yeah man that looks killer already. nice to get rid of that mystery rattling too!

Thanks Scott, we may need to talk subframes down the road here. The 245's look like pizza cutters on the front now.

No problem, I am no expert by any means. But I had to weigh a few decisions which is alot different on a finished running painted car.

I think the biggest improvements will be grip from the R-compound tires and ride quality with the 4-link.

Thanks Steve, always loved your car. Glad to have joined club Fikse :lol:

Lol Mike, for those that don't know Mike helped me do alot of work on the car like installing the motor/trans and do the heads/intake swap on the motor. Mike you know me quite well and I will try my best to roast the 335's in 2nd gear. But I'm eyeing Steve Rupp's 460 RHS stroker motor in the future. I'm done with power adders, 720 hp NA is where it's at. :_paranoid

Thanks Payton, which reminds me. Let's see some updates on your mini-tub??

Thanks Jay, for your inspiration. For posting pics of your badass '69 and helping me decide on the wheels. And for all your help checking backspacing on the wheels like a million times :lol: Your update threads are some of my favorites, so please keep us posted. :thumbsup:

Thanks Nick.

Thanks for the suggestions Ryan. The noise was driving me insane. Luckily I now have a rebuilt stage II T56 tranny that I didn't really need. :lol:

Thanks Jay. Keep us posted on your wifes car build :D

Thanks, and hey I really like your wheels too :thumbsup:

Lol, you know me too well Chris. First thing I thought of when I saw the pics was: the ass end is waaaay too high. Gotta slam that thing and tuck the rubber. Aka Orion Camaro. I've already told Bill to do it. :lol:

I'll hit up Nick L and see if he wants to re-feature it now :lol: He'll probably tell me to pound sand :lol:

Thanks Tony, one day I'll make it down to that Goodguys Puyalip show to meet you clowns :unibrow:

Thanks Flash. Like I said, real happy that issue was figured out. It drove me insane. :yes:

Ryan, The updates look great. I would like to check out the car one day the shop you have it at is only 10 minutes from me.

No Problem, it's only going to be there maybe 1 more week. So you better talk to Bill or visit his shop.

new wheels look killer ryan!
i also said the same thing in my head right when i saw the pics " needs to be back down to the old height asap" lol

Nothing 10 minutes and a little elbow grease won't fix.

I guess there will be grease on Bill's elbows not mine. :_paranoid

Well Bill adjusted the height, says this is as low as it can go without the suspension binding. The springs still need to settle. They are 175 lb springs. Have to say I'm a little disappointed, I wanted the rear to sit lower than this but hoping once it settles it will? Any ideas or thoughts are welcome.

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What components of the suspension binding is he refering to?

I agree the rear is a little high, is compouned by the front being a little low?My car is about .75-1" high in the rear...........I can definitely relate to the dissatisfaction.

Cannon Racecraft should be able to make custom springs if coil bind is the part of the issue. http://www.cannonracecraft.com/ if the shock length/travel will accept it.

Hopefully it's not linkage geometry.

He says it's the linkage bar geometry that will bind. Going to a shorter shock or spring would create this.

Looking at Todd's G-bar his car is sitting lower than this, but the G-link is a little different.

I'm going to wait and let the springs settle and then see how it sits. Should have it back this week.

Frank told me this kit could be dropped quite low, but maybe he wasn't exactly correct. I'd like it as low as the DSE setups most guys run.

Hmmmmm... I can't tell from the photos, are the coil over mounts bolted in at the lowest position? The pinion angle will also effect the ride height. As the pinion is pointed down, it naturally jacks the rear end up. Your shocks should bottom out before any type of binding happens. It wil settle, not enough. Is all the weight in the car?

Hey Todd, weight is in the car. Yes the shocks are in the lowest position. I just spoke to Bill. He's going to rebuild the upper shock cross member to raise the shock and lower the car more. I'm picky about the stance. This kind of sucks had I known I would have gone with the DSE kit but at least it will get the car sitting where I want it.

Hope it all works out for you Ryan. Good luck.:thumbsup:

No argument here, the stance has to be right! Good luck. :thumbsup:

I agree, stance is a big deal. Looks to need to come down 1". What is the measurment from the ground to the body crease in line with the axle?(Guessing 25.75) I'd wait for Frank, something is not right.

Oh everything will be fine, it's only going to cost a little more in labour. Come this far what's a little more :lol:

Remember Todd the G-link is a slightly different kit than your G-bar. The shocks sit more upright rather than canted inwards.

I realize that, but that doesn't mean it can't be engineered for the same ride height. I told you to go with DSE. :D

Lol yeah I know. Frank sold me on the whole easy install deal, stock trunk floor. I guess the problem is that the shock cross member sits under the trunk floor and then lowers the whole shock? I think the member Barazza (sp?) said this wasn't correct theory but whatever, I am no suspension engineer. Just want it to have the stance Chris was talking about :lol:

If the linkage bar geometry would bind by going to a shorter shock/spring wouldn't it still bind by raising the upper mount? I'm interested to see how this plays out b/c i was actually going to order my g-link today until i saw your update.

In theory that does sound right Kyle, I'm leaving this to Bill at the shop to figure out.

If its a unequal 4 link with spherical rod ends what exactly is binding? If you removed the springs the car should sit right on the top of the shock, can it?

I'm really curious also as I have one on the floor waiting for my car to come back from the bodyshop.

By the way, sweet car!

Those wheels take the car to another level. Looks great :thumbsup:

older subject but the noise you speak off, is that a rattling sound out of the t56 shifter, because I get some noise out of my shifter and if the knob is a bit loose it really starts to rattle.
for me I also suspect the clutch may be slipping under accelaration because I get the noise on 5th or 6th gear when I punch it..
Im also running a spec clutch everytime I let off the clutch I get an anoying long squeak during engagement and during down shift. spoke to the spec clutch people at the sema booth they insisted it was normal and they call it a bark ( noise ) ,it started doing it more as the clucth broke in.

well I tell you what Ill never use spec again. I dont want my clutch to bark, it feels like im driving a clunker. the noise is loud and embarrasing ,
just wondering if it may be same noise

by the way those rear tires look sick I love that foot print , this is the first time I see them, sorry to hear about your stance Im sure youll get it right

Guys, so Bill ended up installing a shorter spring. Car is sitting alot lower now and the only problem he can see is the top of the diff pumpkin hitting the trunk floor as I have about 1.5" of travel. The new springs are 200 lb.

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Franky, the noise ended up being the shifter hitting the trans tunnel shifter hole opening. Bill clearanced it a bit and now the mystery noise is gone.

1.5" sounds minimal, how much travel does a DSE Quad or AME 3 Link have?

The car looks like it could be .25-.5" low now, full tank of fuel in the pic?

If you're going to track day the car, bottoming under hard corner loads could create traction/control issues at inopportune times. :(

Yeah, will have to see it in person and may raise it up now. Too high, too low lol I've got issues :lol:

Patience, you know what you want. You'll get there, the secret in times like this is not making short-term compromises that you'll regret in the future. :thumbsup:

Given that you have the G-link you should be able to raise the lower shock mounting to get the ride height where you want it since there are a few holes available to you.

I think it looked good before, but then again, my car sits high in the rear so what do I know...When I installed the hyperco springs from Tyler's 68 (which sat too high in his car) mine looked like it had a dump in its pants.

Don't feel bad, I'd be the EXACT same way. Gotta get the stance right.:yes:
Good luck Ryan.:cheers:

Jeff, Bill said the shocks were bolted in the lowest positions before, now with the shorter spring he moved thier mounting positions up.

Tones, I don't feel bad at all. Stance is very important to me as stupid as it sounds. I did the same with my leafs. They were adjusted a few times before we got them "right"

Ryan it's looking great! :thumbsup:
You shouldn't have a hard time with the stance...just show Bill a pic of Red Devil w/ the Fikse's on it and tell him to make your car sit like Mark's....:D

You're going to need around 2.25-2.5" of bump. That would've been the benefit of raising the shock mount, more bump travel at a lower ride height. However, your pinion housing will hit the tunnel before the pumpkin hits the trunk. My car is 24.75 to the crease on the quarter. I can lower mine to around 24.5 but I'd rather have a little extra to play with on the race track. 24.75 gives me 2.5 inches of bump travel and the pinion is about a pinky away from the tunnel at full compression. I'd start at 2" of shock travel and keep an eye on the o rings.

Thanks Anthony, well that's what I tried to do. Unfortunately it's not as simple as that since the G-link doesn't have the clearance to go super low without running into this problem. Bill's going to test drive the car today and see how it is at the current height, if there's an issue he will raise it back up.

Thanks for the measurments Todd, I'll check the numbers once I get it back which should be today.

also make sure your spring is not
 

too short or it will coil bind on compression.

Looking good on the ground

Ryan, what happened with it all, now have G link in hand!!!

Hey Steve, car is done and at home. The weather has been gross here for the last couple of weeks so I haven't had a chance to clean the car up and shoot some photos.

The first impression of the drive was that the car rode really well. Nicer than with the leafs for sure. I only drove it a short distance but never really tried any spirited driving as I still have to break in the new rear, new tranny and new clutch. The one thing I did notice is how sticky the tires are. They are kicking up gravel and road grime everywhere. And this was on a pretty cold day. So I'm sure once they warm up they will stick like crazy.

There is a local cruise here on the 27th and there will be a few nice cars out. So I'll get a better impression of everything on that day. And as soon as I clean it up I'll post some pics of the completed project for now :unibrow:

and the adjustablility, issues, which shocks did you get??

All I know is Radical Rides installed a shorter spring and my travel is now less than the standard kit springs. They may even settle and I'll have to raise it back up. I'll keep you guys posted.

Finally got a nice day, took the car to work. Sorry for the crappy point and shoot pics and the car is filthy. Going to detail it up this weekend.

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