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pokey64 01-06-2010 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.VENGEANCE (Post 259338)


Is that what an "exigent" looks like?

pokey64 01-06-2010 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rwhite692 (Post 259335)
tis is a special order for a exigent custumer , this guy want a hybrid version of a muscle car and a exotic car so whe design
a complete chassis monocoque elarge the body of 5 inches
back off the engine of 14 inches and make a tow place car to put the dry sump and the full cell back off the seats for a 50/50 pounds transfert .

and many many more stuff like that.
History of this Vehicle

whe are 4 guy in this story the first is the customer ho belive in us to spend about a million dollars in this project ,me and my friends built motors 15 years ago for fun after this every bodies go back to school i go take my bodieshop class and my friends take is ingenior class whe want to built a car to put all wath whe got in this 15 years of learning and work so whe start this project in 2004 my ingenior friends design the chassis and the suspension design the pounds repartition and the downforce i built the chassis alone cut the car in half
elarge of 5 inches to get a 64 inches of track whit 14 inches of tire at the back 335/35zr18 and 63 inches of track at front whit 12 inches of tire 285/35zr18 i design all the body style cut the front fender and the rear quater make a new front whit spoiler and a awsome hood whit fonctional duck to exit the wind the cowldown the radiator a cowl induction air graber style and louver to get off the hot air of the engine and many more thing are be done by me and another friends of mine the came to work whit me in 2005 we finish the car in 2009 and now whe are on the trak to adjust the suspension whit a pi data logger whe got 1g on the skid pad of 200 feet at 65 kmh whe are verry satisfied of this result .
Plans for this Vehicle

beat exotic car whit a muscle car and show the car in american magasine to show all the exigent work the have done on this car.

I got an email from a guy that read like this one time. But he was a nigerian prince and wanted to pay me to handle some money. :_paranoid

GregWeld 01-06-2010 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by James OLC (Post 259357)
You're right Greg - my point in including it at all was (a) the new chassis is really, really cool and (IMHO) better engineered than the one that is in this post (an offset cell - really?) and (b) there are some pretty basic similarities in the front end styling and while the car in this post does not carry that theme through the car, Tyler's design did (ie the rockers and the front air damn were on the same plane) and (c) it was kind of a free plug since it's for sale (:D ). But you're right, at this point it capabilities are all supposition and until it is done it's not in the running.

So... let's get Penny and MotiV8R and Carl together and settle this thing right now! The 2010 Baddest 1968 Camaro in the Universe Street Car Invitational (?) :cheers:


James -- Thanks for seeing me eye to eye... :rofl:

Okay -- Now on to Larry's MotiV8R.... After his "excursion" at Pahrump.... you really think he's EVER going to track that car again? I'm thinking that car
gets packed in cotton balls and never hits red line again.

Penny is just flat bad to the bone... does it all really well - and looks good... and with Steve's new motor it will do it even better... I would hope.
:thumbsup:

Steve1968LS2 01-06-2010 05:14 PM

While I REALLY appreciate the amount of fab work in this car I have to wonder if it will ever go near a track or any sort of driving venue. If it doesn't then that's sort of sad.

I'm also not sure if the look of the car works well with the parts that are in it.. I feel it needed to be a little less blingy and a bit more angry looking.

That said I think some of the fab work on that car is crazy cool and there must be a bazillion hours invested. Would die to have some of those features on my car.

Very cool.

GregWeld 01-06-2010 05:15 PM

@ Pokey


I got that same Nigerian email -- they wired me 40 million bucks...

You had to be the first guy in that pyramid!

:wow: :rofl:

jmac 01-06-2010 05:15 PM

You guys can make fun of this person's english, but you have to admit that he has more talent than 97% of the members on this board, including myself.

Obviously there is some sort of language barrier here, but I think he gets his point accross well.

The car is definitely cool, not my cup of tea, but you have to admit the fabrication work is outstanding.

ironworks 01-06-2010 05:17 PM

I like the build pics WWWWWAAAAAAYYYYYY better then the end product. But who builds a square tube race car, Think of how much unneeded weight that car has.

It is an honor to think Tyler's 50/50 Car would even be thought about in the "Best of the Universe" contest. But Greg, Just to be clear 50/50 has come a million miles from the abortion that some body put under that car however many years ago. That particular chassis ranks high on a whole other list of mine. :D

Steve1968LS2 01-06-2010 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by James OLC (Post 259357)
So... let's get Penny and MotiV8R and Carl together and settle this thing right now! The 2010 Baddest 1968 Camaro in the Universe Street Car Invitational (?) :cheers:

I'm in... just let me get that new 440 installed.. lol

What other "cool" 68s are out there? Velocity over at Ridetech is pretty badass.. I know I'm missing some.

I would run against this car.. after all I have nothing to lose. lol

If I win it's "Hey, I beat a million $$$$ Camaro!"
If I lose then it's "Hey, what do you expect, the guy had a million $$$$ Camaro!"

:)

Steve1968LS2 01-06-2010 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 259385)
I like the build pics WWWWWAAAAAAYYYYYY better then the end product. But who builds a square tube race car, Think of how much unneeded weight that car has.

That was my thought.. I kept getting more excited as I went through the pics until I got to the end and was sort of let down (Except the interior which was nice).. the exterior just doesn't mesh with what lies beneath. The guy who built it is a genious at fabrication, but he should have hire a designer for the overall look.

Someone needs to buy and finish 50/50.. that's for sure.

GregWeld 01-06-2010 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 259385)
I like the build pics WWWWWAAAAAAYYYYYY better then the end product. But who builds a square tube race car, Think of how much unneeded weight that car has.

It is an honor to think Tyler's 50/50 Car would even be thought about in the "Best of the Universe" contest. But Greg, Just to be clear 50/50 has come a million miles from the abortion that some body put under that car however many years ago. That particular chassis ranks high on a whole other list of mine. :D

Oh - I agree Rodger... it was the "inclusion" of this "build" that I was poking fun at... 'cause it's a long ways from entering any contests...

Steve1968LS2 01-06-2010 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Moreno (Post 259135)
They are running two sets of wheels (Kinesis and a Forgeline) depending on the day of the week, LOL.


So perhaps it's the best in the Milkyway on Mondays and transforms to the best of the Universe on Tuesday, LOL. :cheers:

Well that's good to hear.. the full polish wheels just don't do it.. the other ones are :drool: though...

70rs 01-06-2010 05:26 PM

It looks like Karma might be done this year. There is another one with a ton of performance potential in it. I think once it is dialed in and Anthony has a bit of seat time that it will be a real contender in the performance arena. And the build quality is also outstanding too!:cheers:

Roger M 01-06-2010 05:30 PM

Those might be Canadian dollars. It's actually not anywhere near that in US dollars

$1,000,000.00 CAD = $968,794.69 USD

GregWeld 01-06-2010 05:32 PM

:rofl: :rofl: Karma is in the running for the same competition 50/50 is up for...

Only it's in the lead by a paint job and a motor!

Loved the spread on his paint in the Camaro Performers mag...

ironworks 01-06-2010 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 259389)
Oh - I agree Rodger... it was the "inclusion" of this "build" that I was poking fun at... 'cause it's a long ways from entering any contests...

Unless the contest is best use of tube in a chassis, you might be correct. :D

70rs 01-06-2010 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 259396)
:rofl: :rofl: Karma is in the running for the same competition 50/50 is up for...

Only it's in the lead by a paint job and a motor!

Loved the spread on his paint in the Camaro Performers mag...

No, only that the performance of some of these cars was compared and I think that Karma will be/could be on par with these cars in that area. AFTER a complete shakedown and some serious tuning of both the car and the driver. My point was that Karma is right up ther in quality and possibly performace with the best of them. (obviously the performance has yet to be seen)

GregWeld 01-06-2010 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 72tunaboa (Post 259394)
Those might be Canadian dollars. It's actually not anywhere near that in US dollars

$1,000,000.00 CAD = $968,794.69 USD

Roger --

No problem -- just take it to Barrett Jackson - and someone will pay twice that much... just to get face time with Amy.... or maybe "the screamer".

dhutton 01-06-2010 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jmac (Post 259383)
You guys can make fun of this person's english, but you have to admit that he has more talent than 97% of the members on this board, including myself.

Obviously there is some sort of language barrier here, but I think he gets his point accross well.

The car is definitely cool, not my cup of tea, but you have to admit the fabrication work is outstanding.


The builder is French Canadian. His primary language is French. He writes better English than most of us could write French.

I agree, like it or not he has some top notch fab skills.

Don

jmac 01-06-2010 06:05 PM

What about Vinny's 68?

http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/sho...ight=VINNY%27S

http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/sho...ight=VINNY%27S

I love this car, cause it's a big block!
And it seems to perform pretty well!

GregWeld 01-06-2010 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dhutton (Post 259402)
The builder is French Canadian. His primary language is French. He writes better English than most of us could write French.

I agree, like it or not he has some top notch fab skills.

Don

Yep - I don't care if he speaks Nigerian or Swahili -- he built some kool stuff.

Agree with some other posters here though - would be way mo' betta if there was some track times to go with the build... Otherwise it's just an exercise in "because I can".

Roger M 01-06-2010 06:23 PM

Google is your friend
 
OK. All this talk about the Baddest 68 Camaro in the UNIVERSE got me to search. Here is the top 68 Camaro image that came up.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n...968_Camaro.jpg

Now, If you just search Baddest 68 Camaro (without Universe), you will see Steve's car on the top row. :thumbsup:
http://images.google.com/images?q=ba...N&hl=en&tab=wi

Al Moreno 01-06-2010 06:53 PM

[QUOTE=72tunaboa;259430]OK. All this talk about the Baddest 68 Camaro in the UNIVERSE got me to search. Here is the top 68 Camaro image that came up.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n...968_Camaro.jpg

LOL:lol:

Steve1968LS2 01-06-2010 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jmac (Post 259417)
What about Vinny's 68?

http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/sho...ight=VINNY%27S

http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/sho...ight=VINNY%27S

I love this car, cause it's a big block!
And it seems to perform pretty well!

I knew I was forgetting one.. yea, that would be on my "baddest 68 Camaro" list

CarlC 01-06-2010 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2 (Post 259386)
I'm in... just let me get that new 440 installed.. lol

What other "cool" 68s are out there? Velocity over at Ridetech is pretty badass.. I know I'm missing some.

I would run against this car.. after all I have nothing to lose. lol

If I win it's "Hey, I beat a million $$$$ Camaro!"
If I lose then it's "Hey, what do you expect, the guy had a million $$$$ Camaro!"

:)

I'd still be bringing a trowel to a gunfight, and loving every minute of it. Thanks for the invite James. Put some blue tape over your windwings and we'll count yours as a '68 too. Just let us know when and where!

To each his own on builds like this. The fabrication and ideas on this project are great. Even if there are things that you don't like, there are lots of cool ideas that we could find ways to incorporate. Are there things I would change? Yes, but that may not fit what the owner of this car wanted. Sometimes appearances are forced to change or be out of sync due to the drivetrain requirements of the car.

Steve1968LS2 01-06-2010 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlC (Post 259465)
I'd still be bringing a trowel to a gunfight, and loving every minute of it. Thanks for the invite James. Put some blue tape over your windwings and we'll count yours as a '68 too. Just let us know when and where!

To each his own on builds like this. The fabrication and ideas on this project are great. Even if there are things that you don't like, there are lots of cool ideas that we could find ways to incorporate. Are there things I would change? Yes, but that may not fit what the owner of this car wanted. Sometimes appearances are forced to change or be out of sync due to the drivetrain requirements of the car.

And I could invite someone like Boris Said to drive all the cars just to make it fair... (I lost the Stig's number)...

Young Gun 01-06-2010 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MtotheIKEo (Post 259122)
Are you familiar with rod ends? They can pivot freely inside the race, instead of the pivoting around a trunnion they are using the ball as the pivot. Works fine as long as you stay within the limited amount of misalignment for the given rod end.

Awesome, thats the answer I was looking for!

DFRESH 01-06-2010 09:31 PM

This car had me at "All aluminum BBC dry sump". I choose to overlook the hideous wing because of this.

MarkM66 01-07-2010 05:51 AM

It's definitely has the right moves to make it the baddest.

I'd like to know the aerodynamic specs. It might be the only first gen to not produce front lift.

http://www.camaro-untoldsecrets.com/...article_fs.htm

68protouring454 01-07-2010 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 259385)
I like the build pics WWWWWAAAAAAYYYYYY better then the end product. But who builds a square tube race car, Think of how much unneeded weight that car has.

It is an honor to think Tyler's 50/50 Car would even be thought about in the "Best of the Universe" contest. But Greg, Just to be clear 50/50 has come a million miles from the abortion that some body put under that car however many years ago. That particular chassis ranks high on a whole other list of mine. :D

lots build from square. just about every trans am car is more square tube(main chassis rails etc) then round, also Lg's gt cars have alot of square in them as well.
it maybe uneeded weight, but there are limits to amount of lead etc that can be used, and weight can be good when its used in the middle of the car low to the ground between the wheels.

rwhite692 01-07-2010 08:26 AM

As to the fuel cell being offset to the pass. side, I don't see a big problem with that, since the intent may be to offset the effect of driver position/weight. Plus the oil tank is next to it so the combined weight of the two may be pretty well centered on the car, anyway.

The wing is indeed hideous looking, but may be quite functional depending on the intended use of the car. Full belly pan, QC rear, etc...the intent of the build sure seems to be to do some sustained high speed running, as in 200+....of course he will need the right tires for that but he may have them for all we know.

It would indeed be great if the builder/owner could get on here and explain his intentions for the car. Quite an impressive build.

James OLC 01-07-2010 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkM66 (Post 259503)
It's definitely has the right moves to make it the baddest.

I'd like to know the aerodynamic specs. It might be the only first gen to not produce front lift.

http://www.camaro-untoldsecrets.com/...article_fs.htm

Maybe the only '68 not to produce front lift...

californiacuda 01-07-2010 09:28 AM

Bob Johnson's Cuda sold for what a half mil. I don't think that its seen much track time, last I heard it broke an axle.

Beautiful, beautiful car. But it seems like it more of a work of art than a vehicle that's shown performance against other vehicles.

byndbad914 01-07-2010 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 259385)
I like the build pics WWWWWAAAAAAYYYYYY better then the end product. But who builds a square tube race car, Think of how much unneeded weight that car has.

:lol: started that discussion in another thread - actual engineering is a bit lost on some to understand design v. weight, they just think size v. stiffness and 2" round bar is not as good as 2x2 box... yeah, if you're working for Massey-Ferguson then have at it.

It's okay tho', just means we'll be lighter and faster than the competition :rofl: If everyone were smart as hell there would be no fast food servers, and I loves me some burgers and fries on my way home from work.

As for much of the "real" race cars that use square tube, you have to consider the size of the tubing, the location in the vehicle, and why they are using that shape for ease of use with other components... there is a time/place when square tube is fine of course and can be much easier to work with. Look at the new C6Rs for instance and where there is round bar and where there is square.

As to the car starting this thread, there are some ideas I can see he has incorporated that I have planned to use on my next venture with a 70 Mustang and I am sorta surprised to see I was a bit beat to the punch but nonetheless I think this car is pretty cool, especially some of the work with the front uprights and overall adjust-ability that often gets overlooked.

byndbad914 01-07-2010 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hdesign (Post 259230)
Very cool car....found their garage on the Hub. Lots of pix

http://www.hubgarage.com/mygarage/belou/vehicles/43081

thanks for posting that link BTW! Ver' nize. :thumbsup:

ProTouring442 01-07-2010 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sniper (Post 259157)
I remember reading the rules of the board, and I did not see anywhere in there that said, I must post pics of my work, before making "negative" comments on someone elses car.

Simmer down, It's just my opinion. Jeez, I guess no one around here is ever allowed to make a comment that doesn't follow the status quo. And I said nothing about the build quality of the rest of the build, so please do not put words in my mouth. I commented on one single thing.

And to your other point, what has what I built or NOT built have to do with just giving an opinion on something someone else posts on the internet? And I suppose he posted his car to get some opinions, and quite possibly knowing that not everything he did is what everyone else would like. We are all supposed to be grown up, and taking some nobody's critque should be easy.

I believe the problem might not be in the fact that you gave your opinion, but rather in the way that you gave it. There is a very large difference between saying someone's wife looks like a bucket of ugly thrown on a pile of fat, and saying that she isn't your type.

Happy New Year!
Bill

sniper 01-07-2010 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ProTouring442 (Post 259630)
I believe the problem might not be in the fact that you gave your opinion, but rather in the way that you gave it. There is a very large difference between saying someone's wife looks like a bucket of ugly thrown on a pile of fat, and saying that she isn't your type.

Happy New Year!
Bill

I removed my post in order to keep this thread on track. But thank you for your input.

MarkM66 01-07-2010 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by James OLC (Post 259535)
Maybe the only '68 not to produce front lift...

Tell us... :)


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