Exactly. Also, if you already have aftermarket brakes for a first Gen, you won't have to worry about changing them because this setup uses the factory spindle. Another key feature is that this frame still maintains the stock track width. So if you already have wheels, you don't have to worry about getting new ones to accomodate the wider than stock track width of the C4/C5 setup that requires high positive offset Vette style wheels.

If you're starting from scratch, then yes, the C4/C5 setup would probably be the way to go, but this at least gives a lot of guys a new option without dumping everything they already have. Personally, on top of all those factors I just gave, packaging is big concern. I need all the room I can get for downpipes - that required a front steer rack. This frame is perfect for where I'm at and what I'm doing with my project. :thumbsup:

Im not sure about the C5 but doesn't the C4 frame have some bump steer issues?What size wheel can you get with this sub 10"?

Are those true coil overs?
 

I can't tell from the picture, but are those true coil overs or is the bottom of the spring sitting in the a frame? Could a shock wave air shock be installed?

Those look like 100% koni coil overs to me. :unibrow:

It appears as though the shockwaves would fit, the only concern I would have is with the clearance around the swaybar endlinks.

Shoot now I'm deciding (in my master pre-purchase planning) if I want to go C5 front end, or with this conventional setup. :willy:

Yes. They're the same ones you get from Marquez or DSE.

Will the global west tubular cat 5 setup work on this

One question Scott.... Since I just picked up my new Wayne Due ALL C-5 suspended sub frame... why you didn't do the C-5 version over the DSE arms?

Damn that looking so nice!! :yes:

Good question. ALso interested in the answer to that!

Tyler,
Sent you a PM, and will follow up with an email.

Does the forward lower control arm mtg bracket come close to hitting the lower arm with full compression? That shock is approx 15" and at ride would sit at maybe 12-13"?


I have similar set up and just want to confirm as I do not have shocks or accurate lengths yet.


Thanks Brian

Brian -- Sorry - I have no clue - the clip is strapped to a wall in the shop and I haven't even looked at it since picking it up.

Too busy doing the freshening and 8 stack EFI manifold on the Nomad to mess with the Camaro...

I would have to clean the surface rust up and just clear the bare steel. It would give it a great look.

whose subframe is that on the first page.

That is one of the last built by Wayne Due, he is sadly no longer in business. If you like what you see give Art Morrison a call!

thanks awr....ill give hima call.

FYI, this thread is 2 years old. Wayne is no longer in business. Fortunately, there are lots of options these days for aftermarket subframes.

Project ''blackjack''
 

SUB FRAME VERY COOL I LIKE I LIKE ''ALOT'':thumbsup: :lateral:

Did Art Morrison ever tool up for a subframe that uses the DSE A arms, etc? My car just went out to be media blasted. There is no better time than the present....:unibrow:

Last I heard, No. But they are always willing to do custom work.

or this one. that uses aftermarket tubular arms.(of course we would like you to use ours)

Woops, sorry Blake, forgot to mention your frame! Not sure how that happened!

ST builds a frame for all us guys that already have the hardware!! :thumbsup:

Just uncrated my DSE subframe and all I can say is WOW:wow: The quality of this frame is unreal!!! :thumbsup: :cheers: