I got a set of car key that didn't go to anything :lol:

Just curious, are you keeping the Getrag? I don't know if you've taken measurements, but I was curious as to how far back the shifter would end up.

Matt

We are keeping the Getrag Matt.. The shifter is pretty far back & sits high..
But like that about the shifter position.. & can be modified pretty easy.. The assy track system will be a nightmare though.. The 5.0 motor is huge & have to fit it between some pretty narrow frame rails.. but we already have a plan on how to make it work.. I think!

Got our Dynatech headers today.. Got the driver side in today.. the pass side will not be that easy.. Cut up up a brand new set of headers!

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Just curious, are you keeping the Getrag? I don't know if you've taken measurements, but I was curious as to how far back the shifter would end up.

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Right know I don't know if I'm going to keep the TR6060. I have a T56 that needs to be rebuilt lying around as well. with the TR6060, or Getrag, I think I would need a different output shaft to fit a traditional slip yoke. Additionally, the shifter is pretty far back and if I set the engine back I'd probably have to drive from the back seat.

Hell, right now my Mustang is on the back burner because there is no way I could fit the 5.4 supercharged DOHC engine with both conventional power steering and A/C on the accessory drive. The increased deck height, plus supercharger makes everything just a little too much bigger than the 5.0s, which are a tight fit. Given that the engine was my starting point, (and cost more than the car) I decided to just build another car around the engine.

Anyway, this thread is about your/your customer's car so I won't digress beyond tech talk of what might/might not work.

Matt

Very nice Cris. That engine does look huge. Those headers are pretty sweet looking. Good luck with the passenger's side!

The driveshaft is easy for the Getrag Matt.. I will be get one built here pretty soon & show you what it will be looking like.. Basically what we are doing is trying to build as much of the car around drivetrain & suspension..

Here is a supercharged 5.4 we have been messing around with this week.. Thanks for the info Matt!

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It is fighting me Tony...

Cris...... Can I tell ya sumthin? :D

At least you don't have to work the headers around changing spark plugs!! Think of the bright side!


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I'm more than sure you guys will get it. Good luck!:thumbsup:

PLEASE POST MORE ON THIS!!!!!

Good thing you reminded me about the spark plugs.. Where the hell are they! :D

We got her done Tony with few changes!

Car left yesterday.. Sorry.. when it comes back I will get some more pics

Not that the 5.4s really need more power the way they pull off of idle, but do you know how much the Vortech Twin Screw made on it? Did you install it, by chance?

Matt

The install was done in house by my buddy Ray McClelland from FTK.. Very well know in the Ford world for tuning! 2007 Shelby Mustang is what it is in.. it still needs to be tuned on the chassis dyno .. but estimated to put out about over 700hp to the rear wheels..
Has cylinder work & custom ground cam shaft.. I will get the dyno results later...

Ray supports my LS tunes here @ the shop.. & when I got the opportunity to do a this Mustang.. We went for the 5.0 motor cause Ray will handle the stand alone running of the motor & trans..

hows the car coming along?

Matt

Matt- No updates yet... I got finish the Camaro first before I jump back on this one.. Goal is to have this one done for SEMA 2012..

Update! Now that the Camaro is pretty close to finishing.. We have been working on the Mustang... We cut out the factory rocker panels & built a custom set by bending, rolling & welding a set out of .120 1018 plate..
Working on getting them fit & welded so we can start the firewall fabrication ..


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Rockers out of .120 plate ? That seems a little overkill !

Not too me when it is the main chassis structure of the car! When I start building the floors & firewall it will make more sense on why we built our rocker panels the way we did..

A lot of builders do this to stiffen up the car. Some even build all the way up the "A" & "B" Pillar.

The Marlboro Syclone that I owned "A" & "B" Pillar were done this way for the Targa Top conversion. Also the Windsheild post was filled with Liquid Steel or something similar.

Cris I see something in post #94 we need to talk :D Have some other news I'll be talking to you today....

Looking forward to the call Mario! Hope your guys had a safe trip home & thank you for delivering my engines..

Glad to see you guys back on this project! Looking really good!


Chris,

Let me know if you need any coyote parts. got a few things that i will not be using

We got changes going on this Mustang... My blank canvas idea with a full custom chassis & floors had to change.. The owner wants to keep it a bit more simple since it will be his son's first car.. but these changes are not a bad thing.. cause I had to give up something to get something new.. those changes will come later when I have a design layout... The structure will still be stiffened up & the floor mated pretty decent to the new rockers we fabricated.. The Coyote motor is a challenge with the transmission.. Their was talk today about a LS motor.. but was able to keep the motor we started with..

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Are you keeping the universal DSE front clip in the design?
Thanks, Wes

Let's just say I will be making a few changes to it.. to fit the application a bit better..

Go LS! I can think of someone that might want the Coyote, if it was a good deal :lol:

Matt

Well Matt! it is offical.. LS3 with T56 transmission is gonna be the offical power plant for the 70 Stang... Things just alot easier for us! The owner just really likes LS engines but likes the 70 Mustang.. I will try to make the union of both something a little special :D

So, I got a 2011 Coyote with manual transmission up for sale with only 2k miles on it..

Cris... Is it that much trouble putting that Ford motor in??

Mario- It has its challenges to put it in their.. But every time I call the owner & tell him that I have to modify this & that to get it to fit.. His statement is .. A LS engine would be easier & keep cost down.. The plan is to set the LS engine & trans in right now & if the Coyote is still around I will try to fit in their on my account just to see what it takes to make it work..

The motor is wide everywhere.. The alternator is a problem.. it hits the stub.. The power steering pump mounting location with A/C compressor.. Though Vintage Air just is fixing on releasing a new bracket assembly for the Coyote..

The LS engine is easy for us because we have a bunch of parts lying around here.. Track systems, Intakes, Mock up engines & etc..

I hate the idea of an LS in a Ford. Those things are in everything. But there is a reason. What was Ford thinking going with such a large engine? I think the Coyote even out does the Boss 429 when it comes to space requirements. They try to market it as a motor for your project but there arent many cars out there that dont require a complete custom front end to make the thing fit.

Cris, if you haven't seen this finished build already, these guys swapped a Coyote into the smaller 66 'Stang.

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Im familiar with it. Even with the Heidts Mustang II front end he still had to modify the headers. It does look impressive sitting there though. Same with the Pegasus Mustang. The 5.0 looks massive. They started with a frame and motor and built the car around it.

Big motor for only 302 CI.. I like the way a Coyote would look in a engine bay.. but packaging is tough.. The LS engine is an all around good motor that can build some serious HP & close to being the same size as a gen 1 SBC..

Right now I still have plans to make sure that what ever custom work I do to fit the LS engine.. also works for the Coyote.. on the x-member & engine mounts... If not I got a 67 FB that I will fit it in that I can cut it all up to proof fitment.. I got alot Mustang stuff going on.. Plus Mopar stuff that I will be working on in mid January.. I might be getting a 70 Cuda Prototype re-production shell to play with..





Skip- I have seen this thread... Thank you for the info..

Oddly enough, the same day I post this, over on the Maverick forum (yes it does exist) somebody posted pics of a Mav with a Coyote in it. The Mav engine bay is smaller than the Mustang. I'll just say that the Coyote certainly has presence.

Cris hope to see that coyote go in there! I just dont like seeing a chevrolet motor in a ford.

PS. if you end up getting rid of the coyote i might be interested in the dynatech headers :thumbsup:

With all the changes going on this Mustang.. I feel like we got something done this week on her! We got most of the main floor structure back in place with Firewall.. though we cut a part of it out.. Got the doors back on the car with the front Anvil 1.5 stretched fenders.. Got the LS with T56 staged between the frame rails.. got plenty of room now.. Looks like the 1st gen Camaro LS headers from Dynatech will work.. We moved the motor as far back as we could.. Some progress :_paranoid

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Shame to see the Ford 5.0 didn't work out. Now you're going to have to change the project name. ;)

Here are some updates on the Mustang... We got the transmission support going & some firewall work going .. The owner said to keep it simple.. doing my best to keep the project moving forward & trying not to get carried away with crazy fab work & one off machined pcs.. :D

I will post pics later of the firewall with the Wilwood pedal assembly..

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looking good.

Thanks Bryce! This is where we finished off today.. Their is a 1.5 x 1.5 x .120 square tubing built into the frame of the firewall that ties into the new rockers we built & the torque boxes.. I got some cool ideas for the down bars.. got to get some parts machined for that..

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Next week I fire up my new toy! Looking forward to the pcs we will be fabricating soon!

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Wow, the LS engine looks like it's going to have A LOT of space to play around! Even though it's not my favorite setup, well, that's the client's choice, and still it's a really good choice, considering the economy of an LS engine compared to a 5.0. Dunno, I like it, it's different, and we should wait for the result to be sure if it's for the best or the worst, though I don't think it's for the worst. Shiny side up guys!

Sorry it's a little late but I was thinking, if the customer wants the LS to look a little less out of place you can do the front mount distributor conversion along with a carb style intake and paint the engine Ford blue. That should really cause some double takes. Just check out RSX302's built on p-t.com Just a thought. Love your work Cris so I know the car is going to turn out great no matter what.