Well done James and Rodger, on the tech and keeping use all informed on some of the decision go into the building of a car to compete at the highest levels. Also to all partys for keeping civil and informative :cheers:

Mr. Shipka.... Well done.

I know the back and forth sometimes can be frustrating for the two parties trying to make the point, but on this website, it is often educational for the rest of us.

I followed the original OLC and the trailer for a few miles on the road after watching it run at Barbers in Alabama and it was cool to see the car in vivo. This one looks like it is going to be an extension of what you learned from the first build.

The evolution of the original OLC is certainly weighing on the OLC2 build. Likewise the work that we've done to this point on 2 is largely responsible for the OLC.R modifications that are underway now. The big difference is that the OLC was never intended to be a race car although as time has progressed it has straddled the line a bit more than I anticipated at first. That being said, there are events or circumstances that I am simply not comfortable running with the OLC regardless of its evolution. I would really like to run the Spectre 341 event but I won't without a full cage. I would really like to compete in the Targa, and the Chihuahua, and and and... but I can't without a full cage. And to reaffirm my thinking I urge anyone who has not seen Jeremy Foley's crash on Sunday to take a look and think about the unthinkable.

2 will be an extention, and an evolution, and it will be a step over that line...

I thought I might post up a small update on the progress of the rollcage in James Shipka's car.

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If 1 picture says a 1000 words, This should be enough. Broc has done an awesome job on the rollcage in this car.

That will be one rigid car!


--Eric

I hope this (Roll Cage) design has been aproved by SLO-Z/28.I would hate to see all that hard work go too waste.:willy:

We are still on stand by waiting for the official word as to whether we can proceed forward as we speak. Fingers crossed.:D :D :D

:rofl: :thumbsup:

Come on guys play nice :cool:


Ok Scott that was funny :D

Oh and I approve of this roll cage!! :lol: :unibrow:

Great work, and after that crash you can definitely see the need for the rules.

Killer work guys!:thumbsup:

Thanks Guys, Broc has done a great job on James' car. We just have to figure how to weld around each and every tube on the rollcage. It will be tight on some parts but I think we have a solid plan to get it handled. We will be finishing the other parts of bars we have to do and then starting making the gussets.

Rodger

Rodger,If you are careful you can bend a 6011 welding rod right on the end so it's easy to reach those tight spots.About 2 inchs from the end bend the tip of the rod at 45 degree angle.And Bazinga,tight corner welding made easy.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Continued progress on the door bars in James's car.

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The tube fit on this project is perfect.

Question, should you not first weld the underlying tube before welding the overlaying tube in your triple connection? I have done lots of tube work on vintage airplanes and never left any part of a tube unwelded.

We want to build all the bars and gussets first. Then the cage will have get slide forward to get it entirely welded around each tube. Don't worry we have it handled. :D :D

why so much safety ...real drivers have no cage ,wear no seat belts lol

signed...
the guy that thought he was superman


great work!!!

This is the area I am speaking of.

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I can see it is all tacked and would be full welded at a future point once full built, just did not know how far you would disassemble to fully welded.:thumbsup:

I understand what you asking and we will remove that tube when we know the customer likes everything and fully weld that seam. We have it handled. I think

No problem, I understand the direction, just observing the progress and enjoying the show. Thanks for clarifying. :thumbsup:

Sweet build I should start one for my build

Nice, alway wanting to see cool purpose-built cars.
Will there be any update on the OLC? Been seeing a lot of progress on FB,but nothing on the forums.

Rodger and Broc have been doing a great job on the cage for the OLC2. I was worried about the FIA bar at the front but the NASA Rally Sport tech director gave us some good advice and I think that it came out really well. There are a few bars left to go - roof, harness, and footwell - and then the taco gussets and some miscellaneous support bars and then we should be ready to weld everything up.

I've been mulling over doing an update thread for the OLC but I figured that everyone probably needed a break from the '67 for a while so I've kept the changes pretty quiet. It's a few weeks from being back on the ground but I'm really happy with what Dick and the guys at Best of Show have been able to do. OLC.R should be on the track in a month or two...

Cheers

James

Most full custom cages get mocked up and tacked into place then a weld order gets established before it is all fully welded. It takes a lot of planning for a cages system especially as elaborate as this one. If not done right will make more work and wasted tubing later. If done properly some sections can be removed or disconnected from the chassis to be welded.

Looking forward to seeing more of the RS.R Camaro. I've said it before, but you guys are definitely pushing the envelope.

As for the OLC, I'm looking forward to the day that is back on the road too. It isn't the lightest car on earth, and I'm tired of being enlisted to help push it around. I would comment about how it is looking, but I'm not Dick or Jon :lol:

Matt

Uh, James...:)

re: OLC :ttiwop:

I don't want to mess up this thread with pics of the other car. Maybe I'll try to get something together this weekend or next.

I was going to hint at a couple of things but to be honest... the changes are probably not as minor as I make them out to be.

Fixed it for ya! :lol:

James, do a phase two stand alone thread like Steve-O did w Penny. As cool as OLC is will be a fun read :lateral:

In all fairness... One piece at a time the changes seem relatively minor but I have to admit that as a whole it seems like a lot more. I'll try to start a thread soon.

Ron, I have spy photos. When we meet up later this week, we can discuss what they might be worth.

Matt

Name your price Matt...:D

I really like this project. James please do start a thread on the '67 as many of us would like to see updates. I don't think anyone is tired of that car:thumbsup:

dam nice roger!

your fabricator is doing a great job!

Jason

Holly molly! I saw a spy photo today.... Man James, you under estimate what is going on with OLC1. It is amazing how people keep stepping it up. The new, is lighter; better contact patch; better aero..... and much more to the point. Less show and more go. I just love what things have become over the last few years. These are the kind of things I would dream about as a kid.

"What if you could build.....?" And it's happening right if front of all of us.

:cheers:

Some more pics.

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A 69 camaro with COOL vent windows. :D :D

I'm wondering how much room there will be between that last vertical door bar & the steering wheel, it looks close. How about access to window cranks & door latch?

Clearance between the FIA bar and the steering wheel should not be an issue. The rules allow for a maximum 20º bend "out" to allow for increased clearance (which we have taken advantage of) and the steering wheel will be behind that bar. I took some measurements in the '68 and if the wheel was in the stock position there should have been about 4" of clearance +/-. As it sits now the down bar should be tucked right against the dash (the dash might even have to be clearanced a bit) which should keep it comfortably safe.

Dash - referencing the different holes in the door -
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FIA bar - should be right there...
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Windows might have to go power... door latches may have to be tweaked...

That FIA bar is as far out as the rules allow. It might even be 20.5 degrees if it did not spring back as much as normal. We pushed that to the limit. The FIA bar Will be right in front of the dash face. Yeah window cranks are not an option and door latches can be easily moved. These rules are super specific and they are only concern about one thing driver safety.