I'm not hot. Just trying to be clear. Rather than bench race about decibels, it's best to look at the car's complete picture.

The 9.98 run (as with all other drives) was done with a 3.73 gear, a 3000 stall 10.5" converter, a full interior and an all steel body including the hood. Faster elapsed times are available with the benefit of a progressive nitrous controller and more nitrous. The suspension is adjusted entirely without tools. Bret's push button controller an rebound/compression shock adjustments are all that's required to jack up and preload the rear suspension.

Vinnie plans on making many more runs, Please clarify when a nine is a nine 9.80's?, 70's,.....20's. I'll have Vinnie make a run just for you.

I think its very possible on a DR, lots of ppl daily drive there car, take them to events, do tours, etc... on drag radials so i don't see why they would be ruled out. Also Ive seen Vipers run 9's on street tires for awhile now, one of my friends has done it a few times. Granted the MPH is in the 160's but its possible to get that kind of power with the motors ppl are building in these things now. I guess i'll just have to accept the fact that my car will be a modern pro street car, just a lot more comfy and a lot more drivable. :woot:

Wow this thread is still at the top, all I can add at this point are these two simple equations


Drag Racing is congruent to Prostreet

as


Road Racing is congruent to Pro-touring

:_paranoid

I used to live in NYC -- it's a very stressful place to live. Are you building cars there?

I need to update my User Profile. We just moved down to Ormond Beach Florida. "The Birthplace of Speed" .... next to Daytona.

That is amazing. And that guy can darn sure drive, too.

I'm going to hijack this thread for just one more post...

If a person was AutoX'n' and they turned a 49.7 --- would they then tell people they ran a "Fourty"?

If I was running a road course - and ran a 1.52 -- would I say I ran a "one"...

In racing -- TIMES COUNT - and HUNDREDTHS COUNT.... Leave statements like I run "9's" in the bar with a bunch of people that don't know and don't care... a 9.98 is DAMN impressive (I'm MORE THAN impressed!) - but it ain't a 9... and to argue otherwise is just silly semantics. A 9 is a 9.0 -- or it ain't... unless you say I run INTO the 9's... and then it's some number that is "into" the 9's... We used to say it like this -- We broke into the 9's.... and that is what a 9.98 is...

I love the car - love the build - but I also like facts... So let's be friends. Cause it's all good. And now my stomach is turned and I don't like that... :cheers:

I have to agree that it's a 9 second run. I've always heard drag racing numbers referred to as INTO the 9's or 10's. There's no rounding up in drag racing. He wouldn't be invited into the 10.0 class on Pinks with that run.

http://image.superchevy.com/f/130020...od_saboury.jpg



https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=524

That's not a 7 second car, and it's not a 5 second car, it's a 6 second car.

If Vin ran lower than a 10.0, then he's got a 9 second car. Period.

Vinnie's car is a 9 second car.

If he ran an 8.99, he'd have an 8 second car.

Greg, it's OK that you don't know the terminology... this is a PT site. :)

jp

Here is a six second car my current engine builder crew chiefs and builds the little 440 Ford that makes 2500hp. I went out and watched them run 2 weeks ago. That car takes off like a rocket. They are getting ready to make some changes and step it up more. And I thought this hobby was expensive!

vinny wont need encouragement. His car easily has 9.6's in it with another 100 shot, making it 200 total. as frank said he could probably pull it off, we will see. As steve says, that car does nothing but run, say it can't run in traffic, come to pigeon forge on rtth weekend and sit in traffic for 2 hrs getting home from the autox.
we will have video when it happens.
no, if you run a 1:52, on a road course they will break it down into hundreths, so if you run a 1:52.9 its a 1:52, not a one, not even close to an accurate comparison, same goes for the autox x comparison.
vinnys exhaust is spin tech 3 inch oval, x pipe and there pro mod mufflers. its every bit as bad as it looks, sounds and performs, period. There is no taking that away. its not verbal diarrhea,it proof.
btw- he picked up 6-7 tenths with 100 shot from his all motor run, add in a progressive controller to dial shot in over a few seconds he would of gone faster on the 100 and easily taken another 3-4 tenths with the extra 100.

.Everyone learns then:thumbsup:

That,s a bad ass ride there!!!!

i was gonna ask what exhaust he has, it sounds good...hes running an Airbar too right? Sounds like it will take some abuse!

The triangle 4 bars (Air Bar G Bar, Prodigy Bar) are the very best on the drag strip of all the Pro Touring G machine suspension types. As I convert my street drag car I plan to see how good a G link is compared to the drag race ladder bar set up I have now. The G link adjuatability should make it work extremely well.

Ive been looking at your phone number all week trying to talk myself into a g-link Frank lol.. I need some wilwood rear brakes too.. those 20" billet specialties wheels I bought through you a while back are beautiful:thumbsup:

The plan for my falcon is to make it good at lots of things. I will achieve that is through lots of adjustable pieces. Suspension, double adjustable coilovers, wheels/tires and even two different small block motor builds. The car will be light and most of the advantages will come from that trait.

Well -- I guess I'm just to old to change -- because in my book an 8.99 is called an "EIGHT NINETIES" car.... not an 8 second car - implying that it can run near 8.0's....

The plate on Sabourys car says it correctly -- IN THE 6's....

In my book - if your car runs 14's or 15's -- then maybe you could call it by the law of large numbers - because who cares... but when you start dipping into the 10's or 9's... each 10th becomes harder to get... and in that territory I think the effort gets rewarded by saying a little more (adding an adjective) such as I've stated all along. It's IN the 9's - or it's a 9 five car etc....

I'd call Vinnies car a NINE NINETIES car UNTIL it broke into the 9 eighties and then I'd call it a 9 eighties car -- and I'd kiss his arse because it's a killer build.

:cheers:

and that's the exact reason why I agree with the others that wether it's a 9.0 or a 9.99, it's still "running 9's". some might say that they ran a nine with an eight (9.8x), or if they are solidly into the nines, they might just say they ran a five three (meaning a 9.53) or something like that.

in drag racing, that's the way it's usually referred to. if you remember the first time someone broke the five second barrier, they said that they were now running four seconds, not 4.99 or 4.98, they said four seconds. it's just the way drag racing is. once you break the actual barrier of 12, 10, 9, 8, etc, etc, you have now earned the opportunity to say that you ran the next lowest number. it's the way the whole sport does it, but I guess this would be the wrong site to really get into this conversation:cheers:

Weld, you're wrong, we're right.:P

So if my car runs 12.0's, and one day I hit an 11.99, the people at the drag strip are going to tell me to leave until i get a roll bar and all the other 11 second stuff right? Or can I say no, I run 12's, and sometimes 11.99's I don't need it..? I remember when I hit a 12.99 and I needed a helmet, there was no argument about whether or not I had a 12 second car, it was "you run in the 12's, you need a helmet, thanks bye" and I had to borrow one quick to keep racing... to me at that point I had a 12 second car, although I did tell people it runs high 12's..:_paranoid

Only on a forum could 15 guys argue about something so stupid. I'm guessing it would take about 2 minutes at the bar between friends.:unibrow:

UNCLE!!!!


:faint: :rofl:

You guys crack me up!!:D Starting to sound like chicks.:rofl:

Eric -

They're ganging up on me!

:rofl:

:lol: this is funny!

WHATTEVVARRR:willy: :lol:

Greg, just wanted to let you know my X-Treme Drag Radial car went a 7.81 @ 187.5 MPH.

To everyone else here, my X-Treme Drag Radial car goes 7's at a buck 90. (In heads up racing we round down on the ET and up on the MPH) :lol:

Now, the PT is slow no matter how much power I will have in it--but it does corner much nicer, and does so with the AC on and my kids in it.

If you want to do both and be competitive, build two cars--the drag car will never be fast enough for me even though it is a purpose built car, and the PT car will never be fast enough even though it is purpously built to not be a drag car. I think it's just in my nature to want more power in every car I have--my wallet doesn't always agree, however it doesn't stop my wants.

Steve and Jake, always impressed with your stuff---that car of V's is a bad mother. Props to you guys for actually pulling that off--got to be one of the best "sounding" PT cars to date that actually backs it up with an ET and handles the twists as well. Great execution all the way around.

Doug

This car went 11.16 @ 122 (1.52) just as it sits in this picture:
http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicle...1974212433.jpg

Same car with a swap of rims & tires, it went 10.77 @ 125 (1.47):
http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicle.../197411132.jpg

Same car on the 17's (and the front sway bar) was driven on some of California's finest mountain roads.

Trying to drag race on baloney skins is frustrating. IMO, if your going to drag race and auto-cross, have 2 sets of rims and have fun. Why handy cap yourself?

thats cool john BUT too bad its only a ten seventies car and not a ten second car!!!!!!!!!!!:rofl:

Video or it didn't happen. :lol:

Come on dude---it runs that fast everytime I use the "Desktop Dyno"--I am going to tweek the camspecs just a little bit more---there we go--just went a 7.60. :lol:

You still coming down in June so we can drive back up north? I'll take you for a spin in the drag car---Fly in on Friday evening, stay here or bring the shifterless gokart you have and make the trip with us--

Doug

Doug --

If I reply to this thread anymore - TODD is going to come up here and kill me (if he doesn't rust up like the Tin Man).

:lol:

I am certainly not big on the european cars...... this might qualify. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BwIniaHIUE I know you could do it, if you had the money it is possible. My brother has a Outlaw 10.5 car that has been as quick as 4.37 and as fast as 177. with turbo setups that are available I think you could do this with a C5/C6 vette. Go ahead fire away! Shawn

Greg, after he runs his car at the Super Chevy event, let's see how it et's--it will most likely warrant bringing this up all over again:unibrow:. Plus, you know how shy he is--

Doug

Doug --

Wrote him the other day -- after he completely FAILED to support me on the "9's" vs my wanting to be more clear and calling it a "nine nineties".... and told him -- I'd better not catch him calling his new motor "650 hp" IF it ONLY made 648.7 !!

It's hard to show your sense of humor in these posts -- but I do take all of this "discussion" in stride and with fun intentions...

It only works that way with ET's. You round down with ET's and round up with horse power numbers. :rofl:

Ken --

You're right!! I've learned this...
:rofl:

Ok, so we round up on HP, down on ET's .......what do we do with lap times? I say round down to the nearest second. Forget hundredths, I am talking seconds. :D