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MetalWorksClassics 03-01-2016 04:28 PM

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Adding bump stops.

MetalWorksClassics 03-04-2016 08:58 AM

Mock up
 
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Mocking up more of the sheet metal for fit as the car was apart when it arrived at the shop.

Nine Ball 03-05-2016 04:11 AM

Great build, guys. I like the engine choice, too.

Tony

DOOM 03-05-2016 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Nine Ball (Post 631680)
Great build, guys. I like the engine choice, too.

Tony

What he said!!!!

MetalWorksClassics 03-07-2016 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nine Ball (Post 631680)
Great build, guys. I like the engine choice, too.

Tony

Thanks guys...yeah we really like working with Butler engines...we put one in a 78 TA that really turned out great...we have another one in inventory for a 65 GTO build as well.

Here is a link to the 78 TA... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOjPShkhnrs

LanceL 03-07-2016 06:32 PM

Three questions for you guys? What body mounts do you like to use? On the floor install did you cut the old floor using the new piece as a template or how do you guys like to do it? And it looks like continuous welds for the connectors? Do you not have to skip around and worry about warpage of the metal doing those? Thanks for the help and answers. We all appreciate the pics and knowledge.

MetalWorksClassics 03-08-2016 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LanceL (Post 631909)
Three questions for you guys? What body mounts do you like to use? On the floor install did you cut the old floor using the new piece as a template or how do you guys like to do it? And it looks like continuous welds for the connectors? Do you not have to skip around and worry about warpage of the metal doing those? Thanks for the help and answers. We all appreciate the pics and knowledge.

Sorry we can't help on the body mounts as they came with the project, we did not order them.
On the floors we cut the bellys out, then sat the new pan in place and traced around it with a marker, then cut the rest of the old pan out...this allowed us to butt weld the new pans in place.
I agree the frame connector welds looks continuous, but we actual did skip around only doing around 5 spots at a time.

Thanks for the questions...take care.

LanceL 03-08-2016 05:10 PM

Thanks a lot for the answers. Your car is bad ass. Following for sure.

Centerforce 03-08-2016 06:04 PM

Aw we wanted to see a good clutch shot before you put it together! :D

Did you end up going with a DYAD?

MetalWorksClassics 03-09-2016 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Centerforce (Post 631997)
Aw we wanted to see a good clutch shot before you put it together! :D

Did you end up going with a DYAD?

Hey guys...YES we do plan to run a DYAD, but the motor and trans are only at the mock up stage...I will definitely get some good clutch pics of the final install...we've been having great luck with the DYAD sysetem with these high HP engines.

Centerforce 03-10-2016 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MetalWorksClassics (Post 632080)
Hey guys...YES we do plan to run a DYAD, but the motor and trans are only at the mock up stage...I will definitely get some good clutch pics of the final install...we've been having great luck with the DYAD sysetem with these high HP engines.

We're glad to hear that they've worked well for you! Excited to see the install, and whats in store for the rest of the car!

MetalWorksClassics 03-16-2016 04:43 PM

Smoothing out the rear tail pan
 
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Work continues to smooth out the back of the Firebird's body.

MetalWorksClassics 03-22-2016 02:04 PM

Front fender metal work
 
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Metal working the front fenders.

MetalWorksClassics 03-30-2016 02:28 PM

Body work begins
 
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Time to start body working this old bird...

MetalWorksClassics 04-01-2016 11:21 AM

Rendering
 
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Figured I should post the rendering of "Black Widow" before the build is over.

pro66tour 04-01-2016 11:41 AM

Partial to white w/ black centers...soooo....I LOVE IT! Classic look...

DOOM 04-02-2016 06:42 AM

Very nice!!! Well done!!!

MetalWorksClassics 04-05-2016 02:51 PM

Rendering
 
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Originally Posted by DOOM (Post 634105)
Very nice!!! Well done!!!

Thanks guys!!

waynieZ 04-07-2016 05:33 AM

It looks great, nice work. I like the rendering.

MetalWorksClassics 04-08-2016 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 634548)
It looks great, nice work. I like the rendering.

Thanks a lot guys...

MetalWorksClassics 04-08-2016 04:19 PM

Body work
 
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Here we are doing more body work...getting most of the body in primer.

MetalWorksClassics 04-14-2016 04:45 PM

Guide coat
 
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Shot on some guide coat...and start sanding again.

MetalWorksClassics 04-15-2016 03:32 PM

Rear bumper mock up
 
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Looks like we have some serious work ahead of us to get the rear bumper to fit snug to the body.

MetalWorksClassics 04-28-2016 02:24 PM

Body sanding
 
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Tim putting in long hours of body working the Firebird...sanding and primer.

MetalWorksClassics 05-03-2016 10:51 AM

Filling in the front turn signals
 
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Tom filled in the front turn signal holes.

MetalWorksClassics 05-05-2016 04:45 PM

FESLER flush mounted glass
 
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Mocked up the FESLER flush mounted windshield and rear window...had to fine tune the openings for consistent gaps.

MetalWorksClassics 05-06-2016 04:12 PM

Door gaps
 
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Adjusting and metal working the doors to tighten up the gaps.

GregWeld 05-06-2016 05:23 PM

Don't you know there's a rule about wearing Tillman TIG gloves while MIG welding!?!?!

LOL


Looks better and better all the time!


If people only realized how many hours it takes to make all these old piles of crap look perfect....

87SS 05-06-2016 06:09 PM

Wow!
 
I just went through the whole thread......NICE WORK! Makes me want to learn welding.

:flag2:

MetalWorksClassics 05-09-2016 03:46 PM

Thanks guys...yeah, these old rigs do not build themselves...takes a lot of hours to make them nice.



Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 637084)
Don't you know there's a rule about wearing Tillman TIG gloves while MIG welding!?!?!

LOL


Looks better and better all the time!


If people only realized how many hours it takes to make all these old piles of crap look perfect....


Zoomin 05-09-2016 07:49 PM

What are the wheel/tires sizes going to be? Are you going to use Ride Tech's Tru Turn up front?

Nice work!

MetalWorksClassics 05-11-2016 03:07 PM

The tires are 275/35ZR18 and 315/30ZR18...wheels are 18".




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Originally Posted by Zoomin (Post 637260)
What are the wheel/tires sizes going to be? Are you going to use Ride Tech's Tru Turn up front?

Nice work!


Zoomin 05-11-2016 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MetalWorksClassics (Post 637412)
The tires are 275/35ZR18 and 315/30ZR18...wheels are 18".

I guess 9's and 12's? Tru Turn?

MetalWorksClassics 05-13-2016 09:28 AM

Wheels are 10" and 11"...not sure on the Tru Turn...the front "clip" was supplied by our customer so I'm not exactly sure what all is included in the set-up and the clip in tucked away currently as the body in on a rotisserie in the body shop...but I'll try and let you know when we pull it back out.


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Originally Posted by Zoomin (Post 637417)
I guess 9's and 12's? Tru Turn?


MetalWorksClassics 05-18-2016 04:42 PM

Front sheet metal gasp
 
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Tightening things up.

Chicken Louie 05-19-2016 06:54 AM

Looking Good
 
Love the work you are putting into this bird!!

Juicypop 05-19-2016 08:21 AM

Great job with the build looks awesome!

EBMC 05-20-2016 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MetalWorksClassics (Post 630039)
Our customer wanted a custom gas door, so we fab'd up a mounting plate.

Nice work guys!! Thanks for using KD filler. Awesome build

preston 05-20-2016 01:49 PM

in that a photo of you using a spot welder to shrink the metal ?
or is something else going on there ?

If you are shrinking, do you use a wet rag or what after you zap ? Curious about your technique there.

MetalWorksClassics 05-27-2016 09:06 AM

Yes, you are correct...we were using the spot welder to shrink the metal...we would cool the metal with compressed air at each hit.


Quote:

Originally Posted by preston (Post 637858)
in that a photo of you using a spot welder to shrink the metal ?
or is something else going on there ?

If you are shrinking, do you use a wet rag or what after you zap ? Curious about your technique there.



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