear suspension. The watts link is located on the bottom of the rear end housing and the lower arms go through the frame rails, instead of narrowing them link the DSE 4 link set up.
The length of the lower links and upper link are at optimal length for handling. Packaging not an issue with this car as we eliminated the rear seat.


http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0201.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0797.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...b/IMG_0801.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...ofIMG_0141.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...IMG_0309-1.jpg


tones2SS 01-20-2010 03:28 PM

Very nice.
That's some nice work guys!:thumbsup:

66LS7 01-20-2010 05:54 PM

Killer job keep the pics coming:thumbsup:

73lt4 01-20-2010 06:27 PM

That is pure cool!


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