Besides the upper control arm mounts and welding the seams is there anything else you are doing with the stock sub?

I'm just about to embark on swapping my stock sub for another stock one I sourced so any hints or ideas are appreciated.:thankyou:

I really appreciate what you are doing with this Camaro with vintage TA tricks paying homage as opposed to just :G-Dub: and waiting for the latest and greatest mail order package etc...

:peepwall: Not that there is anything wrong with that approach...:whistling:

Just a quick image copy/paste out of admiration...http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...ps0b576baf.jpg

My car was originally gold so the Smokey theme has always had an appeal to me besides the obvious nod to the icon himself. Yours is going to be the ultimate with that motor.

This is lighting a little fire under me as I have a spare sub and control arms sitting in the garage.

Dave what's the deal posting this silly mini pic?
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My little brain and old eyes are not capable of extracting details..............:bitchslap: :D

Rich - Did you match the gauge of the control arm for the reinforcing stock?

Pre-shape the plates to fit the arm or tack and clamp as you go?

Upper mounts were cut and lowered 3/4" and moved .25-.5" rearward?

Stock height upper ball-joint?

You started this thread right after I joined Lat-g and I'll never forget the wow factor impression I got from that pic of your motor.......and it still does. It's awesome to see this car taking shape and I absolutely love the direction you're going with it. :thumbsup:

Hey man it's not cool to shoot the messenger. I just post what is sent to me. :action-smiley-027:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...hoto_002-2.jpg

:peepwall: I'm sorry! Didn't know if you were the publisher or photog. :sieg:

Rich, one of these days could you send your assistant a bigger pic of the upper arm mount? If Rob's your photog, never mind. :D

:D I'll try to remember to get some better pics when I'm down there next weekend.

Just imagine the sweet photos combining Rich's image quality and Rob's lighting techniques. :bitchslap:

Thanks! :thumbsup:

Uh, that could re-write the definition of abstract. :D

incoming
 

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Record breaking response time!! :thankyou:

I cut the template from construction paper, went to the scrap yard and found some 10 gauge. Plasma cut the piece a little big, tacked, clamped, and bent. Hit it with the trusty 4 1/2 inch grinder, then filed flat. Mocked the bushings, figured out the grease zerk location then welded them in. You could make them lighter by cutting holes, but I'm trying to achieve a period correct look. The uppers are getting a strap on the underside. All this and the iron headed crossram weighs a mint, so I'm hoping to save weight with aluminum brake caliper and hats.
The upper mount is technically a G mod and moved back 3/4 inch more. I built a template to hold the points after cutting everything free. I took alot of measurements before execution.
:cheers:

What wheel-tire combo are you going with? Leafs for the rear as well?

Thanks Rich, really appreciate it. :thumbsup:

Does the shock mount remain at the original "height"?

Wheels are old torque thrust d, 15x7 Chevy pattern, and 15x8 1/2 ford pattern. The tires for street will be Goodyear Billboard's, like the Cobra guys run. They are basically a wet traction race tire. I love the big paint markings.
Rear suspension is still a mystery, I have a few options still. This is where the Pro Touring will be induced. Maybe a carbon fiber torque arm with a watts link? Maybe fiberglass leaf springs. I do know it is a nine inch rear I just picked up with a 4:10 Detroit locker. Also scored a brand new in box Herb Adams sway bar.:)

The shock mount gets a shave and a tap into place. Probably about 3/8 down. Don't cut from frame. Just the top.:)

Thanks for posting tha pic. My car will have that paint scheme and look, I did not bulge the fenders because its alot of work and I don't have much free time, as you can see how long it has taken to get here. I owe the Subframe engineering to Dave Pozzi, I picked his brain for days before I made a cut. He would gladly share with you aswell I'm sure. The only thing left to do is reinforce the sway bar mount on the frame itself. Fixing the bumpsteer is another big part of the equation, I will post that mod after its done. Thanks for the interest.:D

You are very welcome.:D

I thought I detected a subtle flare to the #13 '68 in that pic but wasn't sure. The shot I am pasting below really looks to me like the front is sloped more than stock but it might be an illusion of the two-tone or something. See how the top of the headlight appears to be below or at the top of the wheelwell? I never realized it before but as I wrote this I went and measured my '68 (attached garage:rolleyes: ) and there is only about an inch difference.

Yes, David Pozzi has made vast contributions to this game and if I am ever fortunate enough to shake his hand I will humbly offer him a cold beverage of his choice. He has responded to a few messages of mine over the years when I have waited for time, money and know-how to align in my favor. Funny how difficult it is for me to corral all three!

Reinforcing the swaybar does not sound like a bad idea and will certainly be added to my meager plan... so, :thankyou:

Here is another view:
http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp-conte...13_0kTn_28.jpg

Below in Red is a link to the article I nabbed them from which you may have seen or might appreciate if you haven't.

The Smokey clone is driven by Christi Edelbrock of the Edelbrock performance parts family according to the caption about 3/4ths of the page down.

Speedhunters: Trans Am Lives

I have not been able to figure out the cuts on the front end, that is a mystery that Mike Eddy knows, and I respect it a secret. Christi and Mike were kind enough to let me and a good friend have an hour and a half with the car as Mike gave us the tour of all the cool things done to it. We got a lot of pics and video. I study them WEEKLY! I admit I am obsessed. I can't have the real one so build one close to it. Call it a Tribute as I admire the pure awesomness of a brilliant mind applied to the most bitchen muscle car on the planet!:thumbsup:

What are you doing for spindles, steering arms and fixing bump steer. I was going to use 1/2" taller upper and lower ball joints and Mark from SC&C told me the taller lower balljoint would make the bump steer worse.

Smokey Yunick was one of the best there was. I got to meet him a few times here in Sacramento and the Infield at Charlotte Motor Speedway at a Cup Race

The spindles will be CPP forged, stock length, 2 inch drop. I will use their aluminum hub aswell. Wilwood SL4 calipers, 11.75x 1 1/4 rotors, and aluminum hats. Stock fast ratio steering arms (69 Camaro).
Yes, using these joints and the G mod apparently hurt bumpsteer (Pozzi website has info). I will be modifying the centerlink by changing the inner tie rod mounting position. This has been done for years apparently, as it was done by Smokey back in 1967 on his first Camaro. After the alignment is given and ride height is determined, I will do a bumpsteer check and then determine where that position will be. Lotsa work again, but well worth it.
That's awesome you got to meet him, that must have been cool.:)

Rich asked me to post this pic of the Smokey bumpsteer correction from Hot Rod December 1967.

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Saw this on Pozzi's site


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That is one way of gettin the job done. They do make 1/2 inch taller tie rod ends now. Same effect. You have to bump the car to get the real numbers. No springs, no shocks, no sway bar, just hubs and wheels. Pozzi was telling me he has seen over 1/2 " of toe change with some set ups. This is a huge problem with the stock engineering. Fixing the problem will change the whole dynamics of feedback the car will give. We have like 4 inches of travel. Can you imagine what those dudes do with those off road race trucks! :wow:

Check out the boxed arm and bolted lower ball joint. Some crazy stuff there!

Interested in your steering link mod process.

Modified steering links aren't available due to DOT regulations and liability??

Love this build
 

I'm loving this build. I got my 67 from a good friend whose passed away. He loved Smokey and used to tell me tons of stories about him. When I bought the car from him, I also got a pair of holley 780's that went on the. I have really wanted to build a dual carb motor to put in that car for a while with those carbs. Great to see someone else likes that as well.

Unfortunately everything we do is considered for " Racing" purposes only. But there is always someone who blows it for everyone! Modified steering is out there, been available for years. Just trying to do it on my own. :)

:thankyou:

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Been blastin'? I have a freshly blasted stock sub in my garage right now too. Dropped off Wed and picked up Thursday. Factory welds are hideous!!:welder:

Those header primaries are massive looking! Pretty cool picture:thumbsup:

Great photo! :thumbsup:

She lives!
 

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A cross-ram 302 with a 2,000 rpm idle? Now we're talkin'!

I meant to bump the specs since it's been 5 years since posted. :)

355" sbc
10.5:1 JE pistons
Scat 6" rods
Isky solid lifter Z-85 cam
Crossram intake with (2) 390cfm Holley carbs
Ported angle-plug Camel Back heads
Hooker Super Comp 2" primary headers

If only we could have that kind of throttle response with a flywheel, clutch and transmission attached (or flexplate, torque converter & trans)!!

Crossram
 

I have not previously seen this thread. Awesome build! I too love the Crossram and you might be interested in the setup I installed this year, combining the look and performance of the Crossram with benefits of EFI. I suppose I should put details of my setup on this site one day.............

Gary

That's awesome! I've had an Offenhauser cross ram sitting on the shelf for years waiting to try something like this. I think the current wave of self-contained TBI setups are ideal for this.

That's awesome! I've had an Offenhauser cross ram sitting on the shelf for years waiting to try something like this. I think the current wave of self-contained TBI setups are ideal for this.

Yes you should. :thumbsup:

Garymac69, please, please, please share! We wouldn't be upset if we could hear it making some noises either. :lol:

:Tomcat: :Tomcat: That's dope!