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zz430droptop67rs 01-06-2014 05:48 PM

Question, if 2 or more bidders are correct, which one wins? :headscratch:

camcojb 01-06-2014 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by zz430droptop67rs (Post 527145)
Question, if 2 or more bidders are correct, which one wins? :headscratch:

I would think it would go to whomever posted the correct guess first. :D

zz430droptop67rs 01-06-2014 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by camcojb (Post 527150)
I would think it would go to whomever posted the correct guess first. :D


Cool, I'm in :thumbsup:

Track Junky 01-06-2014 07:00 PM

I think the value is 250 but I'm in at 192

camcojb 01-06-2014 07:17 PM

Make sure you guys are putting your guesses in on V8TV's site!

V8TV 01-07-2014 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by camcojb (Post 527150)
I would think it would go to whomever posted the correct guess first. :D

We've got the rules posted on our site. 2 correct guesses, winner is first posted. Closest to actual bid without going over wins.

Just learned that the signed book will be by Charley and Stielow! Too cool.

GregWeld 01-07-2014 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by V8TV (Post 527223)
Just learned that the signed book will be by Charley and Stielow! Too cool.



Now that I know that -- can I withdraw my guess?

clill 01-08-2014 05:10 PM

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Mule is headed to Scottsdale. I didn't think I would get this depressed.

GregWeld 01-08-2014 05:38 PM

Personally -- I'm still in shock that you're selling this Icon....



That's not just any ol' '69 Camaro --- It's THE MULE!



But cars should be a "sail it or sell it" decision unless you want to be a museum -- let someone else use it if you're not going to.

Sieg 01-08-2014 05:41 PM

I feel for you Charlie. It's not just another dime a dozen Camaro. But I can understand the decision having Mayhem in barn.

Ketzer 01-08-2014 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 527764)
Personally -- I'm still in shock that you're selling this Icon....



That's not just any ol' '69 Camaro --- It's THE MULE!



But cars should be a "sail it or sell it" decision unless you want to be a museum -- let someone else use it if you're not going to.

I was curious about this too but skeered to ask. Can't be money or space. How do you get sick of having the Mule around to enjoy? Especially when you have the evolution of the Stielow brand sitting around it?


Jeff-

clill 01-08-2014 06:14 PM

I'm not sick of it but I'm not doing it any favors by just letting it sit. I could use the money and I turned 60 last year. At some point you start getting rid of stuff to simplify your life. I sat and asked myself if I was ever really going to use it anymore and said "no". I took Mayhem to Laguna Seca on the day after Thanksgiving and have not driven it since. Just not driving them as much as I used to. Me and my Wife did four Power Tours in the Mule plus a bunch of Hot August Nights Reno etc. Every part of that car is cool.

fleet 01-08-2014 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ketzer (Post 527773)
I was curious about this too but skeered to ask. Can't be money or space. How do you get sick of having the Mule around to enjoy? Especially when you have the evolution of the Stielow brand sitting around it?


Jeff-

Different strokers for different folk heroes...;)

hifi875 01-08-2014 06:25 PM

I just hope who ever buys it will enjoy it. It's THE standard for pro touring cars and what it's 10 yrs old.

Vegas69 01-08-2014 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by clill (Post 527775)
I'm not sick of it but I'm not doing it any favors by just letting it sit. I could use the money and I turned 60 last year. At some point you start getting rid of stuff to simplify your life. I sat and asked myself if I was ever really going to use it anymore and said "no". I took Mayhem to Laguna Seca on the day after Thanksgiving and have not driven it since. Just not driving them as much as I used to. Me and my Wife did four Power Tours in the Mule plus a bunch of Hot August Nights Reno etc. Every part of that car is cool.

I'm 36 and ready to do the same. Somebody will get a great car... Win/Win

Wissing72 01-08-2014 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by clill (Post 527775)
I'm not sick of it but I'm not doing it any favors by just letting it sit. I could use the money and I turned 60 last year. At some point you start getting rid of stuff to simplify your life. I sat and asked myself if I was ever really going to use it anymore and said "no". I took Mayhem to Laguna Seca on the day after Thanksgiving and have not driven it since. Just not driving them as much as I used to. Me and my Wife did four Power Tours in the Mule plus a bunch of Hot August Nights Reno etc. Every part of that car is cool.

Well put, and you got to use it and enjoy it for the time you had it. I cant wait to see it in person.

GregWeld 01-08-2014 08:21 PM

So at the risk of sounding kind of "snobby" or whatever you want to label it... and I don't want to come off that way AT ALL... anyone that knows Charley -- or knows me -- would tell you that we're not aloof or car snobs or anything of the kind.


But when you have several cars... and have had many -- and many of them the best of the best... then after awhile you look at your cars a little differently. We know we can buy more if we want to. We know this is not the last hurrah... it ain't the first goat rodeo and it likely won't be the last. So it's not like many people that have finally built the car of their dreams and spend years doing it -- or put their life and soul into it. And for most folks -- I can understand how they would look at THEIR car and never imagine selling it.

I wish now that I hadn't sold a couple of the 50 + cars I've owned... but really - 2 out of 50? That I really really wished I hadn't sold... and one of them is owned by my a buddy and he's trying to sell it back to me all the time... but I know why I sold it - and that hasn't changed (it's a super low original mile '67 Vette L79 Coupe -- driving it is ruining it).


So what I'm trying to say is that the REASONS for selling are different... and a lot of it has to do more with "use" than lack of love. But reality sets in and you look around and realize that you haven't driven something for a couple years!! And we all know that's not good for a car. When that happens it's time to pass it on to someone else.

We'd all love to be able to buy and keep every car we ever wanted -- but even for folks that are pretty well set -- there's limits. Limited time - limited space - and limited funds - and limited interest.

Watching this icon go across the block will be exciting for ALL of us to watch. And I'm 100% certain we all want to see it hit big numbers... because that lifts all of our spirits. It validates what we're doing. So best of luck to a guy I like to call my friend - with his iconic sale.

Che70velle 01-08-2014 08:39 PM

Wait a minute Greg. He's your friend? I thought you said you hated him? :catfight:

camcojb 01-08-2014 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Che70velle (Post 527828)
Wait a minute Greg. He's your friend? I thought you said you hated him? :catfight:

Depends on the day, and how much money Charley is costing him. :lol:

GregWeld 01-08-2014 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by camcojb (Post 527829)
Depends on the day, and how much money Charley is costing him. :lol:



^^^^^^^ What he said!!


Besides - when Charley sees it's me posting he just hits the delete button...so he'll never read the it.

fleet 01-09-2014 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 527821)
So at the risk of sounding kind of "snobby" or whatever you want to label it... and I don't want to come off that way AT ALL... anyone that knows Charley -- or knows me -- would tell you that we're not aloof or car snobs or anything of the kind.


But when you have several cars... and have had many -- and many of them the best of the best... then after awhile you look at your cars a little differently. We know we can buy more if we want to. We know this is not the last hurrah... it ain't the first goat rodeo and it likely won't be the last. So it's not like many people that have finally built the car of their dreams and spend years doing it -- or put their life and soul into it. And for most folks -- I can understand how they would look at THEIR car and never imagine selling it.

I wish now that I hadn't sold a couple of the 50 + cars I've owned... but really - 2 out of 50? That I really really wished I hadn't sold... and one of them is owned by my a buddy and he's trying to sell it back to me all the time... but I know why I sold it - and that hasn't changed (it's a super low original mile '67 Vette L79 Coupe -- driving it is ruining it).


So what I'm trying to say is that the REASONS for selling are different... and a lot of it has to do more with "use" than lack of love. But reality sets in and you look around and realize that you haven't driven something for a couple years!! And we all know that's not good for a car. When that happens it's time to pass it on to someone else.

We'd all love to be able to buy and keep every car we ever wanted -- but even for folks that are pretty well set -- there's limits. Limited time - limited space - and limited funds - and limited interest.

Watching this icon go across the block will be exciting for ALL of us to watch. And I'm 100% certain we all want to see it hit big numbers... because that lifts all of our spirits. It validates what we're doing. So best of luck to a guy I like to call my friend - with his iconic sale.

Well said Greg.

fleet 01-09-2014 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by clill (Post 527775)
I'm not sick of it but I'm not doing it any favors by just letting it sit. I could use the money and I turned 60 last year. At some point you start getting rid of stuff to simplify your life. I sat and asked myself if I was ever really going to use it anymore and said "no". I took Mayhem to Laguna Seca on the day after Thanksgiving and have not driven it since. Just not driving them as much as I used to. Me and my Wife did four Power Tours in the Mule plus a bunch of Hot August Nights Reno etc. Every part of that car is cool.

The positive that will come out of this Charlie is that you may be losing The Mule, but you have thousands of your bestest lat-g buddies (who btw you like so much), and we will be here for you in your time of loss.

:tiptoe:

RussMurco 01-09-2014 07:13 AM

I would imagine that owning a car like that, or the 1969 ZL1 Corvette, or any number of historic, rare, sought after cars makes you more of a temporary care-taker than anything else. There are classic cars I lust after but would never want to own simply because I would kill the value by driving them like they were meant to be driven.
A car like this should be driven and if Charlie can recognize he won't be giving it the exercise it deserves, well, that shows what a stand-up kind of guy he is.
Good luck, Charlie, I'll be glued to the TV!

V8TV 01-09-2014 01:31 PM

The Mule is a car that will probably go to an enthusiastic buyer who knows what it is and will be very happy to own it... I think that alone should erase any seller's remorse.

INTMD8 01-09-2014 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 527821)
but I know why I sold it - and that hasn't changed (it's a super low original mile '67 Vette L79 Coupe -- driving it is ruining it).

Good post but I just want to comment on this bit ^

I don't agree that driving it is ruining it. You could run it up to 100k miles and keep it in near perfect condition. Would it depreciate due to the mileage? Surely, but much less than say a new Benz.

Ketzer 01-09-2014 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by INTMD8 (Post 527970)
Good post but I just want to comment on this bit ^

I don't agree that driving it is ruining it. You could run it up to 100k miles and keep it in near perfect condition. Would it depreciate due to the mileage? Surely, but much less than say a new Benz.

... and who wouldn't jump at the chance to buy a car GW put 100k miles on?!? It would be nine times better than new knowing him and the stories that would go with it... priceless.

Jeff-

Stielow 01-10-2014 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by clill (Post 527746)
Mule is headed to Scottsdale. I didn't think I would get this depressed.

I'll miss this car. I sold it to Charley 10 years ago, but he has always allowed me to still play with it. So I knew it was in good hands and I could go see it anytime. Charley has taken great care of it and understood that it was a hot rod and sometimes cars break. Charley and I have grown into good friends over the years and I really appreciate that he has always taken great care of all my old cars. I hope the new owner understands the history of this car and takes care of it as well as Charley did.

I’m bummed I can't see it sold at Barrett Jackson but I just don’t have time to go. I’m too slammed building the new 2014i Z/28. I have been very fortunate to be able to keep building cars at work and at home and keep learning and growing. When I get a chance to drive an old project, like the Mule I always have a ton of memories. It was an odd feeling two years ago when I fired up Mayhem for the maiden voyage. It was like all the previous cars but different. I could access a file in my head and just build on that.

I wish Charley the best on selling the Mule. The other cars have the Mules DNA in them so the Mule will never be totally gone.

Mark

LS7 Z/28 01-10-2014 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 528101)
I’m too slammed building the new 2014i Z/28.

Mark

Not to take away from the intense sentiment of the conversation, but Mark where does the i in the 2014i Z28 come from. In progress?

I think that the new Z28 is one of the coolest things GM has decided to do in a long time, aside from continuing to improve on the Corvette platforms. I just really hope that you guys get the sales numbers that you need because I think that your target demographic is very limited. I would love to be able to buy one but I am just not able to. The Z/28 is basically what most of the guys on this site are striving to build, but in a modern version. It's an incredibly cool project and I hope you are very proud of it.


Charley as I said a while back good luck with the sale. I know that I don't know you personally but I appreciate what you do for the car community. Very few guys would allow someone to still be involved with a project that they sold to someone else, even if that someone was Mark Stielow. I hope you keep collecting because you have quite a cool group of cars and they are in good hands. Good luck.

Stielow 01-10-2014 11:08 AM

Sorry that is a GM term. 2014i is model year 2014 interim. Because it is a mid year introduction.

clill 01-10-2014 05:08 PM

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Realized I forgot these pics.

clill 01-10-2014 05:23 PM

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GM design studio when they were designing the current Camaro.

Sieg 01-10-2014 05:26 PM

With the Big Guns in that picture it is priceless!

glassman 01-10-2014 05:28 PM

I just love that license plate, just simple perfect statement.

Track Junky 01-10-2014 05:51 PM

Charlie, I don't doubt you will miss the car. If it doesn't go to someone we know we all will. But don't forget that you have a lot of pic's and memories. Memories cant be sold.

Vegas69 01-10-2014 06:10 PM

The car is timeless.... I still remember the TV feature. It was a major contributor to the sickness.

Che70velle 01-10-2014 06:34 PM

It should be made a stipulation of the sale, that whosoever purchases this vehicle must become a member here (if not already one), and update regularly.
:thumbsup:

WILWAXU 01-12-2014 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 526085)
John -- Just follow Lillard around with a wheelbarrow full of money... you'll have a great time!

He's already got a mob around him :D

SSLance 01-13-2014 10:57 AM

So Tom Jensen is covering Barrett Jackson for Sports Fox this week. I've been following him on twitter

tom jensen ‏@tomjensen100 30m
Here's a gallery of Corvettes I shot #barrettjackson. Link here: http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/phot...ttsdale-011314

Pretty certain that's El Mule in the background of this picture...no?

http://msn.foxsports.com/content/fsd...lery.large.jpg

WSSix 01-13-2014 03:44 PM

Looks like it is to me as well.

camcojb 01-13-2014 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SSLance (Post 528777)

Pretty certain that's El Mule in the background of this picture...no?

http://msn.foxsports.com/content/fsd...lery.large.jpg

Definitely. Louvered hood makes it a lock. :D


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