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INTMD8 07-31-2012 09:48 PM

The exhaust is finally completed and is suspended from it's hangers. Never thought I would have so much time into just an exhaust system.

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FETorino 07-31-2012 09:51 PM

As usual super sano. :thumbsup: Are those resonators behind the flex joints?

INTMD8 07-31-2012 10:12 PM

Thanks and yes, made by Vibrant. Thought it might quiet it down just a touch more.

I ran the same pypes mufflers on my Chevelle and thought they were perfect, so that's why I'm using them again. You can hear it when you're on the gas but at steady cruise it was nearly silent inside the car. (the turbos certainly help that).

But surprisingly quiet for a straight through muffler.

FETorino 07-31-2012 10:17 PM

I've been thinking of running resonators after the axle where you have your mufflers in addition to mufflers in front of the axle to tame the sound some.

Rick D 08-01-2012 04:25 AM

Jim you sure are building a top notch car there!! And you seem to be getting a lot done in the summer months, can't wait to see how much gets done over the winter! Where do you get the exhaust tubing from? I need to get some for my center pipe.

INTMD8 08-01-2012 09:40 AM

Thanks, this is where I buy most of the tubing-

http://www.globaltecheng.com/Product...?idCategory=90

:thumbsup:

fleet 08-01-2012 04:31 PM

That's your big boy system. :wow:

FETorino 08-16-2012 10:14 PM

OK Jim I know you have some updates. What have yo been up to ? :unibrow:

Rick D 08-17-2012 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 431013)
OK Jim I know you have some updates. What have yo been up to ? :unibrow:

He's out riding his bikes and four wheels :lol: I'm sure he will hit it hard this winter!

INTMD8 08-18-2012 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 431013)
OK Jim I know you have some updates. What have yo been up to ? :unibrow:

Rick called it! Hmmm,

Friday-

http://imageshack.us/a/img32/7200/diavel008.jpg

Today-

http://imageshack.us/a/img189/3681/xl600818.jpg

Maybe I'll work on it tomorrow? Probably nothing picture worthy. In related news Larry from Evod said the wheels are finished and tires are going on. Should have some pics next week once he gets back from the Concours D'Elegance. :) Um, I built the 9in center section with OEM take-out 3.50 gears
and a tru-trac. Waiting to hear back from the DSS on a driveshaft.

Oh, my near perfect front and rear glass that I screwed up with welding slag (don't trust poster board for this) is nearly done being resurfaced and polished. There's a couple grand out of the budget due to my mistake :(

Rick D 08-19-2012 05:48 AM

Jim a little late but!!

3M™ Welding and Spark Deflection Paper, 05916

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...4c5e3e468a.jpg

This stuff works!! Not cheap but cheaper then glass.

FETorino 08-19-2012 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 431013)
OK Jim I know you have some updates. What have yo been up to ? :unibrow:

Quote:

Originally Posted by INTMD8 (Post 431315)
Rick called it! Hmmm,

http://imageshack.us/a/img189/3681/xl600818.jpg

Oh, my near perfect front and rear glass that I screwed up with welding slag (don't trust poster board for this) is nearly done being resurfaced and polished. There's a couple grand out of the budget due to my mistake :(


The healthy living 101 brainwash has gotten to me :D I thought you were out on one of these.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...jinca/bike.jpg

The glass story hurts :( Parts like that for my car are a bitch to find I can't even imagine sourcing 57 Caddy glass. :rolleyes:

INTMD8 08-19-2012 11:11 AM

I did happen to find that 3m stuff as well, after it was too late. :(

Nice bike! Mine's just been collecting dust for the past few years, it may be time to pull it out of retirement.

FETorino 08-19-2012 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INTMD8 (Post 431355)
I did happen to find that 3m stuff as well, after it was too late. :(

Nice bike! Mine's just been collecting dust for the past few years, it may be time to pull it out of retirement.

Mine sat for 18mos collecting dust till the HL101 thread and my buddy shaming me got me to enter the local Over the Hump race. BTW Cold turkey competitive riding on a single speed after the layoff was no fun :(

68 stang 08-19-2012 09:09 PM

Glad to see the progress. BTW caddy glass is all flat except for the front windshied. When you buy a windshield ask for a 57 buick one. It is the same thing except they charge more for a caddy one.

INTMD8 08-19-2012 10:26 PM

Well, the side glass is flat, front and rear glass is curved and specific to the Eldorado Brougham and not interchangeable with any other model.

I can buy a new windshield but it's missing the 'bubble' at the top so it doesn't look as nice.

Or I found a used front/rear glass for $5k.

FETorino 08-19-2012 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INTMD8 (Post 431426)
Or I found a used front/rear glass for $5k.

Ouch :eek: :omg: :faint:

INTMD8 08-28-2012 05:27 PM

Wheels are finished! Having these built made a lot of things possible that otherwise wouldn't be. They have preserved the classic look of the car while allowing 19 and 20in Y speed rated (186mph) Michelin PS2's and also clearance for C6 Z06 brakes.

All of this should compliment the Roadster Shop chassis well.

Thanks to Larry and the crew at EVOD for the impressive illusion! :)


http://imageshack.us/a/img23/359/evod3.jpg
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Rick D 08-28-2012 05:47 PM

:wow: :wow: :wow: :wow:
:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

Holy wheels Jim, if I didn't know better I would bet money thoughs were hub caps!! You will fool a lot of people with those that's for sure. Way to go keeping the look and feel of the org wheels! :thumbsup:

Now you just need some BLACK paint on that car!!! :unibrow: :_paranoid

INTMD8 08-28-2012 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick D (Post 433037)

Now you just need some BLACK paint on that car!!! :unibrow: :_paranoid

Thanks, and I agree, when should I drop it off :D

Rick D 08-28-2012 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INTMD8 (Post 433044)
Thanks, and I agree, when should I drop it off :D

Oh I'm sure we could work something out, tell me again what kind of motors do you tune?? :unibrow: Nothing that 500hp and a 6sp couldn't fix :unibrow:

70rs 08-28-2012 10:08 PM

I just read this from the start. Wow! What a cool build. From the wheels up, very very cool.

INTMD8 08-29-2012 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick D (Post 433047)
Oh I'm sure we could work something out, tell me again what kind ofmotors do you tune?? :unibrow: Nothing that 500hp and a 6sp couldn't fix :unibrow:

We may have to talk :)


70rs- Thanks!

preston 08-29-2012 03:37 PM

Those wheels are gorgeous.

If a nice set of forgelines starts at $4k, can you tell us if those are less than double that price ? Just looking for a ballpark.

I absolutely love billet recreations of classic wheels.

Rick D 08-29-2012 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INTMD8 (Post 433191)
We may have to talk :)


70rs- Thanks!

:yes: :yes: Yup let me know! :cool:

fleet 08-29-2012 04:12 PM

Awesome, awesome effect those wheels create... :wow: :cool:

INTMD8 08-30-2012 07:57 PM

THx :yes:

and preston, no, more like triple plus some change but these are on the high end because of the diameters and simulated sidewall/painting/etc. Starting price on a simpler one-off would be much less.

FETorino 08-30-2012 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INTMD8 (Post 433526)
THx :yes:

and preston, no, more like triple plus some change but these are on the high end because of the diameters and simulated sidewall/painting/etc. Starting price on a simpler one-off would be much less.


This reminds me why I am going with production wheels cuz I'm low budget.:yes: Well lower budget.:_paranoid

As with everything else you've done so far,..... those wheels are perfect.:thumbsup:

INTMD8 09-01-2012 02:39 PM

Thanks! I would have considered a production wheel but thought anything else on this car would look out of place.

More shiny stuff! Before/after of new chrome and polished lenses. This is why this car will take me forever. Other than modifying just about everything on the car, the restoration work is a lot to do as well.

http://imageshack.us/a/img443/9691/e...hamchrome0.jpg
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FETorino 09-01-2012 03:21 PM

:wow: That looks great. Are all those dash pieces metal? On my Fairlane my dash was plastic chrome so I sent it to CV Vacuum platers. It came out sweet but CV is out of business. If any of it was plastic who did the resto?

fleet 09-01-2012 06:24 PM

The top Caddy models in '57-'58 had amazing dashes. '57 Olds 88's are also up there IMO.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...s/eb_1002s.jpg

68 stang 09-02-2012 12:57 PM

The chrome dash is all metal.IIRC.

Are you going to change the shift pattern indicator to the modern way?

INTMD8 09-02-2012 07:14 PM

Thx guys.

Yes, I'm sending them to Redline. They said they can make new lenses and I believe silk-screen the lettering?

I was considering a higher MPH speedo face as well but not sure if it could be calibrated to show the correct mileage.

CarlC 09-02-2012 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INTMD8 (Post 433968)
Thx guys.

Yes, I'm sending them to Redline. They said they can make new lenses and I believe silk-screen the lettering?

I was considering a higher MPH speedo face as well but not sure if it could be calibrated to show the correct mileage.

Try Shannon at Redline Gaugeworks. If anyone can do it, he can.

FETorino 09-03-2012 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INTMD8 (Post 433034)
Wheels are finished! Having these built made a lot of things possible that otherwise wouldn't be. They have preserved the classic look of the car while allowing 19 and 20in Y speed rated (186mph) Michelin PS2's and also clearance for C6 Z06 brakes.

All of this should compliment the Roadster Shop chassis well.

Thanks to Larry and the crew at EVOD for the impressive illusion! :)


http://imageshack.us/a/img23/359/evod3.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img441/2702/evod4.jpg

I've seen that wheel look before on a Caddy, looks pretty slick.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...ca/64_frt1.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...4_caddy_10.jpg

INTMD8 09-06-2012 06:24 PM

Yes that car is sweet! 22 inch EVOD's.

I received the chromed buttons today and finished assembling the gauges. They will be sent out to Redline gauge works tomorrow for conversion.

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68 stang 09-07-2012 12:53 AM

That is funny, your dash is different than my 57. I thought they were all the same. Are you going to keep the memory seats?

fleet 09-07-2012 05:37 AM

This one kinda stands out in a crowd. :D

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...Brougham_5.jpg

INTMD8 12-09-2012 06:42 PM

There was a bit of a miscommunication on the wheels and they ended up not fitting the car. Rather than try to modify them they are going to make a new set.

I've been working on the front seat, integrating seat belts. The belt regulator and top mount/bezel are from an Escalade 3rd row seat and mounted in a similar fashion (belt exiting top of seat). I measured the distance on the Escalade seat from the seat bottom to the bezel and made pieces to mount these at the same height on the Brougham seat. Feels like it will be comfortable and the angle on the belt is minimal. (should be fine as it exactly duplicates the geometry of the stock cadillac seat).

Seat frame will be strengthened. Where the rearmost seat mounting holes are in the floor I'm going to add a body mount there to the frame.

Now I need to take the seat back frame and modify the structure to go around the seat belt assemblies. Over this will be a shaped piece of high density foam that will take place of the original springs. I'll have the plastic seat belt bezels duplicated in aluminum and chrome plated.

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INTMD8 12-14-2012 07:35 PM

Ok, on to the rears. Much easier install here. Regulators mounted via an "L" bracket to the floor just ahead of the trunk hinge structure. Of course all mounting points will be reinforced. Pass-through hole cut in rear deck where bezel mounts were welded in. Put matching holes in the rear package tray and attach bezel. Looks nice I think! Not as clean as no seat belts at all but I like the idea of having them. The metal latch plates can be slid down between the seat cushions when not in use so the only thing you would really see when parked is the bezels and belts.

I'm having all the bezels made in aluminum which will then be chromed to match everything else in the interior. Front bezels will be made on a radius to match the seat curvature.

I picked up some mid 60's Cadillac belts and will have everything re-webbed jet black and put together with the vintage latches. Too bad I couldn't get the same pattern on the belt material as the seats, might blend in better.

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