Thanks Bryce!

Yeah Scott, I can't wait to see it with the wheels to, I believe the order got sent in on Monday so I should see them in 2 - 4 weeks. It will be like a big xmas present to myself, lol.

Scott, how is your project coming along?

Thanks,
Jon

Wow, took a little time to find this thread, looks like every body is making progress besides me, lol.

Well got a small update, me and my Dad finished the building the right side tub and it is ready to be welded in.

I bought a 22 gallon Fuel Safe Enduro cell and we started building the cage/mount for it. The cell is to tall to fit in the trunk so we are making the cell and the mount removable from the bottom.
http://inlinethumb25.webshots.com/30...600x600Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb35.webshots.com/44...600x600Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb50.webshots.com/46...600x600Q85.jpg

We have to make some mounting brackets to bolt it to the panhard bar crossmember and to the rear frame rails and then add the bottom support rails.

Also, I bought a set of Tilton Racing firewall mount pedals, got a good deal using summit racing's coupons. This setup uses a two master cylinders and a balance bar that I will be adjusting by a Tilton remote adjuster that will be mounted on the transmission tunnel.
http://inlinethumb61.webshots.com/44...600x600Q85.jpg

I should be seeing my wheels some time this coming week, the car is getting pretty close to being a rolling chassis. Just have to finish the panhard bar setup and make the rear coilover mounts.

Thanks,
Jon

Jon,Look's real good.Sorry I haven't called been thrashing on the camaro trying to get it ready for paint.And trying to get the rest of the part's needed to finish the thing up.I need to get this thing almost finished before I start thinking of another project.So if you still have when I get the camaro running I will cal you.Thank's Scott.

I understand Scott, the only problem is that I have not seen any updates on your camaro for awhile, lol.

Thanks,
Jon

The wheel tubs are finally done! Well at least for the fabrication part still need to clean them up and seal them, that will happen after most of the fab work on the rear is done. Seems like we have been working on these things forever.

Also, some progress on the fuel cell mount. Got the hole cut in the trunk, made and welded the front bolt on brackets. I still have to make the rear brackets, add bottom supports for the tank and 2 straps to hold the tank in. Do to the jackstands holding the rear of the car up, I will most likely finish this project after we get the panhard bar finalized (waiting on wheels) and get the main part of the roll cage in the car, so I can remove the stands to finish the mounts.

Heres some pics,
http://inlinethumb57.webshots.com/47...600x600Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb11.webshots.com/27...600x600Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb28.webshots.com/46...600x600Q85.jpg

I didn't get my wheels this past week so I should see them in the next few days, I will try to get the tires mounted and mocked up on the car this weekend.

Thanks,
Jon

Amazing work.
Getting any car back on its wheels is a very big deal, congratulations.:thumbsup:

looks great Jon:thumbsup:

Jon,Looking real good.The camaro is in pcs. all over the shop.Will be taking it to the paint shop next week.Not much to show everybody.After it get's some color and have it as a finished car will post some photo's.Might send you some spy shot's.Keep up the great work on your end.Scott:thumbsup:

Yay my wheels are here!

Here is some pictures of the rear, the are forgeline ZX3R 17x11 with toyo r888 315/35r17 on them. The pictures are with the rear end at ride height.

http://inlinethumb37.webshots.com/47...600x600Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb45.webshots.com/42...600x600Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb30.webshots.com/38...600x600Q85.jpg

Thanks,
Jon

The wheels looks sweet! Nice work it looks great.

Awesome.Wheels are smokin cool.:thumbsup:

lookin good
 

NICE JOB
:thumbsup: LOVE THAT BODY STYLE...
KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK

TOM

Thanks guys!

Hopefully I can get the rear suspension buttoned up here pretty soon, so I can start on the engine bay bars and the roll bar. After thats done I got to set this thing on the ground and see what it looks like, seems like it has been sitting on the stands forever!

Thanks,
Jon

oh man those wheels look awesome! :cool:

Thanks man, alot of saving went for those, lol.

So hows your car coming? I have seen that you are working on the grill, it looks pretty good so far. Also how is the engine build going? Are you coming down here to pick it up when it is done or are they shipping it up to you?

Thanks,
Jon

I'm coming down to pick up the engine. we got delayed because the oil pickup for the new milodon road race pan we're using wasn't ready. engine is supposed to be done in 2 weeks. so, fingers crossed, first week of March I'll be coming down.

cool, I will keep my fingers crossed it gets done too. What transmission will you be using? Let me know when you get done here, it would be cool to see it.

Thanks,
Jon

Those wheels look great

Hey Jon, I'm new here and just finished reading your build. All I can say is WOW, your doing an awsome job. I'm a real sucker for different cars, nice to see an AMC pro tour...:thumbsup:

Thanks guys, it's nice to hear people like the car.

Thanks,
Jon

Jon, how are thing's coming along on the javelin.What back spacing did you end up w/ on the frt.and rear wheels.:thumbsup: Scott

Hey Scott,

Things are moving pretty slow right now because of the weather, I just picked up a stick of 1.75" x .120 wall dom, so I hope to start the engine bay down bars. Still have to figure out how I want to do it. I also want to go down one day on the weekend to watch the guys at RTTC, hopefully it doesn't rain to bad Saturday.

I also just ordered a new GN Full Floater Moser rear housing and axles, the overall width flange to flange will be 56.5". This will complete all the parts I need to assemble the rear end, as I already have the hubs, Detroit locker, polished 3.64 gears and a Moser aluminum 3rd member. I was going to go with the gun drilled axles, but at $75 more per axle I didn't see the small weight savings worth it, plus the non gun drilled axles have a life time warranty! I should get this stuff by next Friday.

I keep wanting to put a full cage in it, but there's just not enough clearance from the a-pillar bar to my head. I don't want to wear a helmet every time I drive it on the street so I got to stick to a roll bar. I also thought about gutting the interior expect the door panels and dash with a cage, and do like you did to your penske camaro, but I don't know.

The backspacing on the wheels is 6.9 front and rear. The fronts are 17x9.5 and the rears are 11" wide I might have to send the front wheels back to be modified to fit the front brake kit that I want, I am working with Frank to get that done, so it shouldn't be a problem.

So Scott, is there any color on that Camaro yet!

Thanks,
Jon

Jon, no color on the camaro yet.Brian is trying to get everything perfect w/the body work.

hey Jon,

ok, I'm going to be in your neighborhood next Friday (March 4th) to dyno the motor! If you're interested and available you could come to Speed o Motive for the dyno session. I should be in the afternoon around 3pm.

Also, I'm looking for a place to crash Friday night. then I'm going to drive home Sat. AM.

Got my IFS and Trans today! Trans is a built up T5 called an A5 from Astro Performance.

Well I started to bend some tube for the front engine bay bars and figured out how I am going to do them. Just have to bend the right side bar and make the mounting plates.

I will post some pictures tomorrow of what I got done.

Asif, I would like to see your engine on the dyno, I will check with my boss to see if I can get off a couple hours early. I wish I could help you out on the place to stay, we are doing some remodeling so every thing is a big mess.

I read your blog and saw the pictures of the front end, looks like a nice piece. Your doing an awesome job on this car and I can't wait to see it run!

Thanks,
Jon

hold up Jon. now they're making noise like it might not be ready. I'll let you know as soon as I get a firm date from them.

Can U Make These
 

LOVE THE PROJECT.. thinking of using the same setup. do you have a template of the drop downs or know the measurements because i believe they will work for my project.the table is a great idea. looks like dad can fab
thanks
Tom

Unfortunately, I don't have the measurements or a template. What we did was first level the car out and then used a angle finder on the floor board to find the angle.

I started with where I wanted the ride height to be, 5.5" from the ground to the bottom of the lower frame section.

To get the height of the c6 clip, we put the clip on the table with the suspension on it, then leveled out the lower control arm so that the lower ball joint was level with the lca bolts. Then we took the loaded radius of the Tire (toyo r888 275/40r 17 with a static loaded radius of 11.9") and raised the clip until we had 11.9" from the ground to the center of the hub.

After that it was pretty easy to figure out the down pieces, after you cut one end of the down piece with the angle you took off the floor board, you can hold it up on the table and trace out all the angles and cuts.

The table worked out great, it was only about $50 to build and was worth every cent. We used lag bolts underneath each leg to level the table. It made it very easy to build the frame, it was flat and nice and level. Plus being high off the ground made a good working height. Also, we screwed blocks of wood down so it would hold the metal in place while we were working.
Thanks,
Jon

It looks good. Nice work.

Thanks.


I just got my new full floater rear end housing and axles from Moser Engineering. Looks like a well built piece, it has a nice thick flange where the 3rd member mounts to, a lot nicer than the housing that's in the car now. I now have every thing to build the rear end, so as soon as we get the brackets welded on, get powder coated or painted, we will assemble it.

Thanks,
Jon

I thought converting my Javelin to a 5-speed was exhausting, I don't know how you do it but keep it up.:thumbsup:

Jon, I came by these pictures of a Javelin cage, thought they might be usefull for you.
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...k/MVC-479F.jpg
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...k/MVC-478F.jpg

Lol, thanks Mike, just trying it one step at a time. So when is the first road test with the new 5 speed gonna happen?

Thanks for the pictures of the cage it looks nice, that's pretty much how I am going to do my door bars as well. Who's Javelin is that?

Thanks,
Jon

A shop I work with (located In Kenosha of all places;)) , did the fab work on this. Not sure the owner, maybe it'll be at the Kenosha homecoming this year :thumbsup:
BTW, I pick up my next AMC project later this month so I'll be doing some fun fab work again in the future too. I'll post in the appropriate section when it's in my possession:P It will be stored for a while 'till I get my Javelin where I want it.

Jon,how are thing's coming along on your Javelin.Can't wait see your car setting on the ground.Once agian thank's for using one of my sub frame clip's.:thumbsup: Scott M.

Hey Scott,

Between the weather and working weekends, I haven't worked on the car the last past few weeks. I should be able to start working on it again this weekend, first thing I need to do is tack the 3 link brackets to the new housing, mock the rear end up and finish the panhard bar. I also need to finish planing out the roll bar and pick up the material for that.

Right now my front wheels are still at Forgeline getting fixed, they said that my 17" wheels would clear the baer 14" 6s brakes, but it's not even close to fitting the template. So I am changing my brake choice to The Brake Man's F4 caliper 13" rotor kit.

Man, I can't wait to finish this thing, well at least drivable.

Thanks,
Jon

subscribed....:thumbsup:

Jon,a 14" rotor is pretty big to stuff inside a 17" wheel.But I can't wait to see the javelin seating on the ground.My camaro should get some color this week I hope,and maybe the powder coat will done also.Keep us updated.:thumbsup:

WOW!! I can't believe almost a month went by with out an update, time sure does fly when your busy.

I haven't got to much progress made on the car, been doing a lot of thinking though.

First, on the rear suspension. We had to remake the upper link bracket due to the different shape the new moser housing has, but instead of that I decide to buy a set of brackets from coleman racing.They come with 3/4" holes for the bolts and my suspension set up has 5/8" bolts. Now I start looking at everybody else and their 3 links all are using 3/4" bolts, Now I am thinking that the 5/8" bolts are not going to be strong enough. So I was about ready to remake every bracket on the car, but I bought Carroll Smith's "Nuts, Bolts, Fasteners and Plumbing" hand book.

If I use a -10 AN (5/8" Air Corps/ Navy bolt) it has a allowable single shear strength of 23000 pounds at full diameter, and correct me if I am wrong, 46000 pounds at full diameter in double shear. With this bolt and a nice hd 5/8" bolt/ 3/4" shank rod end with a static load rated at 40000psi, I would be better than a Grade 8 3/4" bolt and a 3/4" bolt/ 3/4" shank rod end that is rated at 28000psi.

I am still trying to figure out what the shear strength of a Grade 8 3/4" bolt is but I have read that a grade 8 5/8" in single shear is 8000 pounds or 16000 pounds in double shear.



Any ways, I got the main hoop of the roll bar bent the other day, first one I have ever bent, and to my surprize it fit well on the first shot. I also kept going over the multiple ways of mounting the main hoop to the floor, and I think I came up with a good solution.

Pics:
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http://inlinethumb29.webshots.com/47...600x600Q85.jpg
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We are going to try and push the bottom of the hoop to get it closer to the rockers before we weld the hoop in. Also, this just reminded me to clean the spider webs out of the car, lol.


With the roll bar mounts done like this, it ties the frame and the rockers together and it allows me to move the hoop forward and drop it down to weld around the top. I also think it is stronger than mounting a single plate on floor. I also got the engine bay bars bent up, but I don't have pictures of them on my camera yet.

My front wheels are still at Forgeline, but I think we figured out how we need to fix them and they should be starting on them this week.

Thanks,
Jon

I use an alloy steel SHCS the 3/4 diameter is good to 44,180 pounds in single shear. The reason I used 3/4 was becasue of the rod ends not the bolts. I actually use a 1/2" bolt (19,635, single shear) in the front LCA mounting points. I used chromoly kevlar/teflon lined rod ends good to 28,081 pounds of force in the radial direction.