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Nick.V70 08-20-2010 05:26 PM

What did you end up going on BS?

The WidowMaker 08-21-2010 09:12 AM

4.25 bs, but im running a 1.5" pad for the z06 brakes which pushes the spokes out a little more.

Nick.V70 08-24-2010 09:46 AM

Thanks for the specs. Keep those pics coming!!:thumbsup:

The WidowMaker 08-24-2010 08:02 PM

well i got back from vegas and im still alive..... and married. we went to the rehab pool on sunday and some guy actually died while we were in the pool. we didnt find out until the next day, but another group of medic firefighters (one was a friend of my buddy) actually tried to help and were told to leave. one actually got thrown out because he was irate that nobody was performing cpr on this kid. pretty friggin crazy and there will be a HUGE lawsuit to come.

i took today off from the car, but tomorrow is day 11 of what is now 12 prep days. im going to take the frame down to the blasters on monday morning and try to have it in epoxy sometime in the afternoon. if all goes well i should have it all finished in paint by a week from saturday. stay tuned!!!

The WidowMaker 08-29-2010 08:35 PM

so i borrowed a buddys trailer and when i get off tomorrow morning the frame is going to the blasters!!!!!!! i plan to put a couple coats of epoxy on it tomorrow night. i work tuesday and then there will be a 3 day thrash to get it all done. the only part that wont get painted with the others is the rear housing. i figure i'll leave that for maybe saturday or sunday since theres a lot of prep left on it and theres still 33 suspension parts to paint on friday.

pics of primer tomorrow night!!!

i just hope the wind and paint cooperates...........

tones2SS 08-30-2010 06:54 AM

Very cool. Will be on the lookout.:_paranoid

The WidowMaker 08-30-2010 09:49 PM

a couple of epoxy pics for you guys. $250 to blast the frame and a few parts that i was too lazy to clean up again.

tomorrow i work, wed it gets filler and slick sand, thurs (burning some sick time) it gets sealer, paint and a nice satin clear. friday i will get the parts all painted up.

more pics to come!!!!

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...i/IMG_9312.jpg

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...i/IMG_9311.jpg

tones2SS 08-31-2010 06:42 AM

Looks great man!:cheers:

The WidowMaker 09-01-2010 07:39 PM

today i got all the filler work and the slick sand done. tomorrow i need to finish doing the final sanding and some pinhole work. tomorrow night it should be in fresh paint!!!!

tones2SS 09-02-2010 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The WidowMaker (Post 303957)
tomorrow night it should be in fresh paint!!!!

:woot: :cheers:
Very cool.

Swain 09-02-2010 10:39 AM

looks good.


:thumbsup:

The WidowMaker 09-02-2010 08:11 PM

Quote:

looks good.
sorry for lagging on the steering wheel. my mind should be a little clearer next week and i'll give you a call. how did the tires end up working out?

The WidowMaker 09-02-2010 08:24 PM

well its done. at least the frame. it turned out ok although i had hoped for a little better. i could have used another two coats of slicksand to smooth it out a little more, but like the wife keeps saying, nobody is going to see the damn thing. i did have two areas i really wanted to nail; the outside of the rails that are seen under the rockers of the body, and the top of the rails in the engine compartment. id give the sides an 8 and the engine compartment about a 6. there is one area where the seam show a little on the tops of both engine compartment rails. again, another coat of slicksand would have cured it but i was over it. it looks good. overall it was much better than last time. i spent a lot more time with the blocking this time.

after painting all the parts tomorrow im going to take a couple weeks off from the car. i plan to get all my bolts and anything else thats now gold zinc together and get everything done in either black cad or black zinc. i should have it back together by the end of the month.

here are a couple pics.

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...i/IMG_9398.jpg

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...i/IMG_9395.jpg

waynieZ 09-03-2010 07:40 AM

Thats going to look great in the car. Nice work.

tones2SS 09-03-2010 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 304243)
Thats going to look great in the car. Nice work.

^^What Wayne said!
Good job man.:cheers:

The WidowMaker 09-03-2010 08:56 PM

so most of the parts got painted today. i was hoping to get the rear housing done as well, but there was just no time to prep it. the plan is to prep it tomorrow and shoot it sunday morning. im also going to paint the alternator and the a/c pump. i had planned on shooting them the grey, but i may change my mind and shoot them black. we'll have to see.

the parts actually came out better than expected. i didnt do much in the way of prep, so you can tell if a parts sand cast. i'll call it character......... i did the same thing last time and was happy.

i can't wait to get all the bolts together, coated and then assemble it all again.

here are some pics. i stole the reds watts arms from penny, but really i needed something to make them visible and draw attention to the suspension. that is also the same red that is going on the outside of the car.

oh and as you can see in the last pic, i need to cut the shrubs and mow the friggin lawn! or so my wife tells me........


http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...i/IMG_9404.jpg

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...i/IMG_9416.jpg

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...i/IMG_9418.jpg

The WidowMaker 09-04-2010 08:30 PM

i got the rear cleaned up and sanded today, so it will get color and clear tomorrow. then comes a short break.

i was organizing pics and looked back to 3 years ago. the pics look familiar, but a lot has changed. can you say deja vu? i actually dont have many of those suspension pieces left either. most of it was new and then was sold............

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...i/IMG_1897.jpg

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...IMG_1888_1.jpg

tones2SS 09-05-2010 07:57 AM

Looking good man. Keep it up!:thumbsup: :cheers:

The WidowMaker 09-07-2010 09:45 AM

the rear got sprayed the other day and looks really good. the plan is to start getting the bolts together tomorrow and then send them out to have them coated sometime soon. hopefully i can start reassembly in the next couple weeks!!!

The WidowMaker 09-14-2010 05:43 PM

so i got all the bolts together and sent them off to Fabian (1badchevelle) to have them all coated black. i also sent the broken down johhny joints and all the rear brake brackets and everything together totaled 52lbs!!!! there wont be any gold zinc left when its done! i cant wait to get everything back and get it all reassembled. i also cant wait to find a bolt sitting somewhere that i forgot to send :-( ......

Tim

ScotI 09-14-2010 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The WidowMaker (Post 305835)
so i got all the bolts together and sent them off to Fabian (1badchevelle) to have them all coated black. i also sent the broken down johhny joints and all the rear brake brackets and everything together totaled 52lbs!!!! there wont be any gold zinc left when its done! i cant wait to get everything back and get it all reassembled. i also cant wait to find a bolt sitting somewhere that i forgot to send :-( ......

Tim

This would be my luck as well :) .

The WidowMaker 09-16-2010 08:28 PM

well it was my luck. i remembered the bolts for the tranny crossmember, but forgot the bolts to bolt the tranny to that crossmember.......... sweet.....

1badchevelle 09-16-2010 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The WidowMaker (Post 306224)
well it was my luck. i remembered the bolts for the tranny crossmember, but forgot the bolts to bolt the tranny to that crossmember.......... sweet.....

What size are they? If I have some I will get them out tomorrow.

The WidowMaker 09-17-2010 10:24 AM

Fabian, im actually at work and have no idea of the size. i'll wait to find more before i bug you over a few bolts. thanks though. youre awesome!!!

The WidowMaker 09-30-2010 08:01 PM

got a call today, and the bolts are going to be done on monday!!! it sucks that im working a 72 starting tomorrow and then im in a class m-f. i dont think the wife is going to be too happy if i sneak out to the garage to start putting it back together.

i also ordered up the power windows from mike at musclerodz. after hearing all the bad stories with the electric life stuff, i went with a set up from nu-relic. they are supposed to be way better and no need to open the door to get the window up that last 1/4". i bought them without the harness and i plan to get some billet switches and make my own harness. the plan is to put all the controls in the center console, but i need to figure out the layout with the vintage air controller, power door lock switches, window switches, start button, head unit, cup holders..........

im also debating on what to do about the radiator and it will be next months purchase. since the plan is to run the mast 416, their pcm controls the fans so there is no need for a special harness. therefore i can pick up a ron davis for 1060 or a prc for 800 both with dual 16" spal fans. 260 is a ton of money that can be used elsewhere, but i really want the welds that RD is famous for. everyone says that the prc are just as pretty, but i havent seen one in person.

if i still have any money left to my name, november will be stereo month. im going to get the amps, speakers and subs now, and wait on the head unit until the car is done. they seem to be changing really quickly and i dont want another regret. im undecided between the infinity kappas, infinity kappa perfects, alpine spx or focal vr's for the speakers. amps will most likely be the infinity kappa 1 and 4, and the 10" sub will match the speakers. i still need to do a bunch of research, but i do have time.

maybe i'll have a couple pictures tuesday night????

tones2SS 10-01-2010 09:17 AM

Very cool. Sucks you can't work on the car for a while, but at least you got some things that will keep you busy thinking about.:thumbsup:

The WidowMaker 10-07-2010 09:35 PM

just another small update. i got all the bolts and various parts back.... all i can say is wow. they look killer. i havent had time to sort through the 500+ pieces, but i hope to get them organized tomorrow night and start assembly on sunday. i included pics of the spc upper arms. i still need to install the bjs, but the black/grey combo is KILLER. i am almost thinking i now need to paint it black.......

i also got the speakers today. cartoys is giving 10% off already killer prices on this set. front and rear will both get the components, and i still need a couple amps and a 10" sub.

here are a few pics. more to come on sunday!!!!

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...i/IMG_9774.jpg

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...i/IMG_9777.jpg

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...i/IMG_9779.jpg

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...i/IMG_9782.jpg

Swain 10-08-2010 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The WidowMaker (Post 304187)
sorry for lagging on the steering wheel. my mind should be a little clearer next week and i'll give you a call. how did the tires end up working out?


The tires fit perfect but I decided to go back to 18's. I want the car to be low as possible. The steering wheel should be done soon just waiting on them to be cut.

tones2SS 10-08-2010 09:41 AM

Very cool.:thumbsup:

The WidowMaker 10-10-2010 08:25 PM

i got all the front suspension assembled today. i didnt finish until almost dark, so i'll get some better pics tomorrow. i still need to brush the tie rod connectors and figure out what to do with the sway bar heims to get rid of the gold zinc. i also need to feel out the red bump stops a little more. they look really out of place now, and if they dont tie together a little better as it comes back together i will replace them with some black ones.

the rear suspension should be mostly done tomorrow. im also still waiting to get the wheels back. i didnt like the color even though i gave them the code, so they are being stripped and reshot. i should be getting them back in a couple weeks.

i hope to have the frame under the body sometime in the next week. i need to work a couple areas including the raised fuel filler neck relief before i drop it on.

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...i/IMG_9881.jpg

tones2SS 10-11-2010 06:55 AM

That does look great. I agree with the color on the bump stops as well.

The WidowMaker 10-11-2010 11:11 AM

i have a feeling theyll have to go.......

i spent a few hours getting the rear control arms together late last night. i definately heated them up pretty good when welding. too bad i dont have 3/4 lh or 1" taps. tight, but they went together.

i should have it mostly back together tonight.

waynieZ 10-11-2010 03:14 PM

Nice work, it looks great. I think the black would look better too. Nice progress.

The WidowMaker 10-12-2010 09:00 PM

so its on the ground now. ive assembled this thing countless times, but i ran into some more snags that need to be worked out.

first, i hate the speedway adjusters. im going to be making some permanent spacers that register on the spring od, not the id. but since those arent done i reused the speedway ones and didnt tack them to the springs like i did last time. so, one doesnt want to sit flat and is hitting the top of the shock. not a huge deal for the shock since there isnt any weight, but it wont sit like its supposed to. so, now i need to research the new spacers and will be making those in the next few weeks.

next, i never fully assembled the rear brake kit from kore3 since the rotor wont sit inside my 15" wheels. this time, i decided to put the parking brake on even though i wasnt using the rotors. i started to read the directions and found that the 1.5" T bolts that currie supplied wont be long enough. so i need to use the 2" bolts from the kit, but, BIG but, there is only 1.5" between the axle tube flange and the lower control arm braket (because i narrowed so much) for one bolt per side. so, all i need to do is flip a bolt around and put it in from the outside. but (another but, its a trend), since the t-bolts head is the same width as the shank on two of its sides it fits in the correct location. a hex head bolts head is larger than that of the shank and needs to be ground down on one side. so i now have 3 bolts solved. the 4th that comes in backwards needs the nut ground. this just makes me uncomfortable because i will end up making the nut pretty thin. i have some ideas, i just need to work them out.

also, i spec'd a bearing from currie and ordered my kore3 kit at the same time. tobin sent the right kit, currie put in the wrong bearing. luckly for me, currie put in the set20 tapered bearing which seems to perform the best in a non floater application so it actually works out better. but it means that the recess that is milled on the kore 3 brackets for the set20 is not there because i wasnt supposed to be getting that bearing and there is about .090 too much preload space. tobin is taking care of me though. im shipping the brackets back and hes going to get them milled. i would have just swapped mine out, but they are now coated black.

finally, i need to take the axles back to currie to have them drill the access hole to allow me to get a socket on the axle retaining bolts. its a pain without the parking brake in place, and its supposed to be nearly impossible with it on. it seems that this should have been done in the first place since they knew i was running a drum in hat style parking brake.

here are some pics though. i havent heard back about the wheels, but i hope to have them soon.

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...i/IMG_9942.jpg
http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...i/IMG_9944.jpg
http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...i/IMG_9946.jpg
http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...i/IMG_9947.jpg
http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...i/IMG_9950.jpg
http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...i/IMG_9953.jpg

Tiger 10-13-2010 08:15 AM

You are doing some beautiful work there!

one Q. Are you using vband clamps on your exhaust?

tones2SS 10-13-2010 09:53 AM

It's always something man.:willy:
Good luck with the rest. You are doing a great job! Keep it up.:thumbsup: :cheers:

Nick.V70 10-13-2010 10:16 AM

Tim, whats up with a couple more front sway bars and billet frame mounts....:unibrow:

The WidowMaker 10-13-2010 11:13 PM

Quote:

Are you using vband clamps on your exhaust?
im using the stock edelbrock flange on the headers, but im using v-bands right before they go through the crossmember in the pictures.

Quote:

Tim, whats up with a couple more front sway bars and billet frame mounts....
ha, i'll get you some good pics and let you have the fun this time. if i were to do it over, i would use the stock mounting holes. dse pulled this off, i didnt. i have a feeling that their delrin bushing is either clearanced to let the mounting bolt spacing be tighter, or their bushing doesnt go all the way through allowing the bolt to be placed where it needs to be. i made some mounts for mine and welded them in the place of the factory holes. not a bolt in deal for most people.

7TSS 10-14-2010 11:18 AM

Wow!! That frame looks like a work of art. :hail: Nice color combination.

So do you have a color picked out for the body yet? Also, did you need to do any clearancing to fit the SPC uca's?

The WidowMaker 10-15-2010 05:07 PM

Quote:

So do you have a color picked out for the body yet? Also, did you need to do any clearancing to fit the SPC uca's?
body color is supposed to be mercedes mars red, but i'm loving the black/grey combo. the uppers needed the ears cut off the mount, and i actually cut some more off this time in addition to what i had done the last time. although it did clear it was close and im NOT!!! painting again.


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