Greg,

Being in the uk, good 69 shells are hard to come by. It's take it or leave it.

My other choice would of been to start with a perfectly good car and rip it apart, but as I am reusing so little of it, that works out expensive.

We did the math and this worked out cheaper than buying a dynacorn body too.

I think the roof will be the only panel that stays stock lol.

Amit

Oh and I have my heart set on an ls9 :)

I was wondering about that -- i.e., beginning with a Dynacorn or similar. It's just amazing how much work has to go into bringing these poor bodies back to life! Your builder seems to have a good handle on things!





If it was me - that's what I'd choose! Awesome motor! More than ample power. A lot more complicated - but probably worth it!

Love the direction your going and really respect you for doing this given all the additional "headaches" etc by doing this in the UK. Good for you! :cheers:

Bringing over a dynacorn body would of been expensive.

Then I would of also needed an original car for the title.

If you think the ls9 is complicated, you have seen nothing yet.

Every aspect of this car will be computer controlled via touch screens.
Planning active aerodynamics and suspension and also variable engine maps at the touch of a button.

This car WILL have a super pursuit mode :)

After going through tuning hell with Syborg - I strongly reccomend a crate with a factory harness. It will save you a ton of money and let's not forget the freaking headache's !!!

just my 2 cents

It will be a factory crate ls9 and loom

Sounds extra complicated. Then again, I am just happy I have working power windows. I look forward to seeing something new and different on a first gen Camaro. :thumbsup:

I have no fresh 'UK' trash talk to leave with you for now.

But I promise to try in the future...if all goes well.





:lol::lateral:

"Every aspect of this car will be computer controlled via touch screens.
Planning active aerodynamics and suspension and also variable engine maps at the touch of a button.

This car WILL have a super pursuit mode"


Now you have my attention. This should be epic.

Michael Knight has offered his help since he has expertise in your cars' type of technology.

It would be good to have some of his Euro star power on this board. :unibrow:


http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...el-knight-.jpg

I came here for the epicness and I get the Hoff. Double score!! :hail:

I liked you on Facebookasphere months ago. Looking good.

I have done an LS9 swap. It gets lots of Looks and Stares but its not very fun to put in like an LS1. Lots of extra stuff that goes with it.

Lol thanks guys..

yeah the LS9 is going to be a ball ache to get looking clean and pretty, but you cant argue with the tech.

Ideally I would convince NRE to lend me one of their motors lol.

Here is something to keep you going.

First round of detail body mod sketches from Victor

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...78612797_n.jpg

The final car will have pop out side gills, pop up rear spoiler, opening and closing hood cowl vents. If I can get it to work, the wipers will also be hidden under a pop up panel :)

The Idea is to close all vents to reduce drag when cursing, and then to open up when letting rip or breaking.

As soon as jason@theGMR is finished with the front uprights, we will start work on the custom chassis

Amit

Looks sweet, can't wait to see it all come together.

Greg

Vic, Those drawings are sick. I wish I could actually post up my stuff of the Z he did but its gonna stay under wraps. Cant wait to see the actual finished rendering of your car.

Stop being a woose and post it :p

A little more progress to report.

Victor has done a great job sketching out some of my ideas. We are heading in the right direction, but not there yet.

Some of these are a little wild, but gives a flavor of the attack car I want to build.

Middle left is my fav front end, with the centre grill slats, and middle right is my fave rear/side view.

Retropower have a lot of work ahead :)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...78612797_n.jpg

In the meant time Jason @ theGMR.com has completed the front uprights. We just need to get them shipped over to the UK so we can continue with the chassis build

The fabricated front uprights are based on the Corvette C6 uprights. Being made from steel, they are much stronger than stock and aftermarket parts made from ally. They dont suffer from deflection during hard cornering. Also they only weigh 1lb over the stock items.. but strength is way up

Jason starts with a load of machined parts. The hub face and upper and lower ball joint mounts
http://www.c4ppy.net/camaro/3.thereb...uprights01.jpg

All the parts that make up 1 pair of uprights
http://www.c4ppy.net/camaro/3.thereb...uprights02.jpg

One unique feature of theGMR uprights is they have matched the stock lower ball joint taper perfectly using a custom built reamer. They will not disclose the exact taper but we can assure it is not either of the standard 7 or 10 degree tapers.Their uprights matches the stock taper perfectly to ensure quality fitment with the stock GMR components.
http://www.c4ppy.net/camaro/3.thereb...uprights03.jpg

1.5" thick steel tooling is used to ensure there is no deflection of movement during the welding process
http://www.c4ppy.net/camaro/3.thereb...uprights04.jpg

The fully welded uprights
http://www.c4ppy.net/camaro/3.thereb...uprights05.jpg

As you can see, only 1.1lb heavier than stock but so much stronger
http://www.c4ppy.net/camaro/3.thereb...uprights06.jpg

The uprights can accept stock GM hubs, or the awesome GMR hubs. Guess what we are using on nighthawk
http://www.c4ppy.net/camaro/3.thereb...uprights07.jpg

The completed upright with the calipers and discs bolted on
http://www.c4ppy.net/camaro/3.thereb...uprights08.jpg
http://www.c4ppy.net/camaro/3.thereb...uprights09.jpg

Fully completed fabricated GMR upright and hub, with brakes installed
http://www.c4ppy.net/camaro/3.thereb...uprights10.jpg

Hopefully we will have more updates coming soon. In the meantime, like the facebook page to keep up with my musings and other great projects I find.

So who wants to see some updates?

Amit

I want updates if you decided to fork over the cash for a DCT like you were thinking about. :G-Dub:

Looked into it.. But was looking at $30k!!

Think I will stick to an auto:)

Are you seriously asking us that question?? :computer: :computer:

progress update :)

The roof skin is finally on and the exterior body restore is almost done.

http://www.c4ppy.net/camaro/3.TheReb...rebuild115.jpg

You can see the full step by step pics here with the commentary

The Body Rebuild

Now we can start on the custom work :) This is where it gets interesting. The rear end and front uprights are on their way from the US, and the boys are itching to start work on the custom chassis.

But thats not all folks!

unfortunately victor also had to pull out of the design team :( but the good news is, Mike Gillett our original designer is back with his pens blazing!

These are almost final sketches pending any changes needed due to actual build constraints. The rear lights are still work in progress

The front grill and hood vents will be open and closeable at the touch of a button.
http://www.c4ppy.net/camaro/0.concep...rontsketch.png

http://www.c4ppy.net/camaro/0.concep...ttopsketch.png

The rear diffuser is a double decker design. The top slot will be vented to the under side of the car, and will also be blown with hot gases from the exhaust. The feed slot and exhaust bypass will be motor controlled so I can shut them and reduce downforce when not needed. ie cruising. Most of the aero features on this car will be deactivateable to reduce drag under light duty. With an 800bhp V8 and current fuel prices, I need all the efficiency help I can get :)

http://www.c4ppy.net/camaro/0.concept/mg_rearsketch.png

You can see the full journey of how we got to these sketches here
Concept Drawings

Thats all folks until next time

Well considering the response I get on this forum, not sure why I bother lol

other threads, the OP posts a pic of a bolt he has polished and gets 20 replies telling him how great he is lol.

I post my life story and get nothing :D

The Pity train is frowned on Holmes and since its not the first time we've all heard it that doesn't help. Do yourself a favor, take in the consideration the anount of views and maybe that will make you feel better!


Btw Nice build. The sketch looks great!

I like the renderings alot, let's see yours guys start fabbing it in real life and then I think you will get a pretty good response :D

lol, was said tongue in cheek..

not looking for pity.. but thanks for the comments all the same.

Amit

Yeah thats what I was thinking. Boring stuff is now out of the way.

Custom chassis is up next

All told, if your build comes close to the renderings, it going to be one sick car! Good luck with the project, I will be looking and posting replays, LOL

Ill be posting pictures of a polished bolt on my thread see if it works. :poke:

Start the top notch fabbing Amit and this thread will take off. We love pics here. That's why I asked were you serious if we wanted to see updates. I said it in a joking manner though. Keep up the good work. Everytime I see your thread come to the top, I myself take a look and follow your build. :snapout: :snapout:

I haven't posted but I have been following your build. It's pretty amazing so keep up the good work! You should also be commended for finding a way to include the word "deactivateable" into your build thread.

The renderings look awesome, it will be interesting to see how we'll this translates into reality.
Shane:thumbsup:

I was looking for a box of tissue smiley but this will have to do :headscratch:

Ah much better post. :thumbsup:

I like the focus on Aero mods especially the active aero stuff. Who, what software or do you have a windtunnel and some clay models are you using to come up with the aero designs? I'm looking forward to what you guys come up with to enhance the areo grip.

I guess I missed out last I saw you were building it with a 600hp ls when did you bump it to 800?

:cheers:

That looks Sweet!

The aero stuff I am doing is a well known and documented improvements. I am not looking for every 10th of a sec round a track so don't really need a wind tunnel.

I do plan to make a scale model from a 1/12th kit I have which I want to blow smoke over, but its more for fun than anything scientific.

Smooth under bodies, diffusers, spoilers and rear wings are known to add downforce.. But down force also means increased drag.

All my active mods are aimed at reducing drag while at cruise speeds. These will be things like retracting the rear wing, shutting the vents around the car, and stalling the top deck of the diffuser.

The control software, I plan to right my self. I will probably use a combination of a smart phone and an audrino board. The g sensors in a smart phone will alow me to do things like automatically increase drag/downforce when the car is decelerating or going round a bend etc.

I will program in the obvious basics, the rest of it will just be a tweaking and learning experience.

Re the power, it was 600 Bhp when the project started with a tuned ls3, but now I want an LS9 and more power. To be honest, the drive train isn't finalised and will decide when I get to that point in the build.

Wow those renderings are absolutely amazing. Cant wait to see this one done.

Thanks.

Got a few more coming soon. Just finalising the design for the lights.

Very different to the above.

If you get anywhere close to those renderings you will have one of the best first gens out there, and that is saying something.

Lol..

That's the aim. Finance is an issue ATM. Need more sponsors

Those initial renderings look great! I love what you have planned with lighting and active aero. The advances in lighting have really made it possible to do some great looking mods that are truly functional. Good luck!