Don't worry that happens with age at least to people! You'll have a swinging new rear in no time!!

I asked Scott to play with the rear hubs, would be nice to get matching wheel bolt patterns and lug nuts. He thinks he can open up the rear knuckle to fit a Corvette rear hub. Bolt pattern is the same. The pics show one one of my front hubs, which are dimensionally the same as the rear Vette hub.

We're measuring to be sure the rear Camaro Brembo brakes will fit. If not, pretty sure ZO6 brakes will. Or Baers... since I have them in the front.

The rusty hub is the Camaro rear.

The stick out is the same from Camaro to corvette.

Now the only piece of the puzzle is axle shafts and their splines.

1 5/8" IIRC...

Thanks Ron, do you know if they share the same spline size for the axle shaft engagement?

I can not comment on that JJ. I've only played with the C6 hubs.

I bet Matt Jones at AME would know.

Thanks for the response. I am not sure it's fair for me to call him. I am not buying their product.

We'll find out when the rear hubs come in. May have to do custom axle shafts regardless.

It's been a bad day for the Camaro... first the rear end falls out, then the entire engine, trans and sub frame drops out.

Fortunately, Scott made a cart to haul around the new one... and it's all going in soon.

Seems like most of the ed-construction is done. We have a new column, slave cyl with bracket, new intermediate steering shaft, new steering ujoints and hydro booster to go on the firewall. New exhaust, new trans, new engine, new front subframe, new rear suspension...

Should be fun. It is sad seeing it completely apart. I am glad I am not doing it though. Hard to take down a car that my youngest daughter loves and said "I love little cars with big horsepower". She turns 9 on Sunday.

I've been thinking about this project and ordering parts for about 3 months now.

Looks like the advice I got on the stainless works headers was dead on. Can't wait to see these with the stainless v-bands welded on.

Looking good John, Scott.

That looks great .... nice choice of headers too!

Your daughter will love to drive this car when she gets older :idea:

She just may get to. She'd very competitive, so might be a racer in my future.

They like watching me race my bike, so we're talking about getting this on the track.

1 step forward, 12 back
 

I visited KC for work, so decided to take Scott out for dinner. We ate half a cow... seriously, the steak house we went to served me the "Tomahawk Chop" - 3 lbs of bone in deliciousness.

I also got to visit with my car. Scott's a genius, he made the best handling car, ever - The Hover Car - It uses repulsor technology.

Actually, he has it on a cart to move around. Working in the "business" you have to hate customers like me. He spent a lot of time to disassemble the car with the nose on. When I visited, I focused on the ugliness that is the firewall... and had a might as well moment. Yep, the nose is coming off, so Scott can shave the firewall completely. We're moving the wiper motor to the driver's fender and have all new slave and master cyl brackets. Of course, the new motor is an LS, so the big honking coil goes away too.

During dinner, after I visited, Scott let the cat out of the bag. The paint is hiding lots of ugliness. I never really looked at it, knew it was a plastic restoration, but 1/2" of Bondo is too much for me. Same with rusted trunk sections. Yep, another might as well moment - Scott is taking it all the way down to the shell and it's off to media blasting on Tuesday via Scott's rotisserie. When it gets back, Scott has two 1/4 panels and two trunk drop offs. He's re-working the rusty frame rails for the reworked IRS cradle, so that's a non-issue.

Oh and the stainless works headers have the 02 bung on the wrong side. These headers were for the Wayne Due chassis, which is not made anymore (that I know of), so they get a pass... Scott will TIG bungs on the other side and we'll cap these.

Wow look at all the money you'll save on tires, and you'll never kick up stones and chip the paint!
When I saw you were there I thought, not only does he do awesome fab work but at lightning speed too!

Jesus!! Don't wear him out before I get to him. :twak: :twak:

Coming along nicely! Half inch of BONDO? ..... that'll buff out :sarcasm_smiley:

Silly question .... what difference which side the O2 sensors is on? I've never messed with them YET, thinking of putting them on my headers for sensors.

Man I wished I had a garage as nice as Scott's, I'd settle for half and a nice heater. We've had snow since Thursday and it won't be above freezing until Tuesday!!!!

Can't fit an O2 sensor in on that side, we think...

Put a lightening hole there and you could probably get the o2 sensor in there.

Racked!
 

And it's on the rotisserie - wondering what we'll find under the mud, the blood and my tears.

(Hate this part, a pretty car becomes worthless when undressed, had to reference Johnny Cash)

So, the cadaver went off to find out what's hanging out under that red paint on Tuesday... was supposed to be done that day, but Scott's still waiting...

While that's off, he's been playing with some of the firewall mods. We bought a DSE panel and a wiper motor to move under the driver's fender. He also bought more body pucks to mount the rear IRS.

For some reason, the slave cylinder kit didn't line up, so Scott added a double capture bracket to allow some shifting. He also made a mount for the hydro boost that's going in, so we can stop reliably.

Did it look in tough shape ?

No, but we found more than a 1/2" of bondo in the quarters. I have to do it right.

That's for sure, would suck to have it come out later. Oh! Those are some nice looking parts.

The Media blaster has always jumped right on thing's for me. He had a shop full of project's. It's super cold here that maybe a factor. Now it's raining and suppose to keep raining for the next 4 or 5 days. Just want to get the Camaro back home & :gitrdun:

Same, just want it back, to see what else it needs.

And he's got it back and back on it.

Needs both quarters, trunk drop offs and a brake light panel. There was a bit of small rust and some really bad repairs.

He also installed the DSE firewall panel and the DSE wiper motor over under the driver's side fender. The firewall should get cleaner, with random holes getting filled in, etc.

I will get inside the car and strip out all the old crappy wiring ( just wanted to get back on the car after a week & half layoff of media blasting & eatin turkey). Get some panels fabricated to fill the hole's where the old owner run all the wiring from. I think every single wire had it's own hole. There's like 52 holes to cover or weld shut. Raingear doesn't make a kit for the 2nd gens. So we are using a DSE wiper kit supplied by B&B Classic's. Thank's Billy.

The DSE kit looks like a nice set up. I wish I had got to put the wiper motor under the fender but it never happened. It cleans the firewall up so nice.

So, I recived a few PMs about the cage.

It's a stainless tiger cage done by Ride Tech. All 304 stainless, all tig welded. Some say they can do better, I love their products and engineering that goes into them. No paint needed.

Also, the reason we blasted: I knew there was shoddy body work under there. It was a 10' car. What is showing in bare metal is actually dangerous. New quarters, new trunk drop offs and a new rear valence all needed... the rear frame rails were junk too. Scott has his work cut out for him (pun intended) and will rebuild the rear rails to mount the IRS.

I love it when a plan comes together! (bonus points for the reference cite)...

Great build. You're not wasting any time.

I don't know what you were planning for a driveshaft, but give Frank a call at The Driveshaft Shop

He has adapters that will convert the 3-prong 5th Gen Camaro pinion yoke and convert it over to a 108mm CV joint.

He also just came out with some CV joint slip yokes for various transmissions. Here is one that I got for my f-body T56:

http://www.pro-touring.com/~andrewb/cougar/103.jpg

http://www.pro-touring.com/~andrewb/cougar/102.jpg

They can also build you a double CV driveshaft (in either carbon or aluminum) which will completely eliminate all concerns regarding driveline angles. I've been running a single CV shaft in my GTO for a few years now and plan on doing a double CV shaft in my 1967 Cougar build.

Frank can also set you up with drive axles for the rear end.

Andrew

Thanks, but I will cut down a 5th Gen Camaro drive-shaft. You know with IRS, it doesn't really move that much, right?

Scott got busy on the firewall shave, with the wiper motor relocation. I think it will look very nice with a new Baer Master Cyl on that booster.

LOL, I get to pay Scott to sit down and watch a DVD.

Of course, it's for the DSE mini tubs. They go in today.

Are you going body color on the engine bay or are you going to use another color?

Firewall will be body color. Inner fenders will be carbon fiber. Radiator support will be matte black, with a lot of aluminum. I have aluminum block off panels, too. They will be body color.

Scott's back at it, after a sandblasted turkey induced coma. :)

DSE mini tubs are in.

I *should* be able to fit a GTO rear seat and 2 smaller kids back there...

Ride Tech says the Tiger Cage will work with the tubs. If not, Scott says he can make em fit.

This build is moving right along!

Mini tubs are the way to go :superhack: :superhack:

Are the floors in good shape, they look solid. Just need the quarters replaced? How are the wheelhouses?

Moving along nicely ... waiting on the IRS install pixs!

Floors are solid and from what I can tell, original to the car. It's amazing for a New England car. Quarters could be patched, but it's better (IMHO) to go with new complete ones. Trunk drop offs and the rear tail light valence are junk. Scott says everything else is good to go.