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I could not have said it better myself! Excellent post! |
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Its a funny thing you should say that.The original model that was started at GMs Design north building was almost a very near copy of the 69.Charlie Lillard may remember for his car the MULE was used as an inspirational piece for the design model. In June our vice president ,Ed Welburn asked my boss Tom Peters to look an alternative to the design being done at our north building.Tom thought that the 69 is an icon all to itself.He thought the new design need to be an all fresh statement.Think about it.You can go out and buy a new repro shell and build a old new car.The new design had to be something fresh to todays proportions and a new design by its self.Try and look at the car with out thinking of the old.Ill bet ya Fords next Mustang wont be retro!!!!! I have not seen the challenger.But from what people have told me its a very large and bulky car.The camaro is a much smaller and better proportion car.Isnt this what people like us have always wanted,a smaller bodied car with a big engine.Long live the pony car. Chris |
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::sigh:: If only... :(
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Both of those are very cool.
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Chris, you guys did an awesome job. When I first saw it, my gut reaction was that I liked it a lot but it didn't rock my world. However, now I find that the more l look at it the more I love it. It really is everything I had hoped for. It's aggressive, oozes testosterone, has many design cues from the 1st Gens, and looks like it's going 100mph sitting still.
The only part that concerns me is how it will look with realistic sized wheels, we all know it's not going to roll on 22's. I can see 18's or perhaps 19's like the C6, but I doubt the General will go with anything bigger. On a side note, the Buick Enclave is fantastic. I'd definitely put the family in that! |
Scott, Thank for the good words.The wheel size is always a tough one.When you have really no borders you look for the largest wheel you can apply to a design.For sure on a concept car.
The design was suposed to be done in 3 weeks,turned out to be 4.Some of the ideas could have spent more time under refinment.The original model had been working for months.I believe 9.Maybe less. During our crash and burn month we kept a song playing on the radio in the basement.A song Groove Armada called "I see you baby" this became our theme song for the car. Must say I had a blast during this project.Lots of stress.But the best part was the great team of people that I was able to work with. Sang Yup Steve K Vlad S Greg S Steve K Roman L Brian N Pam B Jerry P Andy C Ray H But most of all Tom Peters.What a fun man to work with.When he walked in the room the energy level rose 3 notches.He is very inspiring and appreciates the efforts made. Oh and the Buick.......Aint it great!! I also could see my family in one of those. :thumbsup: Chris |
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Do me a favor and buy those guys a beer for me. Just send me the bill and I will pay for it. What an awesome job you guys did. Really *standing ovation in progrss*. I have been saying on bulletin boards everywhere that GM needed to honor the legacy that was Camaro if they ever brought the car back, and IMHO you and your team did just that. I have opened a savings account for my next new GM car, and I can't wait to see this in the showrooms. Give yourself a nice pat on the back and git-r-done! :) |
You have to add me to the list of people who love it!!
[daydream] Since that song was played in the design room so much maybe i will burn it and put it in the CD player when I first drive off of the lot in my new Camaro [/daydream] |
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Kris, we need more pics :drool: . http://www.officialbaldwinmotion.com..._camaro_fp.jpg David |
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I think the concept is 70% +/- there. People mod, pro-tour, race, collect, enjoy 69 camaros for the same reason they don't mod, pro-tour, race, collect, enjoy pintos. (apology in advance to whomever just bolted 22s to your pinto) 69 body style flat out rocked! These forums clearly demonstrate that. That being said, I do believe the new Camaro should be a "fresh" statement of THE 69. Major gripes with me: Take the beakiness out of the nose, PLEASE nice round headlights, from the most foward tip of the hood back to behind the rear wheels I think looks very right, :thumbsup: but the back end needs some serious tuning IE: shape and tailights. Beegs |
I will say the same thing here as I have said everywhere else about the new Camaro. I dont like it. I think if they would have designed it more retro like the 69 Camaro I would have loved it. I personally think a 2002 Ram air Trans am looks better. I would take the new Challenger over the new Camaro in a heart beat. :P
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I think the overwhelming response to it has been positive. Wagoner mentioned that in his address to all the employees today. He specifically pointed to the Camaro concept as in indicator of the progress GM has made in historic design.
It will see production in the fall of '08. ;) |
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Not according to what I saw.....
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Rockdogz...sorry about that. I was just throwing out a prediction. That's not factual.
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My gut feeling is they will build it. The company needs "must have" cars and that is definitely a "must have" product. But like Lutz says...the numbers have to work.
They'll find a way. .......I hope. :( |
Gotta say the hype is great be better if we acyually had a car here! and hopefully they dont fall into the mustang trap like them Ford has such a demand now you there not making them fast enough at least the GT's personally i'll take the Camaro anyday awesome car great looks love the quarter panels etc great looking ride
"Ill take mine Black with a nice big set of Billets" thanks you sold |
I hope they don't build it... I've promised myself I'd never have to make car payments, and I'm not sure I have the willpower to stop myself from signing on the dotted line :unibrow:
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